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technosaurus


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PostPosted: Fri 25 Sep 2009, 01:40    Post subject:  

for an easy/fun thing to test - the games on the Puppy Web Desktop need to be categorized

More here:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=34921

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PostPosted: Fri 25 Sep 2009, 02:16    Post subject:  

Bonjour à tous,
Bert wrote:
ttuuxxx wrote:
esmourguit wrote:
What about localizing scripts like xorgwizard, chooselocale etc.?


That could be a good job for you Smile
If you started with French, maybe others could follow your lead after and use your examples.
ttuuxxx



What's needed, yes I said it before, is a standardized, unified, teamwork-enabling localization system.



Thank you Bert for your support.
I hope that other translators will want to join to form a cohesive team to work with coders (whether this cooperation is of course desired).
Cordialement Wink

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PostPosted: Fri 25 Sep 2009, 02:52    Post subject:  


Our growing list of support (please add yourself) http://puppylinux.org/wikka/Puppy44Team

Can one of our team add the phase 1 objectives here:
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/Puppy44

thank you Smile

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PostPosted: Fri 25 Sep 2009, 03:21    Post subject:  

Lobster wrote:

Our growing list of support (please add yourself) http://puppylinux.org/wikka/Puppy44Team

Can one of our team add the phase 1 objectives here:
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/Puppy44

thank you Smile


Hi lobster, umm your displaying peoples emails, ummmmm not a good idea with spam, most spam bots look for things like that. the best way is just make a jpg image in mtpaint/gimp and do all the text on the image and save it as jpg, that way bots can't read what images say.
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PostPosted: Fri 25 Sep 2009, 04:01    Post subject:  

Thanks Ttuuxxx Smile
Just added this - if someone wants to add graphic protection Smile
for their email please do
mine can stay in a convenient format
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Using HTML Entities

One trick is to replace the "@" symbol with the html character entity for it. Here are two email addresses: can you tell the difference?

* jqpublic@example.com
* jqpublic@example.com

Most people cannot, without looking at the source code. Here's what they really look like:


jqpublic@example.com
jqpublic@example.com

The "@" is another way of writing the "at" character - the "at" in an email address. This may fool some spambots, however, it is very easy for a spambot to "learn" this trick, so use it sparingly.

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PostPosted: Fri 25 Sep 2009, 04:20    Post subject:  

Quote:
* jqpublic@example.com
* jqpublic@example.com

where at least one of the '@'s is probably & # 6 4 ; (without the spaces)
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PostPosted: Fri 25 Sep 2009, 04:35    Post subject:  

Hi technosaurus,
You seem to have got off to a really good start here. Thanks and congratulations.

Perhaps I have misunderstood but you say
Quote:
additionally load sfs files from same dir as the pupXXX


My personal opinion, which may be shared by others, is that this isn't necessarily the best approach.

If one has several frugal installs in the same partition but under separate psubdirectories then at the moment I can just add, say, one openoffice.sfs to /mnt/home and all my frugals can pick it up. If I don't want any puppy to pick it up then Bootmanager gives me flexibility to change this.

But if the sfs file needs to be in the psubdirectory (where the pupXXX file resides) then would I not need one openoffice.sfs for each puppy?

Or does your wording
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additionally
mean it would be an extra feature and it would still work if the sfs file where in /mnt/home??

If I have misunderstood could you kindly put me right.

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PostPosted: Fri 25 Sep 2009, 13:52    Post subject:  

Memtest86+ 4.00 is out.
Now it's a good time to include the latest release in Puppy 4.3.1 / 4.4 CE Smile
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PostPosted: Fri 25 Sep 2009, 14:28    Post subject:  

how's this:
boot manager (or user) sets SFSHOME as the default search location
boot parameter
LOADSFS=none #skips the sfs search all together
or
LOADSFS=all #(loads all sfs in $SFSHOME)
or
LOADSFS=zdrv,browser,openoffice,puppypack,devx,docx,nls #only loads list from $SFSHOME unless full path is provided

#set up some defaults
if $SFSHOME = ""
SFSHOME=$PHOME

The init script just spends way too much time looking around for this stuff. If users just keep pressing enter for defaults, those locations should be checked first and once found it should stop searching. You've heard the joke about finding something in the last place you looked... right now Puppy still keeps sniffing around to find another set of keys.

I don't have the luxury of being able to play around with init till early next week because of all the dependencies I have compiled while in pfix=ram mode - just bouncing some ideas around.

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PostPosted: Fri 25 Sep 2009, 17:02    Post subject: OT: Unicode & JavaScript email addresses  

To view these two examples of John's email address copy and paste the following code into an HTML document (remove space before semicolon in unicode).

Code:
John's email address in JavaScript:
<script language="JavaScript">
<!-- Begin
document.write('<a href=\"mailto:john'+ '@' + 'yahoo.com\">');
document.write('john'+ '@' +'yahoo.com</a>');
// End -->
</script>

John's email address in unicode:
&#106 ;&#111 ;&#104 ;&#110 ;&#64 ;&#121 ;&#97 ;&#104 ;&#111 ;&#111 ;.&#99 ;&#111 ;&#109 ;


Visit: http://www.alanwood.net/unicode/basic_latin.html for more unicode characters. Use the decimal codes on this page to display the character of your choice in an HTML document by doing the following: Place an ampersand, then a pound sign ahead of the decimal number and then follow with a semicolon to make your choice of character appear in an HTML document. Do not put spaces between the unicode characters.

NOTE: Placing JavaScript in the body of a XHTML document is not standards compliant.

PS: I said it was OT.

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PostPosted: Fri 25 Sep 2009, 17:21    Post subject:  

Hi technosaurus,
Quote:
how's this:
boot manager (or user) sets SFSHOME as the default search location....

Assuming this is a reply to mine above then yes, if I understand it correctly, that seems to offer flexibilty as well as satisfying the prime requirements of speeding up the boot.

I appreciate your lateral thinking on this. Should make a CE of note.

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PostPosted: Fri 25 Sep 2009, 18:38    Post subject:  

Who was it that requested updated openssl? Puppy 4.3 has the latest stable Major.Minor version - did you need it configured differently or were you refering to the 0.9.8k/1.0-beta4/snapshot?

Why I ask...The 1.0 snapshot compiles a bit larger - what is the benefit?

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PostPosted: Fri 25 Sep 2009, 19:55    Post subject:  

I just uploaded openssl, fbreader, viewnior, libtheora, vim, tar... synced the folders with some newer builds of the others

still here:
http://puppylinux.asia/members/T/444/

has anyone tested gnumeric? it needs gtk, atk, pango, cairo, goffice
There doesn't seem to be a whole lot of interest in it. Is it worth its weight to be a default app?

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PostPosted: Fri 25 Sep 2009, 20:21    Post subject:  

technosaurus,

Keep gnumeric Smile It was the first puppy app I ever used. We certainly need a spreadsheet.

Are you offering an alternative?

I'll download your latest and give it a run.

(a little later...)

Hmmmm,

It is rather large. And it didn't work..
Code:
# gnumeric-1.9.13
gnumeric-1.9.13: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libspreadsheet-1.9.13.so: undefined symbol: gtk_orientable_get_type


The old one in 4.3 works ok.

On a sidenote: Last year when I was doing my taxes my accountant couldn't open an Excell file created in Excell. Gnumeric opened it no problem, edited the file, saved back as an Excell format and it opened in Excell. He was impressed.

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PostPosted: Fri 25 Sep 2009, 20:23    Post subject:  

Hi technosaurus,

I checked http://puppylinux.asia/members/T/444/ and notice many office applications, but few connection tools or network applications.

I would like to request the inclusion of tightVNC 1.3.10 to the pet list please.

Also need a FTP program, but don´t know if Filezilla is too big to be included then I won´t request its inclusion. You should consider a valid option for FTP.

Thank you.

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