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Shep

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PostPosted: Sun 24 Jan 2010, 04:26    Post subject:    

I'm using dpup477. I'd like to add on something so I can read the
newsgroups on USENET.

Will the standard seamonkey email/news .pet work on Dpup, or do I need
something specifically packaged for Dpup? Any other alternatives?

Thanks.
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PostPosted: Sun 24 Jan 2010, 10:39    Post subject:  

There is a usenet newsreader called Pan in the Dpup repository at ibiblio, it was packaged for 48x series dpup, but should work in 47x.

Try it

http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/puppylinux/pet_packages-5/pan-0.132-dpup.pet

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PostPosted: Fri 29 Jan 2010, 01:18    Post subject:  

gposil wrote:
There is a usenet newsreader called Pan in the Dpup repository at ibiblio, it was packaged for 48x series dpup, but should work in 47x.

Try it

http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/puppylinux/pet_packages-5/pan-0.132-dpup.pet

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Thanks. Seems to be working okay, (but only after uninstalling and
re-installing because it wouldn't retrieve messages to some groups).
BTW: it installed under 2 menu entries: NETWORK and INTERNET.
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PostPosted: Tue 02 Feb 2010, 21:01    Post subject:  

does dpup have multi-use support?
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PostPosted: Wed 03 Feb 2010, 00:31    Post subject:  

Hi otropogo

Not as yet (er, multi-user?).. it has been briefly discussed. It is probably a future thing once other problems are sorted.

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PostPosted: Wed 03 Feb 2010, 03:50    Post subject:  

01micko wrote:
Hi otropogo

Not as yet (er, multi-user?).. it has been briefly discussed. It is probably a future thing once other problems are sorted.

Cheers


Yes, I meant to write multi-user, but actually I only need a way to go online without being root. The security issue this presents in Puppy has me constantly using two separate machines with all the attendant costs in noise, space, record keeping, etc.. I can't continue much longer that way.

OTOH, having just read Pizzasgood's detailed instructions on transforming the current Puppy into a multi-user OS, I despair of ever succeeding by that route.

As much as I hate to start over with another distro and another user community, I'm starting to wonder whether I shouldn't jump over to Mint or SLAX.

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PostPosted: Wed 03 Feb 2010, 06:53    Post subject:  

otropogo, latest dpup beta has "SafeBrowser" which starts firefox as user "nobody" after you quit it nothing is saved, session runs and removes from /tmp after exit
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PostPosted: Wed 03 Feb 2010, 06:55    Post subject:  

If you're using another dpup version and don't feel like switching to latest, you can always run as spot:
Code:

su spot
defaultbrowser &


or this might work even:
Code:

su spot -c defaultbrowser

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PostPosted: Wed 03 Feb 2010, 13:11    Post subject:  

If I understand Pizzasgood's latest post about the false security of going online after booting Puppy with pfix=RAM, neither SPOT nor the safebrowser can stop a knowledgeable hacker from covertly gaining control of a Linux system running online as root.

OTOH, the limitations of both approaches are enormous.

It's not the browser that's the problem, it's running online as root, as xfprot is at pains to remind users.

As I understand it, If one's system is modified during an online session, deleting items downloaded by the browser won't fix it.

I suppose I could safely navigate the Internet by simply booting Puppy from a LiveCD on a system with no volatile storage other than RAM and removable flash. memory. But then I'd have to remaster the CD or DVD every time I needed to add an application or make any system modification, and I'd have to save bookmarks and passwords to the flash media and load them back into memory every time I start up.

The system would need to have at least a Gigabyte of RAM, and be entirely dedicated to this one task, or have some method of physically powering off all of the drives except for the burner.

But that doesn't seem practical...

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PostPosted: Sat 06 Feb 2010, 10:33    Post subject:  

I couldn't remember whether or not I tried dpup477b1, so I downloaded it, burnt a cd, and tried it. Powered down, creating a pupsave on the way, and rebooted. Now I remembered- won't boot a second time, get a kernel panic message when it switches to the layered file system. Is there a patch for this? If not, how come people are using it? How are they doing it? (Yes, I know- I haven't read all 52 pages of this topic.)

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PostPosted: Sat 13 Feb 2010, 00:03    Post subject:  

gerry wrote:
get a kernel panic message when it switches to the layered file system. Is there a patch for this? If not, how come people are using it?
gerry
I have it running on a PIII desktop and a P4 laptop. It worked
for me, first off, no kernel panic. Don't need no patch. Razz
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PostPosted: Sat 13 Feb 2010, 15:20    Post subject:  

@shep... live cd, frugal, or full install? I'm using live cd.

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PostPosted: Mon 15 Feb 2010, 01:34    Post subject:  

gerry wrote:
@shep... live cd, frugal, or full install? I'm using live cd.

gerry

I need the CD in the drive at power-up, but the dpup-477.sfs is stored on
the HD. What is that called?

I do intend at some time in the future to change it so that the CD is no
longer needed, but it's really no inconvenience leaving the CD there, and
boot is so quick anyway. Smile
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