Puppies 4.31.1 Puppy linux 4.30 Plus fixes and FireFox 3.5.3

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vg1 · #106 Post by **vg1** » Mon 21 Sep 2009, 07:41

Schism,

until the CPU freq.tool is fixed paste this in your /etc/rc.d/rc.local file:

modprobe powernow-k8
modprobe cpufreq_ondemand
echo ondemand > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor
#cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/stats/time_in_state

the last line is so you can verify that it works. Paste it in the console [without #] and check that it works correctly. It doesn't need to be in rc.local, it's there for convenience in case you forget it so you can always copy it back.

vg

#107 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Mon 21 Sep 2009, 14:13

panzerpuppy wrote:Puppies 4.3.1 uses a *very old* version of Xorg (v7.0 from 2005) (LOL)

2005 wasn't all that long ago, most computers that use puppy are from that era, and another fact that older X-Server has 6MB extra modules thats allows newer PC like mine do circles around the latest one in series 4, If I knew which modules were added to 2.14R I might take a stab compiling them for the current model. Never the less my pc is less than 2yrs old and probably has more memory in the graphic card than most users of puppy have in there whole pc, and that retro X-server does do a better job for my pc, a great noticeable increase of speed with FF3.5, but anyways since people would rather complain and laugh, I rebuilt 4.31.1 with the original slower/smaller current X-server so now you have choice and can't complain.
Now I'm going back to 2.20 Retro Puppy
enjoy guys
Page 1 -main version is the original X-server version
ttuuxxx

panzerpuppy · #108 Post by **panzerpuppy** » Mon 21 Sep 2009, 14:49

2005 was not that long ago, but the old server from 2005 performs worse with OLD cards from 2002-2003

For example,the old Xorg doesn't support 3DNow! / SSE optimizations,has only a fraction of the OpenGL features for these OLD cards and has broken page flipping.

ttuuxxx,are you using an NVIDIA videocard?
Because I don't experience slow scrolling in Firefox with Barry's original 4.3 release (using Firefox 3.7alpha)

DaveS · #109 Post by **DaveS** » Mon 21 Sep 2009, 14:54

Can anyone help me with my mouse config question from a few posts back, ie., is there a configuration file for the mouse like Xorg.config for when one is using Xvesa?

#110 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Mon 21 Sep 2009, 15:17

panzerpuppy wrote:2005 was not that long ago, but the old server from 2005 performs worse with OLD cards from 2002-2003

For example,the old Xorg doesn't support 3DNow! / SSE optimizations,has only a fraction of the OpenGL features for these OLD cards and has broken page flipping.

ttuuxxx,are you using an NVIDIA videocard?
Because I don't experience slow scrolling in Firefox with Barry's original 4.3 release (using Firefox 3.7alpha)

Yes I'm using a NVIDIA video card about 1yr old.
ttuuxxx

#111 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Mon 21 Sep 2009, 15:18

DaveS wrote:Can anyone help me with my mouse config question from a few posts back, ie., is there a configuration file for the mouse like Xorg.config for when one is using Xvesa?

Maybe try the newer one I just posted at page 1, since X-server should be 100% the sames as Barry's 4.30 release.
ttuuxxx

DaveS · #112 Post by **DaveS** » Mon 21 Sep 2009, 15:28

Interesting point: I re-mastered and now the zpblahblah.sfs file does not seem to be needed. Previously I needed it for my network driver. Presumably, re-mastering picks up the driver(s)
Xvesa gives a very pretty interface, fonts especially being nice, and it re-draws very fast, but this touchpad will drive me nuts. Will try the later version.

wuwei · #113 Post by **wuwei** » Tue 22 Sep 2009, 12:09

Hi ttuuxxx, appreciate your great work, but this drives me crazy on 4.3.1.1:

The internet connection is not saved for the next boot. Is there a file where one can manually do just that?

My set up:
Puppy 4.3.1.1 on Full HDD
JWM (and ICEwm)
Internet by Network (DSL; DHCP)

This problem does not exist in 421 Full HDD, 421 Frugal HDD and Muppy 008.4 Frugal HDD.

Any ideas?

Thanx

mikeb · #114 Post by **mikeb** » Tue 22 Sep 2009, 12:36

2005 was not that long ago, but the old server from 2005 performs worse with OLD cards from 2002-2003 Smile

For example,the old Xorg doesn't support 3DNow! / SSE optimizations,has only a fraction of the OpenGL features for these OLD cards and has broken page flipping.

hmm page flipping works fine here and definately get faster performance from xorg 7.0.

More useful and supportive posts eh

mike

panzerpuppy · #115 Post by **panzerpuppy** » Tue 22 Sep 2009, 13:18

mikeb wrote: hmm page flipping works fine here and definately get faster performance from xorg 7.0.

More useful and supportive posts eh

mike

mikeb: are you sure?

Here's how to test if it works or not: Enable pageflipping in xorg.conf , restart X , run glxgears from the terminal and write down the score (the average FPS from 5 runs,ignore the first result)
Quit glxgears and close the terminal window. Now run glxgears again. The fps will be much lower. (e.g. 2160fps -> 1490fps)

If page flipping is working correctly the FPS will stay the same (or change only slightly) during the second run.

mikeb · #116 Post by **mikeb** » Tue 22 Sep 2009, 13:26

Here's how to test if it works or not: Enable pageflipping in xorg.conf , restart X , run glxgears from the terminal and write down the score (number of FPS)
Quit glxgears and close the terminal window. Now run glxgears again. The fps will be much lower.

If page flipping is working correctly the FPS will not change or change only slightly.

page flipping is meant to increase fps which it does

Option "EnablePageFlip" "boolean"
Enable page flipping for 3D acceleration. This will increase performance but not work correctly in some rare cases, hence the default is off.

There is mention of it being disabled in the later xorg's for some drivers...perhaps that is what you are experiencing

mike

Jim1911 · #117 Post by **Jim1911** » Tue 22 Sep 2009, 14:03

ttuuxxx,

Fine update. Works great on my system. I really like Firefox as the default browser.

Thanks,
Jim

panzerpuppy · #118 Post by **panzerpuppy** » Tue 22 Sep 2009, 15:25

mikeb wrote:page flipping is meant to increase fps which it does
Option "EnablePageFlip" "boolean"
Enable page flipping for 3D acceleration. This will increase performance but not work correctly in some rare cases, hence the default is off.

Yes,enabling the page flipping works and does increase the fps (i.e. 1490fps -> 2160fps), but there is a BUG with the page flipping code (it's broken). Whenever you start a 3D app, glxgears,a WINE session or even Opera, the page flipping gets disabled automatically (i.e. fps drops from 2160 -> 1490) and it remains like that forever until you restart X.

Billtoo · #119 Post by **Billtoo** » Tue 22 Sep 2009, 15:25

ttuuxxx wrote:
panzerpuppy wrote:Puppies 4.3.1 uses a *very old* version of Xorg (v7.0 from 2005) (LOL)
2005 wasn't all that long ago, most computers that use puppy are from that era, and another fact that older X-Server has 6MB extra modules thats allows newer PC like mine do circles around the latest one in series 4, If I knew which modules were added to 2.14R I might take a stab compiling them for the current model. Never the less my pc is less than 2yrs old and probably has more memory in the graphic card than most users of puppy have in there whole pc, and that retro X-server does do a better job for my pc, a great noticeable increase of speed with FF3.5, but anyways since people would rather complain and laugh, I rebuilt 4.31.1 with the original slower/smaller current X-server so now you have choice and can't complain.
Now I'm going back to 2.20 Retro Puppy
enjoy guys
Page 1 -main version is the original X-server version
ttuuxxx

I downloaded your new puppies4.31.1 with the newer X-server and it now works with my widescreen monitor at 1440x900x24.
Firefox 3.53 is great, streamtuner too..
thanks for this ttuuxx,
Bill

#120 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Tue 22 Sep 2009, 15:52

Well that's great that you guys are finally liking it

sure was a lot of work.
ttuuxxx

#121 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Tue 22 Sep 2009, 16:03

Most of you guys might find this tool very handy

compiled on 4.31.1
ttuuxxx
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 318#343318

panzerpuppy · #122 Post by **panzerpuppy** » Tue 22 Sep 2009, 16:08

@ttuuxxx: How about a "pure" 4.31.2 release (no Firefox,no Xorg downgrade,no insert key crash tweaks) with these additions:

- Memtest86+ (accessible before booting Puppy with a 'memtest' or pfix="test" command)
- The latest SVN build of mtPaint
- Firelog
- A network monitor / bandwidth meter
- A cpu usage meter in the tray (xload is NOT a CPU usage meter)

mikeb · #123 Post by **mikeb** » Tue 22 Sep 2009, 16:14

So are you trying to say that running glxgears twice will give a slower result the second time?
This I do not observe.

mike

Sylvander · #124 Post by **Sylvander** » Tue 22 Sep 2009, 16:17

The BoxPup CPU usage display down in the tray is SUPERB.

I miss it in other Puppies.

panzerpuppy · #125 Post by **panzerpuppy** » Tue 22 Sep 2009, 16:27

mikeb wrote:So are you trying to say that running glxgears twice will give a slower result the second time?
This I do not observe.

mike

Yes. That's what I get with older versions of Xorg

Not only glxgears,but other apps can also trigger the performance decrease (disable the pageflipping)

Old versions of Xorg / Xserver also have problems with widescreen resolutions (i.e. 1920x1080)

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