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Re: From a newbee, making Puppy better

#136 Post by SelftaughtGeek »

Eathray wrote:I had a heck of a time getting my sound card to work. I tried one thing after another, and, being a newbee, did not understand most of what I was trying. I read and read and read some more, but so much what I was looking at was utterly foreign.

Eth
I know what you mean by understanding what you are doing - glad my hardware all worked out of the box, I don't mind fiddling but most of what I am reading is a new language to me. GRUB still eludes me and I am sure I could improve my boot up options if I understood it properly.

I'm also sure I can find a way to put the current keyboard language flag in the tray if I try hard enough.

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#137 Post by Aitch »

puppyite

done - good call


all - re: earlier comments about software, see these linux-windoze equivalent softwares

http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Lin ... s_software

http://www.linuxalt.com/

If puppy hasn't got anything you need/fancy trying, often asking on the forum will yield results, even getting a .pet made....

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Re: From a newbee, making Puppy better

#138 Post by ttuuxxx »

SelftaughtGeek wrote:
Eathray wrote:I had a heck of a time getting my sound card to work. I tried one thing after another, and, being a newbee, did not understand most of what I was trying. I read and read and read some more, but so much what I was looking at was utterly foreign.

Eth
I know what you mean by understanding what you are doing - glad my hardware all worked out of the box, I don't mind fiddling but most of what I am reading is a new language to me. GRUB still eludes me and I am sure I could improve my boot up options if I understood it properly.

I'm also sure I can find a way to put the current keyboard language flag in the tray if I try hard enough.

STG
Which language are you looking for, there are help sections for different languages.
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Keyboard layout

#139 Post by SelftaughtGeek »

I'm also sure I can find a way to put the current keyboard language flag in the tray if I try hard enough.

STG[/quote]

Which language are you looking for, there are help sections for different languages.
ttuuxxx[/quote]

Hi ttuuxxx
I use English and French character sets all the time so it is useful to toggle between the two within a document. I worked out how to set up the two keyboards using the Xorg advanced settings. I can toggle between the two using the keyboard - I just wanted to see a little flag in the bottom tray to make toggling easier than keyboard keys and to have a visual guide to the current setting. I can live with it as it is but always want perfection Lol

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#140 Post by ttuuxxx »

Hi you can get a fench version of puppy at http://www.moulinier.net/
That might be easier :)
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#141 Post by Aitch »

ttuuxxx

I think what is needed is a puppy version of this kde tip

http://raviratlami1.blogspot.com/2006/1 ... guage.html

http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/debian ... s-fly.html

'that other OS' manages it easily........so, there's a challenge!

I'm sure others would find this useful too

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#142 Post by ecomoney »

Very useful, for example.... a puppy cybercafe at a seaport :wink:

The command from a terminal would be setxkbmap.

If you were to use Icewm as a window manager (an option thanks to Ttuuxxx in puppy 4.2.1) then it has a (nicely designed) popup shortcut menu between the "Puppy 4.2" start button and the taskbar. Its possible to add an extra popup here by editing the /usr/share/icewm/preferences file. Make two bash scripts, running the setxkbmap commands you want, and call them from this new preferences menu. In order to refresh the icewm graphics if you want the icon to change, you will need to know the bash command for restarting icewm too.
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Puppy 4 Keyboard Language

#143 Post by SelftaughtGeek »

Thanks Aitch yes I think you understand what I want.
Not a French version of Puppy – though that would be interesting in its own right, but the ability to be able to switch keyboard maps in the middle of a document from one language to another. I often work with English and French translation documents and sometime Spanish.

In Windows I simply add the keyboard layouts I want to my computer then when I want to switch there is Language ICON in the System tray, Click it and you get a list of keyboard maps available to select. Select the one you want and the Icon indicates the language. EN for English, FR for French etc.

Also doing the this sets the language for the application being used at the time, so I can have one document open in a window where the language is set to English and another one where the language is set to French, making document comparisons and changes easy.

Ecomoney, I’m afraid I haven’t discovered ICEwm yet and have no idea what a Bash command is.

Thanks for all your advice
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#144 Post by Aitch »

STG

Perhaps it's a sufficiently good idea to merit it's own thread...
Entitled: Suggestion/Request for Language Switcher Widget....maybe??
link here to there and there to here for googlebot :wink:

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Re: Puppy 4 Keyboard Language

#145 Post by ttuuxxx »

SelftaughtGeek wrote: Ecomoney, I’m afraid I haven’t discovered ICEwm yet and have no idea what a Bash command is.

Thanks for all your advice
STG
Icewm is a window manager, like JWM, But Icewm has nicer graphic because it uses images while JWM uses gradients.
I'm one of the pro's when it comes to icewm, This was my last package I made up, just install it and restart X-server, there are a few themes included in the menu :)
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#146 Post by SelftaughtGeek »

Aitch wrote:STG

Perhaps it's a sufficiently good idea to merit it's own thread...
Entitled: Suggestion/Request for Language Switcher Widget....maybe??
link here to there and there to here for googlebot :wink:

Aitch :)
Ok if you think it's that good an idea I will

Question - where is the right place in the forum to post it?
How do I make the links for Googlebot?

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#147 Post by Aitch »

STG

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/postin ... wtopic&f=5

Make the post request, stating which puppy version and type of install it is for & that this is needed now, not for a future addition to the next release,

.....although it might be a good idea if it was included.......

If someone can do a .pet or script, as suggested, instead of a widget, that would do, I think

put a link to this forum thread in the post, e. g.

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... &start=135

[make the link active by clicking the url button above the post window screen / top right]

Copy that post's url link. Then come back to this thread and post that thread url link here, OK?

Should get some attention :D

Easy :wink:

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#148 Post by SelftaughtGeek »

Thanks Aitch

Posted as suggested, though haven't got the hang of the links yet

Link below is to a new request to add a keyboard map switcher and flag to Puppy4 so that it is simple to switch keyboard languages / layouts in each window

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 275#342275

STG
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#149 Post by Aitch »

In order to get the url links to work, click edit for your last post

Add a line of explanation, so people who haven't followed this, know why it's there, then move the & onto the same actual line as the real url link, leaving no spaces like this

Real URL

OK?

You'll need to edit the other thread, too, btw

It's good, well done

When you come to do your frugal install, which isn't hard, first do a chkdsk & defrag of your windoze hard drive, then you could go as far as making a couple of partitions, one for puppy files and one as a swap file
[Not absolutely necessary, but worth the effort, as sometimes windoze will delete puppy files, at bootup/shutdown chkdsk, thinking they are corrupt windoze files]
Putting puppy files in their own partition instead of windoze C:\ drive prevents this
edit: sorry was editing and you posted first :lol:

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#150 Post by SelftaughtGeek »

All done Aitch

Once again thanks for the help and advice

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#151 Post by Aitch »

STG

see edit, sorry I didn't highlight the changes...added this in case you hadn't spotted the edits

Aitch :)

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#152 Post by puppyite »

Aitch wrote:... then move the & onto the same actual line as the real url link, leaving no spaces like this

Real URL
I may misunderstand you but: When I write a post I must do the following to create a link:

Code: Select all

I start with:

[url=][/url]

Then I do this:

[url=http://www.address.com/page.htm]Web Site Link Text or address[/url]
No other method works for me.

Edit: I guess it doesn't matter since STG made it work.

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#153 Post by Aitch »

puppyite wrote:

Code: Select all

[url=http://www.address.com/page.htm]Web Site Link Text or address[/url]
Yes, that's why your scroogle scaper link shows as scroogle, and mine as http://www.scroogle.org/cgi-bin/scraper.htm
Although both function with the same resultant link, I think yours is neater, but some people don't like 'unknown' links, because of re-directer spammers, e.g. your word 'scroogle' could link anywhere not just to scroogle link & who would know?

So I use the basic [visible link] method
Just highlight a URL & hit the button, making sure the boxes are in the same line, with no spaces between the link and url boxes

For the same reason I always use the preview version of TinyURL when I use that for long URL links

Aitch :)

puppyite

#154 Post by puppyite »

Aitch,
I would like to shed light on some misconceptions:

If you examine my example code closely you will see that just like you I also specified that the URL *could* be the visible link text.

Whether text or URL is used for the visible link the actual address becomes visible in the browser status bar when you mouse over the link.

The address that appears in the browser status bar *can* be obfuscated via JavaScript but AFAIK this would not be possible in a forum post. Well I don't know how and I surely wouldn't try.

Finally and most confusingly it is *possible* for the visible link to misrepresent the URL. I.E. the visible link is: http://yahoo.com but the link really points to http://malefactor.com

I offer this only in the interest of clarity and I hope you don't think I'm trying to dispute what you say because you have been very gracious to me. :)

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#155 Post by SelftaughtGeek »

In case anyone else was following my thread about keyboard maps follow this link

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 683#342683

ttuuxxx made a pet that does exactly what I wanted - fantastic and the country flags are soooo cute.

STG
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