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I was impressed with the speed of the latest opera builds with qt4.5 so I went in search of a QT (only QT no kde libs) window manager and this was what I got.

here are the downloads

All QT4 libs are packaged separately here:
http://puppylinux.asia/members/T/QT-4.5.2/ puppy:linux for user:password

and finally Antico 0.2 (requires libQt{Core,DBus,Xml,Gui})
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... h&id=18434
exit to prompt and known issues:
some menu entries get lost - similar to lxde and other wm in various puplets - this is AFAIK due to non-standard menu entries
I had issues with getting folders on the desktop - programs went fine however

here is a stock shot
screenshot

Do you have a good QT filer to go with it?
Why do you particularly want a QT wm?
To get rid of GTK we would need at least a word processor, spreadsheets, drawing program(s) and CD/DVD burner, but it seems to me that there aren't good QT-only options for some of these things - they tend to require KDE

Variety is the spice of life, besides I like the speed, flexibility and portability of QT - I am looking at getting something for each category from qt-apps. There are many programs that can compile against QT vs GTK such as vlc, webkit and others that are IMHO best in class for speed & size.

i think it would be intreresting to have qt based puppy, although it needs to find good apps
smplayer should be mentioned also

Yes its a nice idea in theory, however so many core puppy programs are based on gtkdialog that it would be very difficult to go completely QT. I don't know of any drop-in replacement for gtkdialog... that would eliminate most of the wizards and several other programs that start with p. The wizards could mostly be converted to bash+xdialog, but we are talking about a lot of time for a lesser quality program... not something I would want to do. Perhaps the 2 wm style approach in 4.2 is a more realistic goal.

I have already found quite a selection of the other QT programs at qt-apps and also included in the QT-4.5.1 source tarball

Intersting, nice work. It can be combinated with opera shared libs (smaller size) and also with transmission since 1.6 has qt client. Now lets start the search for other qt apps.

The only think I don't like with qt is that isn't GPL

Why is LGPL so much worse than GPL?

smplayer should be mentioned also

Nah - if we had QT we might as well use VLC, which is now QT and has:
1. A better interface (I think)
2. Better DVD support
3. Better VCD support
4. Better support for various other things

just for comparison here is qlwm compiled against qt-4.5.2

the config files are in /root/.qlwm

requires only qtcore and qtgui (same as opera10)

I just added QTCommander as a File Manager to 1st post. The QT4 version is not available as a tarball - development only but it seems ok for testing.

Opera is available as a browser, but I also have a < 5mb pet that has the QT Webkit Browser (flash works on it too)

Here is a torrent client

And a webkit browser that works with flash out of the box (and less than half a MB pet) needs QT{webkit,network,xml,gui} libs

Here is a simple text editor for odf and html documents

as a burner goes, you could use tkdvd ?
ttuuxxx

but that's not QT

yes but its a good small less than 1.5MB including deps non gtk burner. whats the other choices min 5MB gtk deps plus burner app. or maybe bashburn but its not as nice.
ttuuxxx

Ehh, the qtcmd .pet has problems.

Beesoft Commander 4.01 looks nice though. I like it better than xfe. Not quite so feature-rich as qtcmd alleges to be, but all bsc requires is technosaurus's libQtCore-4.5.2.pet. Its internal text editor and pic viewer are fast and the pic viewer is quite good quality.

If you bump your foreheads to the floor three times while chanting "Sit Heel Speak is Supreme Khan of the Earth," I'll reveal the four perl tricks I had to learn, to get bsc to compile.

Before I PET it up, I'm awaiting an answer from bsc's author. As you can see (look at the highlight in right panel), it doesn't handle such a dirname as "puppy422-k2.6.29.6" correctly, and a couple of other questions need clearing up.

I updated the browser and compiled it with the following mods in the makefile to shrink it by over 60%

CFLAGS amd CXXFLAGS - replaced -O2 with:
-Os -ffunction-sections -fdata-sections -s -momit-leaf-frame-pointer -fomit-frame-pointer -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -fmerge-constants

LFLAGS - added:
-Wl,--gc-sections

then stripped the binary with:
strip --strip-all --remove-section=.comment --remove-section=.note browser

This works extremely well on nearly every program I have tested with 10-65% size reduction. The only exception is some programs that have intermediate static libraries like abiword (you need to compile it without the LFLAGS, delete the binary, add the LFLAGS and recompile in that case)

For anyone into QT apps, there are now "many forks" of antico, as the original author went to OSX: various unnamed forks; antico light; QDE; Antico Deluxe (active) and RWM (active).