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Marka01

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PostPosted: Wed 15 Jul 2009, 03:27    Post subject:  During slideshow screen went black  

Hello. Does anyone know how to disable that screen never goes black, never comes up screen saver, never standby and so on... ? I can't find power manager in Puppy. Can anyone expalain me how to do that ?
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PostPosted: Wed 15 Jul 2009, 04:13    Post subject:  

Menu>desktop>pupx>screensaver.
Uncheck box in upper left>click okay

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PostPosted: Wed 15 Jul 2009, 19:11    Post subject:  

You might also check your BIOS power settings.
Sometimes it has an option to blank the screen after a certain period of time.
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PostPosted: Thu 23 Jul 2009, 02:29    Post subject:  

I've checked bios. there is Video Off Method. The options are "V/HSYNCH Blank", "DPMS" and "Blank Only". http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/192/bios_tuning_guide/index11.html but switching those modes does not help..
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PostPosted: Thu 23 Jul 2009, 05:46    Post subject:  

maybe it's possible to add a task to Pschedule that it presses a desired button after 10 min ?
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PostPosted: Sat 25 Jul 2009, 05:37    Post subject:  

Did you dry rjbrewer's suggestion?
I don't think the setting is remembered when you reboot, so you would have to put the right command (I think from memory it is`xset s off`) in a startup script e.g. a script in /root/Startup.

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PostPosted: Sat 25 Jul 2009, 10:06    Post subject:  

Take a look in /usr/bin/gxineshell

This is a frontend script for running Gxine. it executed 'xset s off' prior to running gxine, then 'xset s on' after gxine has terminated.

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PostPosted: Fri 08 Jan 2010, 02:17    Post subject: Screen Still Goes Black  

Quote:
Menu>desktop>pupx>screensaver.
Uncheck box in upper left>click okay


The check box in the upper left is "Enable Screen Saver". Un-checking that box has no effect what so ever. The screen still goes black after 20 minutes.

Quote:
You might also check your BIOS power settings.
Sometimes it has an option to blank the screen after a certain period of time.


The Bios power management settings have all been disabled...No change.... The screen still goes black after 2o minutes of idle. As a validation that power management was not the culprit here I re-booted into Ubuntu. Ubuntu has a slideshow option call "picture Folder" in the screen saver, it ran continuously for 1 and 1/2 hours before I moved the mouse, during which time the screen never went black.

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`xset s off`) in a startup script e.g. a script in /root/Startup


I created a new script in /root/startup, the script was "xset s off" .... No change, the screen still goes black after 20 minutes.

Is there another option that I am overlooking? If so then what?
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PostPosted: Fri 08 Jan 2010, 10:13    Post subject:  

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=337673
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PostPosted: Fri 08 Jan 2010, 10:22    Post subject:  

In a console window, try:

xset q | grep DPMS

If you see "DPMS is Enabled", try this:

xset -dpms
xset q | grep DPMS

It should now say "DPMS is Disabled".
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PostPosted: Sun 10 Jan 2010, 03:45    Post subject:  

Quote:
Un-checking that box has no effect what so ever.

Did you restart X after checking it?

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PostPosted: Tue 12 Jan 2010, 17:10    Post subject: Trying to stop the Black Screen from appearing  

Thank you for the suggestions, I tried them with the following results;

The "No Blankscreen 1.0" feature was not located under any menu item. I also could not find anything that even resembled it under any of the sub menu's. Please be more explicit as to where that feature is located.

Used xset -dpms to disable and then verified that DPMS was disabled and then let the slideshow screensaver kick in. The black screen took over on schedule.

I then selected from the menu "restart xserver" and then let the slideshow screensaver kick in. The black screen took over on schedule.

I then used the console to verify that DPMS was disabled...it was not.. Restarting Xserver automatically resets DPMS to enable.

OK so what am I missing now?
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PostPosted: Thu 14 Jan 2010, 00:22    Post subject:  

I'm assuming that the "slideshow screensaver" you are using is PuppyScreensaver. If I have assumed incorrectly, please let me know.

Today I downloaded PuppyScreensaver.pet (and the three other files required to run it on Puppy 4.3.1) and tried to reproduce your symptoms. Unfortunately, I was unable to. For me, it ran for half an hour before I canceled it.

It is interesting that DPMS is being re-enabled at some point. We should determine if that is actually the culprit, or just a red herring.

If you disable DPMS, then verify that it is disabled, then let the screensaver kick in, then stop the screensaver and verify DPMS again, is it still disabled?

How about if you do the same, but wait for the screen to go blank before verifying DPMS again?

(Note that you should not restart the X server while making the above tests.)


After checking the above, you might try this:

xset dpms 0 0 0

That should disable the three DPMS modes, even if DPMS is enabled. (Of course, if something else re-enables those too, or if DPMS is not your problem, this won't help.)

(By the way, these xset commands are all temporary, and won't survive a reboot or restarting the X server. If you find one that works, we'll need to put it in a startup script, or find some other way to make it permanent.)

With a little luck, we'll get this figured out soon.
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PostPosted: Thu 14 Jan 2010, 01:52    Post subject:  

Is the screen just going black, or is it actually going blank (so the monitor switches itself off)?
/etc/X11/xorg.conf hasn't somehow got a line like this has it?
Code:
   Option      "OffTime" "5"
(not necessarily 5)
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PostPosted: Thu 14 Jan 2010, 22:54    Post subject: More Test Results - All Negative  

npierce

Your assumption is correct....This is the puppy screensaver, However, I am using puppy 4.2

Tests performed this time;

xset -dpms
verified that pdms was disabled
let slideshow kick in
ESC key
verified dpms was still disabled -- it was
let slidshow kick in
let black screen kick in
ESC key
verified dpms was still disabled -- it was

Repeated the above test three times - consistent results

Note: when the screen saver kicks in it centers the curser on the screen, when the black screen kicks in the curser remains in the center of the screen. The black screen is now starting 10 minutes after last mouse movement. prior to tonight it would not start until 20 minutes after the last mouse and it would temporarily bring up the "No Analog Signal" message and the screen would then go completely black as in asleep. The only difference between tonight and the last evenings attemp is that I now have a script "xset s off" in startup. Could that account for this change in the phenomenon?

disciple

With regard to the xorg.conf file; I could not find anything that resembled the line in question, but the screen no-longer turns off as it had. my xorg.conf is as follows;

#Special base config file used in Puppy Linux.

# **********************************************************************
# Module section -- this section is used to specify
# which dynamically loadable modules to load.
# **********************************************************************
#
Section "Module"

# This loads the DBE extension module.

Load "dbe" # Double buffer extension

# This loads the miscellaneous extensions module, and disables
# initialisation of the XFree86-DGA extension within that module.
SubSection "extmod"
Option "omit xfree86-dga" # don't initialise the DGA extension
EndSubSection

# This loads the font modules
Load "type1"
Load "freetype"

# This loads xtrap extension, used by xrandr
Load "xtrap"

# This loads the GLX module (if present)
Load "glx"

# This loads dri module (if present)
Load "dri"

EndSection

# **********************************************************************
# Files section. This allows default font and rgb paths to be set
# **********************************************************************

Section "Files"

# The location of the RGB database. Note, this is the name of the
# file minus the extension (like ".txt" or ".db"). There is normally
# no need to change the default.

RgbPath "/usr/X11R7/lib/X11/rgb"

# Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (which are concatenated together),
# as well as specifying multiple comma-separated entries in one FontPath
# command (or a combination of both methods)

FontPath "/usr/X11R7/lib/X11/fonts/misc/"
FontPath "/usr/X11R7/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/"
FontPath "/usr/X11R7/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/"

EndSection

# **********************************************************************
# Server flags section.
# **********************************************************************

Section "ServerFlags"

# Uncomment this to disable the <Crtl><Alt><Fn> VT switch sequence
# (where n is 1 through 12). This allows clients to receive these key
# events.

# Option "DontVTSwitch"

# Enables mode switching with xrandr
# There is a report that this can cause Xorg not to work on some
# video hardware, so default is commented-out...
# but i want to use it in xorgwizard so leave on...

Option "RandR" "on"

EndSection

#everything past here is auto-generated by Puppy's Xorg Wizard...


Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "X.org Configured"
Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0
InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Keyboard0"
Driver "kbd"
Option "XkbRules" "xorg"
Option "XkbModel" "pc102"
Option "XkbLayout" "us" #xkeymap0
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Mouse0"
Driver "mouse"
Option "Protocol" "auto" #mouse0protocol
Option "Device" "/dev/mouse"
#Option "Emulate3Buttons"
#Option "Emulate3Timeout" "50"
Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" #scrollwheel
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier "Monitor0"
VendorName "Monitor Vendor"
ModelName "Monitor Model"
HorizSync 30-82
VertRefresh 56-76
#UseModes "Modes0" #monitor0usemodes
Option "PreferredMode" "1280x1024"
EndSection

Section "Modes"
Identifier "Modes0"
#modes0modeline0
EndSection

Section "Device"
### Available Driver options are:-
### Values: <i>: integer, <f>: float, <bool>: "True"/"False",
### <string>: "String", <freq>: "<f> Hz/kHz/MHz"
### [arg]: arg optional
#Option "Accel" # [<bool>]
#Option "AccelMethod" # <str>
#Option "TurboQueue" # [<bool>]
#Option "FastVram" # [<bool>]
#Option "HostBus" # [<bool>]
#Option "RenderAcceleration" # [<bool>]
#Option "ForceCRT1Type" # <str>
#Option "ForceCRT2Type" # <str>
#Option "ShadowFB" # [<bool>]
#Option "DRI" # [<bool>]
#Option "AGPSize" # <i>
#Option "GARTSize" # <i>
#Option "Vesa" # [<bool>]
#Option "MaxXFBMem" # <i>
#Option "EnableSiSCtrl" # [<bool>]
#Option "SWCursor" # [<bool>]
#Option "HWCursor" # [<bool>]
#Option "UseColorHWCursor" # [<bool>]
#Option "Rotate" # <str>
#Option "Reflect" # <str>
#Option "Xvideo" # [<bool>]
#Option "InternalModes" # [<bool>]
#Option "OverruleFrequencyRanges" # [<bool>]
#Option "RestoreBySetMode" # [<bool>]
#Option "ForceCRT1" # [<bool>]
#Option "XvOnCRT2" # [<bool>]
#Option "PanelDelayCompensation" # <i>
#Option "PDC" # <i>
#Option "PanelDelayCompensation2" # <i>
#Option "PDC2" # <i>
#Option "PanelDelayCompensation1" # <i>
#Option "PDC1" # <i>
#Option "EMI" # <i>
#Option "LVDSHL" # <i>
#Option "ForcePanelRGB" # <i>
#Option "SpecialTiming" # <str>
#Option "TVStandard" # <str>
#Option "UseROMData" # [<bool>]
#Option "UseOEMData" # [<bool>]
#Option "YV12" # [<bool>]
#Option "CHTVType" # [<bool>]
#Option "CHTVOverscan" # [<bool>]
#Option "CHTVSuperOverscan" # [<bool>]
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#Option "CHTVCVBSColor" # [<bool>]
#Option "CHTVTextEnhance" # <i>
#Option "CHTVContrast" # <i>
#Option "SISTVEdgeEnhance" # <i>
#Option "SISTVAntiFlicker" # <str>
#Option "SISTVSaturation" # <i>
#Option "SISTVCFilter" # [<bool>]
#Option "SISTVYFilter" # <i>
#Option "SISTVColorCalibFine" # <i>
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#Option "TVXPosOffset" # <i>
#Option "TVYPosOffset" # <i>
#Option "SIS6326TVAntiFlicker" # <str>
#Option "SIS6326TVEnableYFilter" # [<bool>]
#Option "SIS6326TVYFilterStrong" # [<bool>]
#Option "SIS6326TVForcePlug" # <str>
#Option "SIS6326FSCAdjust" # <i>
#Option "YPbPrAspectRatio" # <str>
#Option "TVBlueWorkAround" # [<bool>]
#Option "ColorHWCursorBlending" # [<bool>]
#Option "ColorHWCursorBlendThreshold" # <i>
#Option "CRT2Detection" # [<bool>]
#Option "ForceCRT2ReDetection" # [<bool>]
#Option "SenseYPbPr" # [<bool>]
#Option "CRT1Gamma" # [<bool>]
#Option "CRT2Gamma" # [<str>]
#Option "GammaBrightness" # <str>
#Option "GammaBrightnessCRT2" # <str>
#Option "CRT2GammaBrightness" # <str>
#Option "Brightness" # <str>
#Option "NewGammaBrightness" # <str>
#Option "CRT2Brightness" # <str>
#Option "CRT2NewGammaBrightness" # <str>
#Option "Contrast" # <str>
#Option "NewGammaContrast" # <str>
#Option "CRT2Contrast" # <str>
#Option "CRT2NewGammaContrast" # <str>
#Option "CRT1Saturation" # <i>
#Option "XvGamma" # [<str>]
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#Option "XvUseMemcpy" # [<bool>]
#Option "BenchmarkMemcpy" # [<bool>]
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#Option "XvDefaultAdaptor" # <str>
#Option "ScaleLCD" # [<bool>]
#Option "CenterLCD" # [<bool>]
#Option "EnableHotkey" # [<bool>]
#Option "ForceCRT1VGAAspect" # <str>
#Option "ForceCRT2VGAAspect" # <str>
#Option "MergedFB" # [<str>]
#Option "TwinView" # [<str>]
#Option "MergedFBAuto" # [<bool>]
#Option "CRT2HSync" # <str>
#Option "SecondMonitorHorizSync" # <str>
#Option "CRT2VRefresh" # <str>
#Option "SecondMonitorVertRefresh" # <str>
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#Option "MergedXineramaCRT2IsScreen0" # [<bool>]
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Identifier "Card0"
Driver "sis" #card0driver
VendorName "Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]"
BoardName "661/741/760 PCI/AGP or 662/761Gx PCIE VGA Display Adapter"
BusID "PCI:1:0:0"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen0"
Device "Card0"
Monitor "Monitor0"
DefaultDepth 24
Subsection "Display"
Depth 24
Modes "1280x1024"
EndSubsection
EndSection

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