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Opera 10 (Qt 4.5.2) & SeaMonkey 2.1 alpha with Flash 10
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jakfish

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PostPosted: Sat 27 Jun 2009, 14:46    Post subject:  

SM Updater works fine with these specs: eee 900/4.1.2/frugal install

A small problem with SM updates: it doesn't appear to delete the previous 2.0 installation. For instance, when I did a puppy save, I lost 14 mbs of space, about the size of the update. Is there a directory I can delete?

Jake
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DaveS


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PostPosted: Sat 27 Jun 2009, 15:09    Post subject:  

jakfish wrote:
SM Updater works fine with these specs: eee 900/4.1.2/frugal install

A small problem with SM updates: it doesn't appear to delete the previous 2.0 installation. For instance, when I did a puppy save, I lost 14 mbs of space, about the size of the update. Is there a directory I can delete?

Jake


Jake........... did you ever think about storing the seamonkey/mozilla stuff OUTSIDE your save file? Try this: Go into your file manager (Rox I guess), and navigate first to /root/, which should be the default opening window. Hit the arrow icon at far left to navigate to /. Click on mnt, then on /home. Leave that window open. Then open another Rox window, this time to /root/, but displaying hidden files. You should see a directory called .mozilla. Drag this directory and drop it into the first window you opened. From the pop-up options, select MOVE. Then repeat the process in the reverse direction, but this time, from the pop-up select LINK ABSOLUTE. Congrats. You just moved .mozilla out of your save file, but Puppy thinks it is still there! Do the same for the seamonkey directory. That will recover your save file space. What is the advantage? If you install another Puppy version alongside the one you have now, you can link mozilla and seamonkey in the same way, which allows you to work with emails etc stored in a central place, but accessible to any distro you load.
With a little bit of creative thinking, you can exploit this ability to all kinds of stuff. Store your files in my-documents? Move them to /mnt/home and symlink! on and on..................

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jakfish

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PostPosted: Sat 27 Jun 2009, 15:13    Post subject:  

Wow, many thanks for these tips. Let me try them out and post back.

Jake
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jakfish

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PostPosted: Sat 27 Jun 2009, 15:52    Post subject:  

DaveS,

That did it. I got about 90mbs back, which is about two SM 2.0's worth. Even though SM and .mozilla reside on a SD, I don't see any decrease in speed.

Many, many thanks,
Jake
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PostPosted: Sat 27 Jun 2009, 16:15    Post subject:  

Ok Jake, brilliant. Now lets look at a little of the power of symlinks. I am guessing, but I guess you are running one of the 4.2 variants. Again, lets guess you have a normal email account, with say, www.crapmail.com. If you set this up originally through seamonkey 1.1.15, it would have built you an email account called say, pop.crapmail.net. When you installed seamonkey 2, presumably you allowed it to import all your email, bookmarks etc? So. You now have your emails in two places, seamonkey 1.1.15, and seamonkey 2. Trouble is, if you access your email via 1.1.15, it will save in a different place to SM2. You see the problem?
So. In /root/, follow the mozilla link, and you can navigate to your 1.1.15 email file. It will be in /root/.mozilla/default/n44rjsz7.slt(or something like)/mail/pop.crapmail.net. Leave the window open.
Now open a new window and navigate to the SM2 imported version. It will be in /root/seamonkey/wthelsu0.default(or similar)/mail/pop.crapmail.net
OK. So rename the SM2 version (its better than deleting coz you can go back) to maybe pop.crapmail1.net. Then drag and drop the 1.1.15 version into the SM2 directory and from the pop-up menu again choose to link.
Congrats. Both versions update and read the SAME email folder!
You can do the same with things like bookmarks (bookmarks.html), in fact anything you like.
If you then decide to dump SM2, you will still have all your email intact.

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jakfish

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PostPosted: Sat 27 Jun 2009, 17:17    Post subject:  

DaveS--

ANOTHER intriguing idea, thank you. The only rub I can think of: at this point in development, SM 2 only allows email access through browser/email. There doesn't appear to be standalone email or addressbook, as there is with 1.1.5.

I do like my little JVM button that brings up email only, and if I'm not mistaken, I won't have the same with SM 2.0 email.

Or have I missed something?

At any rate, I guess I could take on your idea, since your advise is that I can go back and forth between the two SMs, but so far, I don't use SM 2 email.

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PostPosted: Sat 27 Jun 2009, 17:26    Post subject:  

No, you are mostly right, except its only the way they load that is different, they are still two separate units, unlike Opera where mail is built in. Load the browser, and cntrl 2 loads the email interface. I expect it to revert to 1.1.15 like behavior before final release. I dont much like the way it loads either, but the mail unit has such a beautiful interface (theme). In both 1.1.15 and 2, in the mail interface, F9 toggles the folder tree on and off.
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PostPosted: Sun 28 Jun 2009, 02:24    Post subject:  

jakfish wrote:


I do like my little JVM button that brings up email only, and if I'm not mistaken, I won't have the same with SM 2.0 email.

Or have I missed something?


Jake


Edit>Preferences>(click on Appearance) and you can select how Seamonkey loads. Set it to mail & newsgroups and the email prog will load instead of the browser app. In the email client, click the Seamonkey icon top right to load the browser.

If you want, you could then create a little executable script with this code
Code:
~/seamonkey/seamonkey www.google.com

Give it a name like browser.sh or whatever, and attach it to an icon, and then when the icon is clicked, it will load Seamonkey2 with google loaded. You can of course set the page to load as anything you like.

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PostPosted: Sun 28 Jun 2009, 10:01    Post subject:  

Very clean, thank you. The approach has all of Puppy's simplicity. I don't know if you use google calendar/contacts as a conduit to other calendars (the dreaded Outlook, for example), but as I mentioned in an post of this thread, full syncing is possible via google contact add-on in SM 2.0 addressbook and calendar add-on in sunbird.

You've been so helpful, I'd be happy to return the favor. Though when puppy-searched this, I found nothing about gcal or google calendar so this may an arcane issue for puppy users.

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PostPosted: Sun 28 Jun 2009, 10:46    Post subject:  

jakfish wrote:


You've been so helpful,

Jake


Its the Puppy way.............. Smile

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DespMike

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PostPosted: Sun 28 Jun 2009, 15:58    Post subject: Turbopup
Subject description: Download iso
 

Hi, dear synth and friends,
could you please post a download-link for the last/latest version of your turbopup ?
I haven't found one and think turbopup would be ideal for my PII 233Mhz/512Mb Ram.
Being a complete linux-analphabet an iso with seamonkey would be of most use.
I state that as there are probably many around with an older computer who would love to have a lightning fast linux with internet etc., but are not technically as gifted (myslef included) to go through the assembly of a "full" version.
BTW the install to hard disk which requires grub etc. config is quite complicated - in fact I abandoned it - an automated install to harddisk would be great.
Best Greetings, congrats to and thanks for all these amazing efforts
Michael
PS: Hope not having been too much off topic
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noabody

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PostPosted: Mon 29 Jun 2009, 15:09    Post subject:  

My P133 64MB laptop doesn't work well with Puppy 4.2 so I'm using 3.01. This is the error message for Puppy Linux version 3:
ERROR: ld.so: object 'libjvm.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored.
ERROR: ld.so: object 'libawt.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored.
./opera: line 363 3381 illegal instruction "$OPERA_BINARYDIR/opera" "$@"

I understand that $ precedes an environment variable but I'm not all that familiar with Linux variables and don't know what @ signifies.

It works great on the Puppy 4.2 computers.
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dalderton

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PostPosted: Wed 01 Jul 2009, 04:13    Post subject:  

I have downloaded the Opera pet but the only way it will work is to start it from a terminal.Running startopera does not work.I am using 4.2
The Seamonkey works fine but it seems that Fast Dial does not work with this version. This is a shame,has anyone got any thoughts on this.
Thanks for the efforts Regards Dennis
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edoc


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PostPosted: Wed 01 Jul 2009, 23:29    Post subject:  

synth wrote:
Coming Soon - Special packages of Opera 10 and SeaMonkey 2 :

- A tweaked build of Opera 10 Unite with Qt 4.5.2 libs.

- A newer build of SeaMonkey 2 bundled with Flash 10.


This thread is really confusing because posters failed to note when they were referring to the new Opera or or the new Seamonkey.

Does the most-current version of Seamonkey 2.0 include Flash 10 or does it not, please?

If Flash 10 is included is it stable under 4.2.0 and 4.2.1?

If not included is there a PET for it?

Do Seamonkey and Flash 10 remain stable after adding Flash 10?

Thanks!

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PostPosted: Thu 02 Jul 2009, 04:19    Post subject:  

Disregard my previous post.Went back to Opera today and clicked "startopera" and away it went. Odd!!!
Regards Dennis.
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