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aragon

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PostPosted: Mon 21 Sep 2009, 11:03    Post subject:  

panzerpuppy wrote:
Another very important app to add is memtest86+. Make it executable from the boot menu without starting Puppy, as it was possible in the old versions of Puppy (or Knoppix).

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Woof built Upup CE, Dpup CE and Tpup CE


I vote for a Pure Puppy (Ppup CE)

i second both points.

a point about the objectives from page 1:
i think they are all necessary but some are big challenges (not meant negative).

but we should first make clear what will be the future of 4.4 ce? will it be the last 4-series as puppy-5 is next? if so, the hard work might only live in 4.4ce. then it might be more efficient to do 'only' minor updates/changes/... and wait for puppy-5 with the big changes.

i have no idea what's the right decision, i only wanted to mention that point.

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PostPosted: Tue 22 Sep 2009, 05:34    Post subject:  

Barry wants time and space to create puppy5
So this gives the chance for a new coordinator to try out
to add any enhancements that arrive (and can then be added
to version 5 easily)
and to have fun

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PostPosted: Tue 22 Sep 2009, 19:25    Post subject:  

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should we be adding support of this?
http://www.theora.org/
How big? Is there demand?
I have never even heard of it

It is open source video comparable to ogg/vorbis audio so I would hope we could support it. OK, full disclosure, I have never watched a video in theora, but I still think we should.
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PostPosted: Tue 22 Sep 2009, 21:58    Post subject:  

theora requires SDL, not that that would necessarily be a bad thing either, but firefox 3.5 supports it natively as part of its html 5 implementation, I don't know if ttuuxxx's build supports it or not though.
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PostPosted: Fri 25 Sep 2009, 01:20    Post subject:  

James C wrote:
Why a Puppy 4.4?

Why not. Puppy 5 may be a bit down the road......I assume Barry K has an idea of when it will be possible.looks like there is still a lot of work to do there.

Since it is Barry K's idea for a 4.4, that is good enough for me. Smile


I'm not sure anyone has answered this question so i'll put my 5cents in here (we no longer have one and two cent coins).

Consider this:-

ALL x.xCE versions since version 2 have been picked up by most of the computer magazines internationally across the world, whether the magazine was of a linux bent or not! The intermediate releases have sometimes been picked up by the odd magazine.

All those extra people at least knowing about "puppy" at least leads to thought, if not at least a few hundred trials. It's got to be for the good!

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PaulBx1

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PostPosted: Wed 14 Oct 2009, 00:24    Post subject:  

Please consider automatic backup of the pupsave during shutdown. It got talked about and never done last time around. Even with my modest coding skills I have put it in my rc.shutdown and it is a real time-saver, not to mention I now back up way more than I ever did before. See my solution on this thread:

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?search_id=1024667494&t=44156
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Aitch


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PostPosted: Mon 19 Oct 2009, 17:17    Post subject:  

Can I put in a suggestion to all good puppy codesmiths...?

Can anyone make a user feedback add-on for networking that shows what the status of the network wizard is.....?

A progress gui would be great - the 'stages to connect' is only a logic flow chart, after all

There are oh so many cries for help with networking and us poor souls trying to help, have to ask noobies/experienced users alike, loads of questions, sometimes misunderstood, just trying to figure out what has actually happened, and why they can't get on the web

It must be THE most common call for help [and I do realise many times it's a driver issue, but also APIPA loopback IP a lot, & where there is a DNS issue]

thanks - big wish I know......but here's hoping... Wink

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PostPosted: Mon 19 Oct 2009, 19:03    Post subject:  

wpa_gui works like a charm ...too bad its not gtk2 ...
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=47838
yet another reason to use a Qt based browser

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PostPosted: Mon 19 Oct 2009, 19:42    Post subject:  

So is that a likely candidate for inclusion then?

Did you do the recompile of qt?

....You have taken on a huge task here....I hope you won't get whodo'd Wink

You have my deepest admiration, and support, thanks Very Happy

PS there's also WICD, gnome network manager,

and there's also things like Nagios and Wireshark

I feel bad after all dougal's efforts, but it just won't go away.....

I feel that this could be a clincher for you to nail, as a hero...

edit: oops sorry edit xpost

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PostPosted: Mon 19 Oct 2009, 20:04    Post subject:  

I am about halfway through my 3rd go at it actually - kids aren't around now so maybe I can finish this time - Qt takes wayyy too long to compile.... If we can squeeze the 2 main Qt libs in (core and gui) it will replace Xautoconnect.
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PostPosted: Tue 20 Oct 2009, 03:27    Post subject:  

technosaurus wrote:
I am about halfway through my 3rd go at it actually - kids aren't around now so maybe I can finish this time - Qt takes wayyy too long to compile.... If we can squeeze the 2 main Qt libs in (core and gui) it will replace Xautoconnect.

When i compile QT usually i do it before I go to bed or to work, so when I getup or come home its done Smile
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PostPosted: Tue 20 Oct 2009, 04:25    Post subject:  

Here's a qt wallpaper changer that looks very interesting, might be an idea Smile You might have to alter the sources a bit to work on rox like Gposil did for the other changer
ttuuxxx
http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Desktop-Environment/Tools/Wally-43915.shtml

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Aitch


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PostPosted: Wed 21 Oct 2009, 15:55    Post subject:  

techno,

In case you don't spot it, I was editing my last post when you posted

You may care to re-read it for a further network manager idea/plug, thanks

Another suggestion....

How about including PXE booting [with a menu entry in the hoped for catdude bootgui], in puppy4.4CE?

It's been done before as an afterthought, by raffy, I think, maybe others, but never made it into a mainstream version

It would also go down well in the round of reviews, methinks!

It would be very useful for people with slow modems/ low ram/no CD, but may mean keeping a PXE boot server on the repo, or something, I think...?

I don't think it is hard to implement, but throw the idea up for discussion

please don't shoot the messenger.... Wink Laughing

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PostPosted: Thu 22 Oct 2009, 13:09    Post subject:  

net work boot requires the huge init AFAIK. This would be possible if the new unionfs will work this way (I don't know) - The small size increase could be offset by not having to include doubles of the initrd utilities for when the "switchroot" occurs. so the question is....

Can we union layers directly on top of the initial ram disk?

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PostPosted: Thu 22 Oct 2009, 13:31    Post subject:  

Fresh Qt 4.5.3 and Qt 4.5.3-DEV .PET packages by coolpup:

http://puppylinux.org/wikka/Qt

Cool! Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
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