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Hello world!

Here's Cinelerra and its dependencies compiled in Unnamed 1.1 for those who want it. Tested it in Mediapup and it doesn't work so I'm assuming it won't work in any other pups. Different glibc I think.

So here it is in all it's glory, unstripped and a whopping 19mb for the Cinelerra pet, and 13mb for all the dependencies. I tried stripping the Cinelerra pet, really shrunk it, but I had too many weird dependency errors. I also tried making an SFS of it with no success either. If someone wants to have ago at shrinking or making Cinelerra into a SFS, feel free, but it would be nice if you could tell me what you did, I would like to know so I could learn from it. Learning experience.

cinelerra-2.1CV.pet

Requires
SDL
OpenGL

Dependencies
fftw-3.2.1.pet
libdv-1.0.0.pet
faac-1.28.pet
faad2-2.7.pet
libraw1394-1.2.0.pet
libavc1394-0.5.3.pet
libdv-1.0.0.pet
libtheora-1.0.pet
mjpegtools-1.9.0.pet
ilmbase-1.0.1.pet
openexr-1.6.1.pet
x264.pet

I really hate the original Cinelerra theme, see first pic, and so if you're like me and despise it, there is hope! It can be changed in the preference menu, Settings-Preferences-Interface-Theme, and change it from there. Lower screenshot is the theme Bluedot. I rather like it rather than the blond one.

SUV Theme (default)


Bluedot Theme


Many thanks to MU who told me how to crack the Cinelerra mystery and to Wow for his great puplet. Oh, and the libdv pet is BigBass's slightly edited because I couldn't compile it for peanuts Thanks everyone!

Battleshooter

It simply won't even open for me. I click the icon, nothing.

It said it was missing these dep's;

In: usr/lib/libquicktimehv-1.6.0.so.1.0.0
libx264.so.58
In: usr/lib/libguicast.so.1.0.0
libGLU.so.1
In: usr/bin/cinelerra
libx264.so.58
libGLU.so.1
libxcb-xlib.so.0
libxcb.so.1
libx264.so.58
libGLU.so.1

Or is this just a thread for people to toy around with try to make this work in Puppy?

elcolto13 wrote: Or is this just a thread for people to toy around with try to make this work in Puppy?

No, this is supposed to be a working version of Cinelerra, sorry Elcolto13, I forgot to upload a x264 pet, and that's why you're getting dependency issues. Another thing I didn't mention was the SDL and that OpenGL/3D acceleration is needed. My greatest apologies. Thanks for letting me know. If there are any other problems, please let me know. Thanks!

Battleshooter

elcolto13 wrote:It simply won't even open for me. I click the icon, nothing.

It said it was missing these dep's;

In: usr/lib/libquicktimehv-1.6.0.so.1.0.0
libx264.so.58
In: usr/lib/libguicast.so.1.0.0
libGLU.so.1
In: usr/bin/cinelerra
libx264.so.58
libGLU.so.1
libxcb-xlib.so.0
libxcb.so.1
libx264.so.58
libGLU.so.1

Or is this just a thread for people to toy around with try to make this work in Puppy?

Looks like you need OpenGL. Use your puppy package manager and install package: xorg_xorg_dri-7.3.1

The package name above assumes you are using puppy 4.x
Basically look for something containing "xorg" and "dri" in the package name.

@ Battleshooter: I too have noticed problems when trying to make a working pet and all its dependencies into a .sfs file. Making it into a roxapp could provide the convenience needed. I made a .sfs file of blender and its dependencies and packaged it into a roxapp. It includes OpenGL too. The AppRun script will check for OpenGL and install it if needed, then it will mount the blender.sfs file and export the environment variables. I haven't really given it rigorous testing yet, but it seems to work like a charm. I have been testing it on an unremastered puppy 4.2 session with no pup_save file loaded, and it has been working.

BTW It may sound redudnant to package an app this way, but, to the best of my knowledge, loading a .sfs module will not install OpenGL on your system and unloading it poses a challenge as well. With an sfs roxapp, you get the compact size of a .sfs module with the convenience of simply unmounting the filesystem's mount point when done using it to free up ram space. And if you need to use it again, just simply click on it again.... My blender app even copies the blender.desktop file to /usr/share/applications, fixes the menus, refreshes, and restarts jwm for you.

I just tried installing the .pet fron cinerlerra and the .pets for the dependencies on a fresh puppy 4.3.1 frugal install

Came up with a need for
libxcb-xlib.so.0

Found the lib in a small archive file on the forum for a completely different purpose: (Missing libraries)
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... a301331a53

Haven't tested it thoroughly though - there is some hate mail in the console but the screen is up - looks promising.

Interesting. No idea if it will work, but if it does, good for you man, and for others on 4.3.1. Hope it works.

Battleshooter

Great effort battleshooter. Cinelerra is considered the most complete video editing app in Linux. It's also among the most difficult to put together properly. Consequently, if someone can get it working under Puppy, it would be a real coup.

@ Paulski, please let us know how you made out, or what problems you ran into. I've been following the dPup 482 thread and was going to make a stab at Cinelerra once dPup482's synaptic ran properly on a frugal install. I had no hope of success but was curious and have some time on my hands. But if it can be run under 4.31 I figured chances of success might improve considerably.

Anyone following this thread might be interested to know that somehow pure-dyne, apparently, got it to work. Like Puppy, pure-dyne can be run from a LiveCD or frugally installed. Examining pure-dyne's structure and files might prove informative.

mikesLr

@ Mikeslr

Actually, considering your post, I don't think it would be hard to compile Cinelerra for 4.3.1. Maybe I'll have ago this afternoon. I compiled all the dependencies for Unnamed from scratch except for a handful from pets. I know this version definitely works in Unnamed, but no one's told me yet if it worked on their machine.

Battleshooter

Cinelerra 4.1 for Dpup is here...http://dpup.org/test/dpup482beta5-2.6.3 ... 6-dpup.pet

Cheers

@ gposil, thank you is inadequate. While I have other Puppies I could try it on, I'd rather do so on your dPup beta5 which I'm in the process of getting up and running.

As you never seem to sleep, perhaps you can take a look at musher0's comments on the ChoicePup thread, and sunburnt's and my interjections regarding the importance of jbr's sfs-Linker.

Thanks again,

mikesLr

I had a go at compiling Cinelerra on 4.3.1 the other day, and it worked out. I haven't tested it thoroughly, but I should have it tested and the pets out, hopefully by next week.



Battleshooter

Wow, this is recentish! Have you thought about putting all the dependencies together?

EDIT: I did everything stated at the top, restarted x, and tried to run Cinelerra through the console. What I got was: Meaning that for some reason I don't have GLU. I thought I had OpenGL, even though I've never gotten any OpenGL program to work, and I thought GLU was included with OpenGL. You know, if you're going to blatantly say that you NEED OpenGL, put a dotpet up, please!

Hey Keanen,

What Puppy are you using? This Cinelerra was for Unnamed 1.1, and as far as know doesn't work on anything else. Let me know which Puppy you're using, and I'll have ago at making an SFS with all the dependencies included. In the past I was unable to successfully make an SFS but it might work out now.

As for the GLU issue, that's a barrel of fun. If you're lucky, your graphics card will be supported by the default OpenGL package: xorg_xorg_full_dri-7.3.pet. If you're not, you'll have to search the puppy forum for your graphic's card drivers. A bit messy, but very worthwhile.

Sorry about the mess of this Cinelerra setup, I'm still learning about packaging stuff, so hopefully I'll soon be able to offer more tidy solutions.

Battleshooter

Hi, I was wondering if anyone has an update .PET for Cinelerra, and/or can anyone recommend what video and audio formats are best to use in Cinelerra if coding with the FFconverter that comes with Puppy slacko5.7. I am impressed with the program, but am having a lot of trouble getting any audio to import and work. Tutorials recommend an mjpeg codec for video.. which works fine, and it is recommended to use an mp4 audio codec... which ffconverter does not have it in its list of codecs. I have tried all sorts of combinations and would really appreciate anyone who has been through the mill and found out what combinations work... or is there any secret dependency I have not found yet for audio? Thanks.

Are there any PETs out there for a more recent version of Cinelerra, since it's up to v4.6 now? I'd love to give this program a try, as it seems like a very promising replacement for PowerDirector for people coming from the Windows ecosystem.

In answer to my own question - I found a PET for v4.1 over at Puppy Linux FAQ. Can confirm it installs and opens without issues on Precise Puppy 5.7.1

Here's the link!

Hi All,

Just a link to don570's build and my posts --further down the thread-- about just downloading Cinelerra from its publisher's cite. http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 461#751461

mikesLr