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dogone

Joined: 21 Apr 2008 Posts: 202 Location: Arizona, USA
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Posted: Sun 12 Jul 2009, 23:30 Post subject:
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Just my two cents worth about 416's new look. The new icons are really very excellent - very professional and attractive.
I can't say the same about Super Pup, lovable though he may be. That background is not going to cut it. It's far too loud, lacks refinement and clashes terribly with the new icons.
My vote? Keep those lovely icons and go with a very quiet, perhaps monochrome background. The "dark gray" actually looks quite good.
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gposil

Joined: 06 Apr 2009 Posts: 1305 Location: Stanthorpe (The Granite Belt), QLD, Australia
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Posted: Sun 12 Jul 2009, 23:44 Post subject:
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Yet another mirror of Barry's /test directory...
http://www.gposil.com/test
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James C

Joined: 26 Mar 2009 Posts: 4743 Location: Kentucky
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Posted: Sun 12 Jul 2009, 23:57 Post subject:
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I installed 4.16 on my multi-boot test machine a little earlier today.Don't know if this is considered a bug or not but the universal installer did not recognize Puppy 2.14r X5 on one of the partitions.
The partitions are as follows: /hda1 Windows 2000, /hda2 extended, /hda5 Debris 1.50, /hda6 Ttuuxxx's Puppy 4.20, /hda7 swap, /hda8 Puppy 4.12, /hda9 Puppy 2.14r X5, and /hda10 Puppy 4.16.....all full installs.
The installer recognized all of the partitions, as well as the installs of 4.20 and 4.12....but not 2.14r.Don't know if its a bug but thought I'd point it out.
Otherwise, working fine so far.
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Lobster
Official Crustacean

Joined: 04 May 2005 Posts: 15109 Location: Paradox Realm
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Posted: Mon 13 Jul 2009, 02:24 Post subject:
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Booted up this morning from DVD
(so this is the equivalent of the second boot)
Puppy dumped me to the command line
Tried resetting xorg (sometimes the monitor refresh rates are too high)
OK could not get that working (it had been working on both a fresh 'pfix=ram and update from 4.15)
so used xvesa - it is still worthwhile having both
Now had no internet (Ethernet) connection
and when I tried to connect it was not recognizing my Ethernet
and trying to 'load a wifi module'
Little disappointed as I have been using 4.15 (yes a few niggles - but it is an Alpha) as a very stable working day to day OS
So am using 42.1 at the moment to check email, twitter and check the nudes . . . eh news . . .
Just reporting in - a lot of checking seems to have gone into 4.16
but it seems to have been the second boot that did not recognize or acknowledge what was already working - am a bit confused how this might happen . . .
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OlddogNewtricks
Joined: 07 Jun 2009 Posts: 124 Location: U.K.
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Posted: Mon 13 Jul 2009, 05:08 Post subject:
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Hi Barry & all,
I've been trying out 'dougalremaster-2.16' from pup 3 to create a 'customized' pup sfs file. At first all looked well apart from the resulting sfs needing a name change which should be an easy fix similar to pup 214R However when I looked at the file size it had grown by 21Mb, that is the zp416516.sfs driver file had been saved as well. I started again this time deleting the zp416516.sfs file before remastering. No change, so I can only assume the entire driver file contents must be loaded into ram at boot & then saved when remastering.
Also tried a pupsave file then deleted zp416516.sfs & rebooted but stuck at xorg, so my personal settings weren't saved making the driver file necessary at every boot.
Doesn't this defeat the object of a seperate driver file.
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Jim1911
Joined: 19 May 2008 Posts: 2353 Location: Texas, USA
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Posted: Mon 13 Jul 2009, 12:49 Post subject:
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This distribution has amazing speed and seems to work very well with a few exceptions:
1. ext4 partitions are not recognized by pmount or gparted.
2. HP C5280 all-in-one usb printer, copier, scanner is not recognized by Xsane. KUDO to the printing which works great (even printed a web page viewed with Firefox 3.5, and formatted spreadsheet from gnumeric).
3. E-mail icon doesn't work.
For those of us that like extra bling, pwidgets seems to work fine.
Looking good,
Jim
PS: Please consider the use of a journaling file system (ext3 or ext4) for the pup_save file or include options to use them.
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ricstef
Joined: 01 Aug 2006 Posts: 52 Location: Woodstock, ON. Canada
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Posted: Mon 13 Jul 2009, 13:53 Post subject:
PPLOG throws "403 Forbidden" error Subject description: Permissions problem ? |
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Tried PPLOG and it throws the "403 FORBIDDEN" error.
In /root/httpd entered:
# chgrp -R nobody hiawatha
but I still get the same error.
what did I miss ?
Cheers,
Richard.
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shinobar

Joined: 28 May 2009 Posts: 2257 Location: Japan
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Posted: Mon 13 Jul 2009, 22:01 Post subject:
remastered puppy may not bootup Subject description: gunzip modules in initrd shuld have -f (force overwright) option |
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Hi Barry, nice distribution
i think it can be a problem at gunzip in /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit
line 126-132
| Code: | if [ "$NEEDGUNZIP" = "yes" ];then
#w001 ubuntu module-init-tools not configured to support gzipped modules...
for ONEMOD in `find /lib/modules/${KERNVER}/initrd/* -type f -name *.gz | tr '\n' ' '`
do
gunzip $ONEMOD
done
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should be
| Code: | if [ "$NEEDGUNZIP" = "yes" ];then
#w001 ubuntu module-init-tools not configured to support gzipped modules...
gunzip -f -r /lib/modules/${KERNVER}/initrd
fi |
anyway, /lib/modules/${KERNVER}/initrd has beter be eliminated at remastering.
/usr/sbin/remasterpup2 should also be corrected at line 248.
same as woof alpha 9, upup-476, or can be only with upup-476.
thanks
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shinobar

Joined: 28 May 2009 Posts: 2257 Location: Japan
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Posted: Mon 13 Jul 2009, 22:30 Post subject:
drive_all does not eject CD |
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Hi again
/usr/local/bin/drive_all at line 57...
was:
| Code: | | [ "$ONEDRVAME" = "sr0" -o "$ONEDRVAME" = "sr1" ] && eject /dev/$ONEDRVNAME |
should be:
| Code: | | [ "$ONEDRVNAME" = "sr0" -o "$ONEDRVNAME" = "sr1" ] && eject /dev/$ONEDRVNAME |
/usr/sbin/pmount is OK, but the tray closes again too soon.
think needs a dialog to comfirm the medium removed .
i hope CD be also ejected at shutdown.
thanks
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Lobster
Official Crustacean

Joined: 04 May 2005 Posts: 15109 Location: Paradox Realm
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Posted: Mon 13 Jul 2009, 22:57 Post subject:
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I had a brief look at the new database
No pics?
Any data dudes try it?
What you think? Working OK?
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BarryK
Puppy Master

Joined: 09 May 2005 Posts: 6866 Location: Perth, Western Australia
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Posted: Mon 13 Jul 2009, 23:05 Post subject:
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| Lobster wrote: | Booted up this morning from DVD
(so this is the equivalent of the second boot)
Puppy dumped me to the command line
Tried resetting xorg (sometimes the monitor refresh rates are too high)
OK could not get that working (it had been working on both a fresh 'pfix=ram and update from 4.15)
so used xvesa - it is still worthwhile having both
Now had no internet (Ethernet) connection
and when I tried to connect it was not recognizing my Ethernet
and trying to 'load a wifi module'
Little disappointed as I have been using 4.15 (yes a few niggles - but it is an Alpha) as a very stable working day to day OS
So am using 42.1 at the moment to check email, twitter and check the nudes . . . eh news . . .
Just reporting in - a lot of checking seems to have gone into 4.16
but it seems to have been the second boot that did not recognize or acknowledge what was already working - am a bit confused how this might happen . . . |
Ah, so you mean the multisession-dvd, saving sessions to DVD. I haven't tested that for sometime, will do so today.
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BarryK
Puppy Master

Joined: 09 May 2005 Posts: 6866 Location: Perth, Western Australia
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| OlddogNewtricks wrote: | Hi Barry & all,
I've been trying out 'dougalremaster-2.16' from pup 3 to create a 'customized' pup sfs file. At first all looked well apart from the resulting sfs needing a name change which should be an easy fix similar to pup 214R However when I looked at the file size it had grown by 21Mb, that is the zp416516.sfs driver file had been saved as well. I started again this time deleting the zp416516.sfs file before remastering. No change, so I can only assume the entire driver file contents must be loaded into ram at boot & then saved when remastering.
Also tried a pupsave file then deleted zp416516.sfs & rebooted but stuck at xorg, so my personal settings weren't saved making the driver file necessary at every boot.
Doesn't this defeat the object of a seperate driver file. |
dougalremaster is designed for an older version of puppy, it is not at all guaranteed to work in 416. 416 has its own remaster script.
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OlddogNewtricks
Joined: 07 Jun 2009 Posts: 124 Location: U.K.
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Posted: Tue 14 Jul 2009, 04:01 Post subject:
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Getting exatly the same problems I had with pup 2.18. Remaster hangs when looking for files on cd, live CD won't eject after boot up & DHCP (or static settings)won't complete my wireless connection (wired o.k.). Something in or because of this type of build doesn't like my system. Is it me or are others having similar problems.
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shinobar

Joined: 28 May 2009 Posts: 2257 Location: Japan
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Posted: Tue 14 Jul 2009, 07:02 Post subject:
xwin reads comment line in /etc/profile |
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/usr/bin/xwin line 516
wrong:
| Code: | | NEWLANG="`cat /etc/profile | grep "LANG=" | cut -f 2 -d '='`" |
corect:
| Code: | | NEWLANG="`cat /etc/profile | grep '^[ ]*LANG=' | tail -n 1| cut -f 2 -d '='`" |
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cthisbear
Joined: 29 Jan 2006 Posts: 2943 Location: Sydney Australia
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Posted: Tue 14 Jul 2009, 09:16 Post subject:
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" Xvesa video is scrambled. "
Yes, seems a bit of a mess.
So I went back to the command prompt,
typed xwin and it decided to play nice.
and allowed me to set my screensize.
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" I can't say the same about Super Pup, lovable though he may be.
That background is not going to cut it."
I'd rather a bit of fun just for the moment,
the bugs fixed and then a background fix.
Puppy doesn't have to be pretentious.
This isn't a pick at you dogone.
I know where you're coming from.
First impressions etc.
Too many pretentious poser distros in the world.
Great desktop....but the ugliness is inside.
Watch out or Barry will resurrect the bike.
Now that was different...quite like it.
I have gone back over a 100 posts trying to
find some of those Grey Metal backgrounds
that were posted for Puppy 4.2. ????
Was that Zigberts efforts?
Superpup could be always in the release as an extra
candidate wallpaper. Kids may like it...or me.
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Barry:
The player is also a mess...MP3. Won't turn off.
Also doesn't play mp4.
AVI doesn't work.
ttuuxxx has a new one in 2.14x Beta6???
Stops and starts...ttuuxxx, I thank you.
Although his player also needs the run action mp4, avi etc.
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Don't post me any more how tos though ttuuxxx.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=38939&start=135
Most media types should just work out of the box.
I can't find in my emails who fixed this up and sent me
a PM to test it. Sorry I deleted that mail.
WhoDo got him to fix and test it.
Maybe WhoDo still hovers about incognito or you could PM him.
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Sure a lot of noses got put out of joint with Puppy 4.2
and Puppy 4.2.1.
But what about the good publicity?
The number 2 ranking.
The sheer number of people that liked the look.
The features, whether they were pro bling or not.
And the number of postings was incredible.
Some lousy things happened and let's not go back there.
And no we might not get to number 2 or 1 whatever.
But John Biles released Teenpup 2009 Legacy,
extremely high downloads from Softpedia
and then Macpup Opera came along and ousted the main Puppy.
We have arrived.
Your hard work, the input of others, the sheer number of Puplets
has forced the Linux mob to finally see our shadow,
let alone share your vision.
So early days now.
But please do not let us go backwards.
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http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=40158&start=345
" cthisbear wrote:
When you click on a m4a sound file
nothing plays and the run action is asked for.
If you drag a gxine icon it plays.
Can't we have this done by default.
I must reboot and check all the others but I'm sure they all play
but for this format.
I'm pretty sure I set that mime-type for RC4, chris.
cthisbear wrote:
Look not my type of music.
Why not try this site and download one song to test?
Pointless, I'm afraid.
My brand new lappy doesn't have sound support! :cry:
Even tempestuous couldn't help me get a peep out of it!
It works ok from BIOS and in (yech) Vista, but no tweak has
yet succeed for Puppy. I'm mortified because I can't even play
Youtube videos and get any audio! :evil:
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Sound issues.
Just amazing that WhoDo could never get his own laptop to work.
These are the iproblems that need fixing.
I know that it's hardware.
And we are dealing with companies with their own agendas..But!
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Seamonkey shutdowns...caused by Flash????
have they been addressed?
There have been Firefox fixes....
FF is not my favourite,
Seamonkey Pets
Opera Pets
Does this release have workarounds please?
And is Abiword working?
I think this is rectified in Puppy 2.14x v6.
Again...these are basics.
I'm glad that you are not in a screaming hurry.
All the Puplets fill the gaps.
For instance I really love HanSamBen.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=41454
A really fantastic bit of work.
How do I say I don't mean to cause you offense?
You have great gifts and have probably even fixed these issues.
If not can you pen them into you To Do book.
Many thanks..............Chris.
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