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#16 Post by davesurrey »

Eric,
Missed that.
It's your site so I'm sure you aren't wrong. :)

Still would be interested to find out how I can see where mirrors point to in general.
Cheers
Dave

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#17 Post by aarf »

you might want to look into htaccess to password lock directories. most are using user:puppy password: linux

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#18 Post by Caneri »

Hi aarf,

Yup..I us those for logins...what we are doing is another method.

As of today the logs show a big drop in bandwidth (the new setup will take time to watch and to see the actual changes/logs/bans etc).

If we can maintain around 50-70gb/day that will be sufficient I would think.

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#19 Post by ttuuxxx »

Hi Eric, just trying to download a 40mb kernel from CA and its downloading at 20kbs, and I tried to use axel at 4 connections and It limited me to just one, so its a 33min download for 40MB. Is that also the new max speed? Are there any other mirrors with the source files? www.puppylinux.asia/ doesn't have the sources files, maybe that could be a mirror. Well thanks again and I don't mean to be a pain.
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#20 Post by tlchost »

ttuuxxx wrote:Hi Eric, just trying to download a 40mb kernel from CA and its downloading at 20kbs, and I tried to use axel at 4 connections and It limited me to just one
If everyone downloading used 4 connections................hmmmmm, could that be a problem?

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#21 Post by runtt21 »

Just to clear this up , by "all of our stuff " I meant "our" as in all the puppies users and pup builders . Not just Macpup. We (Macpup) also have pups at softpedia and opera has been mirrored by lots of other sites and Torrent downloaders.

I just wanted to say thanks !!! thats all...

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#22 Post by prit1 »

ttuuxxx wrote:Hi Eric, just trying to download a 40mb kernel from CA and its downloading at 20kbs, and I tried to use axel at 4 connections and It limited me to just one, so its a 33min download for 40MB. Is that also the new max speed?....
ttuuxxx
There are no limits to speed, just number of connections. I am able to use 4-5 connections and it works great.

Macpup has three download mirrors on the main website. But, DW takes the first one (Puppylinux.ca) and gives a direct link on the announcement. Since .ca is the first one, it gets most of the hits.

A big thanks to Eric and John for the Puppylinux.ca repository. As far as I have researched dedicated / virtual dedicated servers, I have not seen any hosts that could give us a freedom to use 43TB in a month. If at all they did, they would charge us like $1000 a month or more.

The shared hosts that claim unlimited space / bandwidth are just using this to market their hosting. They can never meet that claim.
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#23 Post by aarf »

check this
https://code.launchpad.net/~aarf/+junk/unique

it says it will mirror
http://puppylinux.ca/puppyfiles

if/ when it does perhaps macpup and hacao and teenpup can add an extra mirror link for their downloads

aarf

#24 Post by aarf »

from https://code.launchpad.net/~aarf/+junk/unique
This branch has not been mirrored, as Launchpad has been unable to access it.
are you blocking this Eric?

aarf

#25 Post by aarf »

aarf wrote:from https://code.launchpad.net/~aarf/+junk/unique
This branch has not been mirrored, as Launchpad has been unable to access it.
are you blocking this Eric?
dont worry too much about this.i may have some fundamental misunderstanding of what is going on or supposed to happen here.

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#26 Post by Caneri »

@runtt,Prit,
Ok..I get it now.

@aarf...don't think so unless they have been naughty.

@ttuuxxx...I only get one connection here as well..dunno but it's set to 5

@Thom,
I think the vast majority use 1 connection but there were some that tried 20-30 and more (also some with thousands)...that's why it's changing as there is a limit on total connections as you are prolly aware as every server has limits.

I need to read back and catch up....Eric
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#27 Post by tlchost »

Caneri wrote: @Thom,
I think the vast majority use 1 connection but there were some that tried 20-30 and more (also some with thousands)...that's why it's changing as there is a limit on total connections as you are prolly aware as every server has limits.
If it were me paying for the bandwidth, I'd either severely restrict the number of connections anyone can use.

Thom

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#28 Post by Caneri »

Hi Thom,

Yup that's what we are doing. Finding a balance is our plan.... so users can get files without the hogs and allow a good experience for all.

I have seen that "503 server is busy" was showing up far to often..thus the changes.

Maybe I can pick your brain as I'm aware you do this as well..Eric
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#29 Post by tlchost »

Caneri wrote: Maybe I can pick your brain as I'm aware you do this as well..Eric
There ain't much to pick(if I was on the water now, I'd tell ya it's like picking crab meat when the crabs are "light"). Be happy to do that, but not in the forum.

You provide a very valuable service to the community, and have every right to manage the resources to insure that the maximum number of folks cab be serviced. (Oh my....it's a good thing we're not talking about houses of ill-repute).

Thom

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#30 Post by ttuuxxx »

yep another day and downloading another kernel and 30mins for 40MB @ 20kb/s, I'm limited to 1 connection only on the server which is strange, and I'm amazed at the number of connections Eric mentioned that some users were using, that's just wrong. up to 5 is a good number. Or even up to 3 would be really good right about now :).
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#31 Post by Caneri »

There is possibly another reason for the slow speeds.

There was a major DOS attack on Twitter and Face Book today.

I'm not saying that's why my network is slow but I'm slow at home as well, also at http://echrs.ca which has fast cable ...which isn't saying much as I'm always a bit slow..grr..it would be nice to have real high speed....Eric
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#32 Post by ecomoney »

Perfectly reasonable Eric, part of managing a a hugely important software mirror for a popular distro within an ever popular Operating System. By the sounds of it your trying very hard to justify the actions that have to be taken as part of managing your servers resources so that most can benefit. There really is no need.

Your terms of allowing banned i.p.'s to mirror you is extremely reasonable, meaning no-one will be denied access to those files, just the convenience of your server.
tronkel wrote:So is it not time to do some research and identify which commercial entities are making use of Puppy in order to increase their sales turnover? These entities should then contribute to the costs of maintaining Eric's servers.
Yes, as once as I break even I will, which will be as soon as you build a linux which attains its mission objectives :wink: :lol:

Seriously though, I am actually hoping to turn a profit quite soon, and Erics servers, from which I have gained much of my offline software library, will be one of the ones at the very top of my list to benefit. In the meantime Im sponsoring a [url]commercial project for Puppy Cybercafes[/url (released under gpl when done). I also host 3/4 TB of puppy linux files at ecomoney.eu (such as an Openoffice 3 and "commercially" tested firefox/flash/java setup for the latest 4.2.x puppy, and ftp accounts for several prominent puppy projects). I also contribute usability and field reports, method walk through's, documentation, and beginners forum technical support.

Now I sound as if Im trying to justify myself..... 8)

Eric, if there is anything in particular you need mirroring to take some load off your server (newly released projects for example) then drop me a line with a link.
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#33 Post by Caneri »

Hi Robert,
I hope all is well for you.

Our testing has reduced the bandwidth by a large amount.
Now the problem is, did we lock out legit users...grrr..it's always something so we relaxed some restrictions today to see if it's balanced. I have asked some veteran admins for help.

As time goes on and in the very near future we will find a proper balance for users...some will not be happy and others will find .ca a better place..anyway I hope so, as there is no choice even with a host that is donating to the Puppy project himself. I can't mooch off my host to provide a service that's mostly seen as a free service...you understand.

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#34 Post by legendofthor »

G'day,
Maybe all Puppy Forum members should lobby our respective ISPs to host the Puplets, at the least. Most ISPs have a File Hosting Service - I know the Internode does but has only mirrored the ibiblio files.
My internet provider is iinet and I'm currently being the squeeky wheel.

This may take the edge off Eric's bandwidth issue.

43tbs!!! This needs to be addressed asap and I hope people do their bit to Help Eric as he has been indispensible by hosting our files. We can try to return some of his generosity.

Cheers
Martin
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