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TEENpup 2009 Legacy available for Download
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puppyluvr
 Joined: 06 Jan 2008 Posts: 3052 Location: Chickasha Oklahoma |
 Hello,
@Hey John, Congrats on the reception Teenpup `09 is receiving!!! #1 D/L on Softpedia!!! |
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Mic67
Joined: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 478 |
@Hey John, Congrats on the reception Teenpup `09 is receiving!!! #1 D/L on Softpedia!!! ------------------- When you get to a certain age you find it important to let people know what you think!! Good Job....much appreciated. Objective sufficently achieved. Mic67 |
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TheProphet
Joined: 18 Feb 2008 Posts: 173 |
Cool. I've already got TEENpup 2008 installed but have been using 2009 for the past few days. I especially was happy that my mostest favorite game of all time is installed by default, Minesweeper. How do I install it as a "version upgrade" which I've not done on Puppy yet? Point me to the tutorial. (I know there is one) This one is a contender that will blow Windoze' s--errr "Stuff" in the weeds. I can see absolutely nothing the Win users usually complain about. Molte Bravissimo. And I take it that it won't install readily on SCSI... _________________ He who skydive without parachute, jumps to own conclusion. |
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john biles
 Joined: 17 Sep 2006 Posts: 1323 Location: Australia |
Hello richard.a, Thank you for all the testing you've done, it must have taken hours! It shows that TEENpup only suits a number of PC's and Laptops out there. I have a 2001 Compaq Presario 1200 with 800Mhz Pentium III and TEENpup works fine on that. It saddens me to see all those Users who are having downloaded TEENpup and it doesn't work on their PC's. I know I'm not alone as some of the Big names in Linux haven't worked on my equipment either. Hello TheProphet, As TEENpup 2009 Legacy is still based on Puppy 2.14 like TEENpup 2008 was, it may be not upgradeable. you may have to save your important files on an external Hard drive or another partition and wipe 2008 and install 2009. If someone has a better trick for this please let us know. _________________ Legacy OS 2 Released! Install me on a new! EXT2 Partition with 500Mb of swap and I'll be happy. 
Legacy OS 4 Released! Install to newer legacy hardware / early EeePC's |
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richard.a
 Joined: 15 Aug 2006 Posts: 510 Location: Adelaide, South Australia |
Post reserved for comments. What I'm doing is to attempt to install on another machine and then copy the files to the machine with SATA drives. Then provide the files as a web download. Puppy will normally work this way - with copying between IDE drives because of the magnificently simple configuration procedure. I do it all the time. I have also done it with ver 9.3 SuSE (with its YaST configurator) and Linspire 4.5, 5.0 and 5.1 extremely successfully, all because of user-friendly re-configuration, of which the Linspire one is the easiest. You merely pick a menu item in Grub 
It works between IDE computers in both the pup_save and the install type 2 to partition modes. It may take a couple of days. Keep you posted. Richard _________________ Have you noticed editing is always needed for the inevitable typos that weren't there when you hit the "post" button?  |
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davesurrey
Joined: 05 Aug 2008 Posts: 1201 Location: UK |
From an initial first view it seems that this is a very fine distro for which many thanks John. However it's clear in this thread that a fair few are having problems installing it. For the record I don't have any SATA HDDs nor DVD/CDs. But I have tried 5 times to do a frugal install to different partitions and have only had 2 successes. I confirm that I haven't tried using a psubdir as I understand it doesn't work. For the record I have had no trouble installing Puppy 214X (ttuuxxx's revised 214R) nor any other puppy on this PC. I could only get it working if I used a partition without any other puppy and using the following grub stanza.
After each re-boot I get "Useful Tips" which I can disengage but also PDrive (Puppy Drive Manager) always comes up at the start. Is there a sway of stopping this. Personally I find it annoying. Cheers Dave |
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richard.a
Joined: 15 Aug 2006 Posts: 510 Location: Adelaide, South Australia |
Dave, interesting post. And I guess the key is that "one size fits all" doesn't work with Puppy. Come to think of it, it doesn't work with other *nixes either.
Interesting you put this line in... rootnoverify (hd1,4) - I've only ever seen that used in a Windows or a DOS environment. Saying that, I believe that a frugal install has to be in a FAT partition, from memory. Perhaps that's why you have the line in there?
In my exploration of Live running in those several boxes, I saw it happen, too, but not on every instance. I wish I'd made a note of it, now. Sorry. When I can get back on to this I'll try several type 2 installs on those various boxes, but this will entail resizing partitions to allow that to happen. It all takes time, though. Someone asked about dotpups and dotpets. I tried one of each, because based on 2.14 it should. And the two I tried (live) work well. Forget which they were. But it's probably quicker to try and report that it does work, than wait and see if someone picks the question up. Not being picky, because I've also asked. If you try it live in a pfix=ram environment, it doesn't matter if you break it
Richard _________________ Have you noticed editing is always needed for the inevitable typos that weren't there when you hit the "post" button? |
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davesurrey
Joined: 05 Aug 2008 Posts: 1201 Location: UK |
Hello Richard, Thanks for your post.
Yes, totally agree with you but Teenpup and also ttuuxxx's 214X have started my interest in the older puppies and both these seem so good that I really would like to understand them (including their limitations) so I can install over a range of PCs.
No, I understand that whereas a frugal install can be to a FAT partition it doesn't have to be and ext2 and ext3 are equally as good (some would say better.) I have plenty of examples working on my PC here.
Well it also works just using "root" in place of "rootnoverify" but I usually use the latter for all my frugal grub stanzas. And the 4-series manual uses rootnoverify for a frugal install (root for a full install.) Perhaps it's just my habit. Good luck with your testing on all those older PCs. Cheers Dave |
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Artie
 Joined: 04 Oct 2005 Posts: 424 Location: Norway |
I have been reading through this thread and I'm very impressed by the quality of the latest teenpup. Since I'm a distro junkie in my experience installing any distro is gambling and many of the big ones can't be installed or don't work properly on my machine. I'm also very impressed with the testing richard.a has done and he has some very good points. I'm especially interested in 24hour clock and the locale setting. John, may I suggest that you start a new thread calling it "TEENpup 2009 Legacy FAQ" or something similar where you address some of these questions and provide suggestions for solving them? Keep up the good work! Artie |
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john biles
Joined: 17 Sep 2006 Posts: 1323 Location: Australia |
Hello davesurrey, If open the hidden file .xinitrc in the root (home) folder and navigate to:
and put a # in front of any of these lines you can turn off what you don't want. wavplay /usr/share/audio/2barks.wav & = Sound at startup /usr/bin/karamba & = Starts karamba side panel /usr/local/pdrive/pdrive_daemon & = Starts pdrive's daemon /opt/kde/bin/ktip & = Starts ktip TEENpup's tips /usr/bin/amor & = Little cat at bottom of screen so if wanted to turn off all of them it would look like this: #wavplay /usr/share/audio/2barks.wav & #/usr/bin/karamba & #/usr/local/pdrive/pdrive_daemon & #/opt/kde/bin/ktip & #/usr/bin/amor & I hope this helps
_________________ Legacy OS 2 Released! Install me on a new! EXT2 Partition with 500Mb of swap and I'll be happy.
Legacy OS 4 Released! Install to newer legacy hardware / early EeePC's |
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davesurrey
Joined: 05 Aug 2008 Posts: 1201 Location: UK |
Hello John, Thank you for reply which was very helpful. Unfortunately I can't put it into practise as I am struggling to get TeenPup to install on my test PC. I have got it working before (and have ttuuxxx's 214x installed okay) but it seems 2 series based Puppys are a lot harder to get running than the 4 series I "grew up" on. Not giving up as TeenPup really does look so good so reading through the forum for help. Thanks again for the help. Dave |
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ttuuxxx
 Joined: 05 May 2007 Posts: 10720 Location: Ontario Canada,Sydney Australia |
Hi Dave did you try the 4 series grub pet package I put together on the 2.14.1X thread? http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?mode=attach&id=19435 ttuuxxx _________________ http://audio.online-convert.com/ <-- excellent site http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games
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davesurrey
Joined: 05 Aug 2008 Posts: 1201 Location: UK |
ttuuxxx, Gosh you are here and there and everywhere. Just finished a message to you on your 214X thread.
No, haven't used this yet. What does it do? I don't want to change my MBR and the existing grub I have been using for months and months seems perfectly fine and besides there are issues with Puppy's grub and inodes. But if you can let me know what this does, what are the improvements/changes then I can judge what to do. Reading the forum I am finding out that having two versions of 2-series save-files may cause problems. Investigating this now. Looking for a work around to keep 214X and teenpup files in sub folders, just like 4 series. Not going to give up. Must be mad!
Cheers Dave |
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ttuuxxx
Joined: 05 May 2007 Posts: 10720 Location: Ontario Canada,Sydney Australia |
Well you said you were having install issues, so that pet is the updated installer/grub from 4 series, still in the testing phase for 2 series and probably better to use it on your test pc. ttuuxxx _________________ http://audio.online-convert.com/ <-- excellent site http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games
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davesurrey
Joined: 05 Aug 2008 Posts: 1201 Location: UK |
Just to be clear does that modify not just the grub-installer but the Puppy universal installer as well? If it does then I'll certainly give it a try. If not then I doubt it can help as I don't need to install grub at each puppy install to boot. Dave |
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