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Image viewer that supports animated .gif and .png/.mng?
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Makoto


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PostPosted: Thu 03 Sep 2009, 21:48    Post subject:  Image viewer that supports animated .gif and .png/.mng?  

Do any of the image viewers currently available as .pets have support for animated .GIFs and .PNGs? I've already tried Fotoxx, GPicView and GQview, and... unless there's something I've missed, they only display the first frame of an animated image.

Well, okay, I'm not as worried about animated .png support, because I rarely come across those. Neutral
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PostPosted: Sat 05 Sep 2009, 20:15    Post subject:  

Right-click on the animated .gif file and select OpenWith/mtpaint or mozilla.

mtpaint gives you the option of animation or frames.

mozilla is the SeaMonkey browser which displays animation on a browser page. This will open in a new tab of an existing SeaMonkey window on whatever desktop it happens to be existing on. Look for it there.
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PostPosted: Sat 05 Sep 2009, 23:22    Post subject: another way...  

You can right-click on the .gif file and go to Set Run Action and in the window that pops up put " defaultpaint "$1" " (without the outside quotes).
Then anytime you click on a .gif file it should open with mtpaint (or whatever the default image program is on your system).

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PostPosted: Sat 05 Sep 2009, 23:23    Post subject:  

triple post
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PostPosted: Sat 05 Sep 2009, 23:23    Post subject:  

sorry, triple post. (the forum is playing up this morning)
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PostPosted: Sun 06 Sep 2009, 04:28    Post subject:  

Yeah, I know I can view the images in Seamonkey/Firefox, but I'm not sure I want to wait for the browsers to load just to view a simple animated image. Very Happy

mtpaint doesn't seem to want to load animated GIFs (tried two different GIFs). Normal images, it loads, but clicking the view animation button doesn't do anything. The edit frames button eventually pops up an error. Maybe a library was munged somewhere during the installs and uninstalls I've done, but I couldn't say for sure.
I can view the animations in The GIMP, but that's an additional set of steps. Smile (And the same concern as above - not sure I should load an image editor just to view an animated GIF. Smile )

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PostPosted: Sun 06 Sep 2009, 09:38    Post subject:  

Makoto
I just tried an animated gif with mtPaint and, you are right, it did not work.

Now that I think of it, I had not tried this before in 4.2.1. I recently upgraded from 4.1.2 where it did work as it did in earlier versions down to 4.0 in my experience in over a year now. So, naturally I just assumed....

I have always preferred the browser rendition anyway. You might try installing a tiny browser and making it the default app. for .gif files. Both of the smaller ones in the Puppy repository don't work well at all in the recent versions of Puppy but maybe you could find one elsewhere.

Possibly, too, is that there may be a newer version of mtPaint that will work. It may be worth a search and a try. I have done that with gXine that has also become problematic in the latest Puppy versions.
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wjaguar

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PostPosted: Sun 06 Sep 2009, 14:03    Post subject:  

Makoto wrote:
mtpaint doesn't seem to want to load animated GIFs (tried two different GIFs). Normal images, it loads, but clicking the view animation button doesn't do anything. The edit frames button eventually pops up an error. Maybe a library was munged somewhere during the installs and uninstalls I've done, but I couldn't say for sure.

mtPaint uses a small helper program, gifsicle, to handle animated GIFs; if it isn't installed, nothing would work.

The mtPaint version currently in development does have builtin support for animated GIFs, but it is limited to sequences no longer than 99 frames, and is likely to remain that way for another year (the next release will be version 3.40, and extensive animation features are planned for version 4.00 which will follow after that).

-= With best regards, Dmitry Groshev, maintainer of mtPaint =-
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PostPosted: Sun 06 Sep 2009, 16:28    Post subject:  

Hmm... maybe gifsicle isn't installed in Puppy Linux 4.2.1, then.

Images with up to 99 frames? How common are those? Shocked (I mean, even on some of the images I've seen that were converted from an AVI, they don't have 99 frames or more... (though most of them are from forum posts/avatars, so I guess they were being nice and not posting large-sized images).)

Great program, by the way. Smile

jackieflorida: Puppy 4.2.1 does have the gtkmoz browser installed, and I already have it set up as a quick viewer for local .html/.htm files, so I added it as a quick viewer for .gif. Seems to work so far, though I'd still hope for a regular viewer. Very Happy

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PostPosted: Sun 06 Sep 2009, 16:54    Post subject:  

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wjaguar

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PostPosted: Sun 06 Sep 2009, 17:06    Post subject:  

Makoto wrote:
Images with up to 99 frames? How common are those?

Not very, but they do happen - even GIFs with several thousand frames do exist in the wild. For example, the ones here.

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Seems to work so far, though I'd still hope for a regular viewer.

The viewer part of gifsicle, gifview, is rather small (55 Kb), and does play animation if run with "--animate" option. http://www.lcdf.org/gifsicle/
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PostPosted: Sun 06 Sep 2009, 17:23    Post subject:  

Makoto,

if you do need gifsicle, just extract attachment to /.
gifsicle.zip
Description 
zip

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Filename  gifsicle.zip 
Filesize  46.48 KB 
Downloaded  333 Time(s) 
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PostPosted: Sun 06 Sep 2009, 17:39    Post subject:  

Fossil: There's a Linux version of XNView? Huh. Didn't know that.

wjaguar: Several thousand frames? Shocked I think I probably always assumed animated GIFs had a hard limit on frames at some point, even though there was never any proof of that. Very Happy
Okay, I'll try both XNView and gifsicle's viewer and see what happens. Thanks (and to muggins, for the attachment).

Edit: Okay, here's the results. muggins, I'm not sure if I placed the file in the correct location (I placed it in /usr/bin/, I believe), but mtpaint still had the same problem after I copied the file there and tried it. After that, I followed the links at http://www.lcdf.org/gifsicle/ , grabbed a .deb of the gifsicle package (i386 version), converted that to a .pet, installed, and now, it works. Smile

As for the XNView .pet - it installed, but complained about a missing dependency (libXp.so.6). Was it supposed to create a menu entry?

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PostPosted: Sun 06 Sep 2009, 19:09    Post subject:  

I don't know about the missing menu for xnview, but here is libXp.so.6-i486.pet.

If you wanted to add a menu entry for xnview, you just need to create a ..desktop file for it, in /usr/share/applications, then run fixmenus command. Have a look at any of the graphics .desktop files, using a text editor, to get an idea of what you'll need for xnview. Something like:

Code:

[Desktop Entry]
Encoding=UTF-8
Name=Xnview
Icon=xnview.xpm
Comment=Xnview
Exec=xnview
Terminal=false
Type=Application
Categories=Graphics
GenericName=Xnview


If there isn't an xnview.xpm, then you would need to change the Icon line to point to another suitable icon.
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PostPosted: Tue 08 Sep 2009, 00:08    Post subject:  

Thanks. Now, XNView is working. I ended up being lazy and creating a link to it on the desktop rather than a menu entry, though. Smile

(The next version of XNView to come for Linux, XNView MP, will require Qt? Yay.)

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