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PostPosted: Thu 04 Jun 2009, 09:41    Post_subject:  
Sub_title: Puppy Bling**? - Turn on the lights or you'll be stuck in the darkages...
 

I'm sorry. I've been reading my way all the way through this topic and I just cannot believe that there are people out there who make an issue out of a nicer looking Puppy. I have been using Puppy for about 7 months now since my Windows machine nearly died from one too many 'updates' from its mothership and I wanted a small but reliable linux distro to replace it with.
When I first started to use puppy, I almost immediatly wanted to run away. It looked horrible*, like something from the early 90's that had got lost in a time capsual and was put on the internet for a laugh. However after a few tweaks to its looks so I could deal with it, I fell in love. The fast processing, the huge selection of programs and the nice and simple pet packaging system made me stay. When I finally got around to upgrading to puppy 4.1 I was extremely happy with the improved user interface, and after installing and running the pwidgets and icewm, I realised that it could look good and was customisable to a point where I felt that I could proudly show my friends my computer that made XP look outdated. (See pic below). I don't have a fancy machine, just a standard laptop thats about 5 years old. It runs puppy fine, 'bling**' and all.

I understand if you want something that looks like its from the 80's but if you're going to keep complaining that it doesn't look how you want then either do what I did and customise it yourself or find another distro. Its not that hard to do, and if you're as computer savy as you try to make out you are then you should have no problem making it look how you think puppy should. (ie make your own puplet.)
Now please, can we all stop criticising each other and this distro or it could end up killing it altogether. I love this distro and I think that it can only get better, and if gettting better means improving how it looks then I say bring it on! Vistah eat our dust! We're faster, more powerful and can even rival you on looks. Don't mess with this Puppy cause its got Bite!

*Puppy 2.x
** I personally dislike the word 'bling' to describe puppy's eye candy. Bling is horrible gold/diamond/silver jewlrey worn in excess by wanna-be gansters and chavs. Puppy linux's eyecandy does not fit this description. It is simple and elegent yet bold enough to make a statement and look good along side more traditional distros such as Windows, Mac and Ubuntu.

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PostPosted: Thu 04 Jun 2009, 09:50    Post_subject:  

The OP is a troll, plain and simple. Any reply that speaks to the OP speaks to nothing other that the OPs satisfaction they gained a response.

Well done to the OP.

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PostPosted: Thu 04 Jun 2009, 09:55    Post_subject:  

Dont you just wish Trolls knew about soap? Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu 04 Jun 2009, 16:20    Post_subject:
Sub_title: Puppy Bling**? - Turn on the lights or you'll be stuck in the darkages...
 

historymaker118 wrote:
I realised that it could look good and was customisable to a point where I felt that I could proudly show my friends my computer that made XP look outdated. (See pic below).

I absolutely LOVE the icons, Bec! Have they been packaged for Puppy or do you have a tarball? I'd enjoy making a Dingo-compatible theme from them if one doesn't already exist!

The reason this gets to be such a touchy subject is that people sometimes forget the "Personal" in "Personal Computer" (another sort of PC, DaveS Very Happy ). I guess the OP felt the latest version infringed too much on the "Personal" part of his computing experience. I think he gets it now, from a strategic viewpoint.

Although Puppy's looks are a source of "Personal" pride for me, I don't mind if someone doesn't like the same look as me; just as long as there is room for them to make it suit themselves I'm happy. Good points, Bec.

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PostPosted: Thu 04 Jun 2009, 17:02    Post_subject:  

WhoDo is right Bex, those icons are brilliant. Never seen so many cross-eyed penguins, even though I am an optician Very Happy Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri 05 Jun 2009, 03:08    Post_subject:    

I don't quite understand the OP's sentiment that the glitter is a "bug," to be honest. Extra adornment? Arguably.

Some of the "bling," as it's been phrased, kinda looked gaudy to me, like the fake analogue clock, but others I quite like, like the battery meter. I usually hide the taskbar, so having that monitor visible on the desktop is quite nice. The basic idea is sound, in my mind.
What annoys me far more than the widgets is the Ptray. For some reason, I just hate it, and I wish it destroyed on my system.

Really, though, 4.2.0, which I have on a flash drive (but 4.1.2 on my T22), is much better. 4.1.2 always told me that my built-in modem could be used when using the dial-up wizard, then froze the system, but the 4.2.0 live-CD just said, more or less, "Sorry- no can do," with no ill effects- a major improvement from before.
The only trouble I've had at all so far are some issues with Remaster Express (or is it Remax?) detecting the live-CD, but I won't say too much on that until I've tried it in 4.2.1 in a few days.

Otherwise, it's a very good system indeed, still outperforming pretty much everything else I've used for a friendly desktop. Thanks are due to everyone involved. Puppy Linux is a brilliant OS, including 4.2.
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PostPosted: Fri 05 Jun 2009, 03:50    Post_subject:
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I absolutely LOVE the icons, Bec! Have they been packaged for Puppy or do you have a tarball? I'd enjoy making a Dingo-compatible theme from them if one doesn't already exist!


Hey WhoDo, I based this look off an icon set I saw when going through KDE-look.org, I already had the wallpaper and I thought that these icons would look nice with it. I then combined them with another smaller tux icon set (which I can't remember where i got them sorry) to create this look.
However I am not using them as normal icons in the picture I posted, but they are a pair of wbars that I use. I like being able to quickly access my most common programs easily and the fun mac-style jumping off the page makes my desktop feel 'alive'.

http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=13025

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PostPosted: Fri 05 Jun 2009, 06:17    Post_subject:
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historymaker118 wrote:
Hey WhoDo, I based this look off an icon set I saw when going through KDE-look.org,

Thanks for the link, Bec. Seems like it might be too old though as I get a link target not found error when trying to download. Never mind. They'll turn up somewhere again, I guess. Confused

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PostPosted: Fri 05 Jun 2009, 08:29    Post_subject: Wow.......  

A troll, huh? Wow sikpuppy......you've got more shoot-from-the-hip than I do, and I'm pretty outspoken! Just remember, attacking the speaker instead of their ideas makes the attacker look small, as though they are incapable of debating ideas. I'm not accusing you of this, as this is something we see every day on TV, and it's easy to fall into, I'm just saying that this is the impression a lot of people give when they do exactly that. BTW, thanks for sticking up for me, WhoDo. I guess we're still friends. Very Happy

BTW, everybody, my limitless mirror is up, and if you have a server you want mirrored, just email or PM me and I'll make you FTP creds and a folder. It's here: http://www.silverdollarsolutions.com/PuppyLinux/

If historymaker would like to REALLY make my day, he'll post that desktop wallpaper as an attachment to his next post. Very Happy Please, please? I love that penguin.......

Speak of which, we need some graphics person to make us a default wallpaper of Tux hugging our Puppy mascot. Any volunteers?
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PostPosted: Fri 05 Jun 2009, 12:09    Post_subject: Re: Wow.......  

SilverPuppy wrote:

If historymaker would like to REALLY make my day, he'll post that desktop wallpaper as an attachment to his next post. :D Please, please? I love that penguin.......


I gather that "his" name is Rebecca ...
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PostPosted: Fri 05 Jun 2009, 12:21    Post_subject: Re: Wow.......  

mcewanw wrote:
SilverPuppy wrote:

If historymaker would like to REALLY make my day, he'll post that desktop wallpaper as an attachment to his next post. Very Happy Please, please? I love that penguin.......


I gather that "his" name is Rebecca ...


Silverpuppy having a bad day?

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PostPosted: Fri 05 Jun 2009, 13:14    Post_subject:  Re: Wow.......  

DaveS wrote:
mcewanw wrote:
SilverPuppy wrote:

If historymaker would like to REALLY make my day, he'll post that desktop wallpaper as an attachment to his next post. Very Happy Please, please? I love that penguin.......


I gather that "his" name is Rebecca ...


Silverpuppy having a bad day?


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Here's the wallpaper! But I'm not sure it will fit your 'retro' themed puppy. After all it is 'bling'...
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PostPosted: Fri 05 Jun 2009, 14:38    Post_subject: Ooops, sorry  

Sorry, Rebecca........

No, I wasn't having a bad day, I just don't usually read those footers/signatures/whatever they are, and didn't see your real name was there. Now that I was prompted to look, I see and oops. I also embrace my inner geek, BTW. Very Happy Very cute little slogan.

Thanks for the picture post, you posted it while I was typing this, so I'm just editing it in. And even old farty ME doesn't consider desktop wallpaper pictures bling. Very Happy Although I do recognize that in extreme cases of low resources, they can be omitted to same just a little more RAM.

Anybody want to make that Tux hugging the Puppy wallpaper? That's "bling" I'd LOVE to include in future Puppy releases, preferably as the default wallpaper. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu 25 Jun 2009, 02:55    Post_subject:  

@SilverPuppy:

You should try Turbopup:

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=318898

Even though it's an alpha release, it's extremely stable and much lighter than the no-bling version of 4.2.1. It's even faster than the original 4.0 series.

Try it,you'll love it Smile

Coming Soon: Turbopup Beta 1 (a huge update)
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PostPosted: Thu 25 Jun 2009, 09:41    Post_subject:  Well then!  

Wow, that looks so cool! I'd love a single-digit idle RAM usage Puppy! I'll be sure to check it out. Thanks for the tip!
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