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Should we change rox to other more beautiful ones... ?SOLVED
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Master_wrong

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PostPosted: Fri 29 May 2009, 11:00    Post_subject:  Should we change rox to other more beautiful ones... ?SOLVED
Sub_title: the answer is noooooo....... 3 person voted yes and 16 person voted no
 

I just browsing for filemanager that i stumbled this :

http://pcmanfm.sourceforge.net/

not just beautiful it also small
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=156956&package_id=175349&release_id=613829

even smaller than rox filer
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=7023&package_id=7131

I thought why don't we use pcmanager so we can reduce space and also improve user experience ?

thank you

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PostPosted: Fri 29 May 2009, 11:55    Post_subject:  

i voted 'no', even though i think the pcman looks and sounds good

has it been tested by anyone here?

rox works well, it is a known quantity

also, requirements, does puppy already have these?

* automake >= 1.9
* libgtk2.0-dev >= 2.6
* libglib2.0-dev >= 2.6 (2.10+ is highly recommended)
* libgamin-dev or libfam-dev (libgamin is better)
* libstartup-notification0-dev
* libhal-dev (Required when --enable-hal configure option is used)
* libdbus-1-dev (Required when --enable-hal configure option is used)
* libhal-storage-dev (Required when --enable-hal configure option is used)

if so, good, if not, then that increases the size

i recognize a couple of them, but i'm not good on knowing my libs...

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PostPosted: Fri 29 May 2009, 12:46    Post_subject:  

Rox isn't just a filemanager, its also a pinboard, Rox is a Desktop Environment, Theres only about 15 or so different "Desktop Environment" for linux, like Gnome,kde, etc
here's a link, http://xwinman.org/otherdesktops.php
by far Rox is the lightest for what you get out of it, plus its stable as heck.
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PostPosted: Fri 29 May 2009, 13:28    Post_subject:  

@bugman
Quote:
i voted 'no', even though i think the pcman looks and sounds good

has it been tested by anyone here?


thank you for the slight positif tone of your "nay !" answer, I hope someone will try these on their puplet then.

@ttuxx
thank for the info, i didn't realize that... but in case we want to use it, could we remove rox filer or could we use other like aewm : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aewm

or ude
http://udeproject.sourceforge.net/index.shtml

I'm looking at this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desktop_environment
and i cannot find aewm too
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PostPosted: Fri 29 May 2009, 13:32    Post_subject:  

I voted no. Rox works and it is light weight.

I see no point in change just for the sake of change.
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PostPosted: Fri 29 May 2009, 14:30    Post_subject:  

Master_wrong wrote:
I hope someone will try these on their puplet then.


well, i was sorta hoping you would say that you had tried it, actually...

otherwise, how is anyone to know?

can i expect to see a pet in this thread soon?

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PostPosted: Fri 29 May 2009, 15:45    Post_subject:  

Hi there,

ttuuxxx has some good points in his post. We do get plenty of bang for byte out of Rox.

I think MU uses pcmanfm in NYP, but Rox is there. It lokks nice and works well.

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PostPosted: Fri 29 May 2009, 15:47    Post_subject:  

It's kind of ridiculous to ask people to vote on something they never heard of before they have a chance to try it out. Confused

Can pcman do batch file rename? That's one of the very useful things Rox does that no other file manager can, at least that I know of. And that includes Windows.

If the only reason you want to change is looks, well, count me out.
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PostPosted: Fri 29 May 2009, 15:51    Post_subject:  

I thing is good keep ROX as filemanager, only, I suggest upgrade ROX to latest release
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PostPosted: Fri 29 May 2009, 18:27    Post_subject:  

Voted no as well. I use Pcmanager in Unnamed so I have tried it. It's not that pretty. Something different maybe, but I don't see what's wrong with Rox.
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PostPosted: Fri 29 May 2009, 20:14    Post_subject:  

I think some people like the 2 pane file managers... tree on the left and working directory on the right.

I wonder, can Rox be configured to do that?

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PostPosted: Fri 29 May 2009, 22:30    Post_subject:  

Quote:

I think MU uses pcmanfm in NYP, but Rox is there. It lokks nice and works well.


i think this is the pcmanfm ?
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?search_id=1527791096&t=25699

is this puplet has pcmanager ?
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=39154

thank you
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PostPosted: Sat 30 May 2009, 06:39    Post_subject:  

Rox works well and is lightweight, but is not particulaly "friendly to linux newbies" as it lack a hierarchical "tree view" style navigation. This makes it very difficult for new users coming over from windows to discover the linux filesystem layout. Rox as a desktop environment, with XFE or FileMaker as a file manager would be a much more suitable for Puppies target audience.
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PostPosted: Sat 30 May 2009, 07:19    Post_subject:  

ecomoney wrote:
Rox works well and is lightweight, but is not particulaly "friendly to linux newbies" as it lack a hierarchical "tree view" style navigation. This makes it very difficult for new users coming over from windows to discover the linux filesystem layout. Rox as a desktop environment, with XFE or FileMaker as a file manager would be a much more suitable for Puppies target audience.


yet somehow, i and so many other 'newbies' figured it out

[weary of the patronizing]

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PostPosted: Sat 30 May 2009, 07:46    Post_subject:  

or can we have these 3D desktop into puppy ?
bumptop

http://bumptop.com/features.php

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interesting but looks complicated
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