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clarf
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#586 Post by clarf »

davesurrey wrote:Some feedback once again:

1. clarf's suggestion to do

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export LC_ALL=C 
eliminates the GTK and GDK warnings "locale not supported by C lib" certainly for xsane, gtkam and gtkhash but only while I am in terminal. If I go out of terminal and then back in and "gtkhash" for example the error messages return.

I tried adding "export LC_ALL=C" to /root/.initrc as suggested by MHHT but that didn't work. So I guess the question is where can it go to be persistent. Also I checked that /etc/profile line 73 had

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 LANG=en_GB 
which it did.
davesurrey, I don´t understand your post. You could make it persistent or not?.

I must clarify that any environment variable could be set in /etc/profile and it makes changes persistent, in this file you must change your LANG=en_GB to LANG=C or LANG=POSIX. Excuse me if I wasn´t clear enough before...

You can check your actual locale for each format setting using:

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locale
For supported localization use:

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locale -a
You also can check all your environment setting using:

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set
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#587 Post by ttuuxxx »

esmourguit wrote:Bonjour à tous,

Hello ttuxxx,
Just installed HardInfo, and the Xfburn/Ristretto/Screenshot trio but there is one problem with ristretto, see picture below. I'm with the fr-FR locale.
Thank you for that version.
Cordialement ;)
Hi probably you didn't restart x-server, because that will start dbus, or you could click on /root/.xinitrc and that will start it also.
and the second message is to be ignored because xfce isn't running, jwm is, Its the way I hacked them together so we wouldn't be stuck using xfce, just there programs, its better that way :) well for size and resources, ristretto even had thunar as a dependency and that is very large, So I only used the lib from it.
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#588 Post by ttuuxxx »

davesurrey wrote:ttuuxxx;
Just installed HardInfo, and the Xfburn/Ristretto/Screenshot trio and all are working. Many thanks.

We now have two inserts in Menu>Graphics namely
"Screenshot" and "Take Screenshot".
Can I assume if you are going to keep both then you will rename them to ident them easier.
eg Simple and Advanced Screenshot or Even Screenshot-mtpaint.

Cheers
Dave
Hi Dave I'm just going to remove the older one, no need to have 2 screenshot utilities :) That new one is great isn't it ? lol Funny how small things like that can really make a persons day..
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#589 Post by davesurrey »

clarf wrote
davesurrey, I don´t understand your post. You could make it persistent or not?.
Sorry clarf, no I couldn't.
I did say
If I go out of terminal and then back in and "gtkhash" for example the error messages return.
but I can see it might not have been clear what followed.

Anyway now that I understand what needs to be put in /etc/profile I have changed line 73 to "LANG=C" in place of LANG=en_GB and it is persistent.

Thank you for your help.
Much appreciated.
cheers
Dave

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#590 Post by davesurrey »

Hi ttuuxxx,
Yes the new screenshot app is much nicer. I agree, it doesn't need two of them!!
Cheers
dave

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#591 Post by MinHundHettePerro »

Hello, all!
Sorry, for my outcry with joy, a bit prematurely perhaps, that the 'C'-fallback-error-message-thingy-bug had vanished :( :oops: :) . Upon reboot, there it was again. Have tried now to make it foolproof, so as to always have LANG=C set in /etc/profile, as well as exported.
This is what I now put in .xinitrc, which ensures that LANG is set back to (and exported as) C, even if locale is set with the chooselocale-script, or otherwise entered in /etc/profile (nicked it from chooselocale, modified it slightly). Insert before #exec $CURRENTWM in /root/.xinitrc:

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# Brute force LANG_profile_workaround/over-rider by MHHP 2009; makes sure that, if a locale is chosen,
# or by other means is set, the choice is overridden and LANG is set back to "C"
LANG_set=`set|grep 'LANG'|grep 'LANG='|cut -f 2 -d '='`
if [ "$LANG_set" != "C" ];then
CURRENTLOCALE="`cat /etc/profile | grep "LANG=" | cut -f 2 -d '=' | cut -f 1 -d ' ' | cut -f 1`"
OLDLANG="LANG=$CURRENTLOCALE"
NEWLANG="LANG=C"
cat /etc/profile | sed -e "s/${OLDLANG}/${NEWLANG}/" > /tmp/profile
sync
cp -f /tmp/profile /etc/profile
rm -rf /tmp/.X0-lock
sync
exec restartwm $CURRENTWM
fi
export LC_ALL=C
It's like disabling chooselocale, while at the same time keeping it for the future, should someone come up with a permanent fix.
This fixes the problem for me but, then again, I never usually set the locale (don't know what it's good for), I just set my keyboard to se, and the timezone to +1, and then I feel localised :) .
Don't know if this is any help for users that need to set the locale, though :? .

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#592 Post by ttuuxxx »

I've been following the forums advice, but also been adding locales to my system, 15MB compressed, lol utf8 etc
also I've ported puppy 4 series chooselocale script and matching files.
and so far this is how far I got. If I can figure out "LC_ALL="
then it would be good to go.
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#593 Post by ttuuxxx »

ok now I have it so that it sets everything to C local but the LANG=en_AU gets changed when I change it with the language selector.
That works pretty good. Still get a fallback C warning.
ttuuxxx
PS I did the C change by adding to the root/.bashrc

#. /etc/profile
alias ls='ls --color=auto'
alias mkdir='mkdir -p'
alias dir='ls'
export LC_ALL=C
#v1.0.5 need to override TERM setting in /etc/profile...
#export TERM=xterm
# ...v2.13 removed.

#export HISTFILESIZE=2000
#export HISTCONTROL=ignoredups
#...v2.13 removed.
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#594 Post by clarf »

Hi ttuuxxx, just for the record I tested XFCE-trio.pet.

I have some problems with ristretto.

After restart x-server I can use ristretto, open files and directories and view related images. But It crash right after you open a directory or file and click in File - Properties.

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#595 Post by ttuuxxx »

clarf wrote:Hi ttuuxxx, just for the record I tested XFCE-trio.pet.

I have some problems with ristretto.

After restart x-server I can use ristretto, open files and directories and view related images. But It crash right after you open a directory or file and click in File - Properties.

attached error.
Thanks clarf, I edited the source code and removed Properties, really its not an actual needed it, so when you open it, there's no 'Properties' to select, lol
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#596 Post by ttuuxxx »

Hi Guys I'm trying fixup the loose ends, well basically put the next release together. As for the JWM Config manager, is there anything else I should add to it, I changed the icons and now it looks much better.
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#597 Post by davesurrey »

ttuuxxx wrote
As for the JWM Config manager, is there anything else I should add to it,
taskbar ??

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#598 Post by ttuuxxx »

Good Idea, the number of virtual desktops wasn't working so I grabbed the script from series 4 and now it is :)
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#599 Post by ttuuxxx »

Ok thats done and I removed the restart JWM button, because I added fresh menus as soon as you click ok and also added the fresh menus to all the taskbar applets. So its automated now :) I did that to keep the height under control for small screens and also to make it simpler.
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#600 Post by esmourguit »

Bonjour à tous,
Hello ttuuxxx,
I restarted X and ristretto works OK, with no problem.
Is it possible to get the french (and others) locale files for this little progs if they exist? Thank you.
I would like to say i have no message "locale not supported by C library". I use fr-FR locale. I just have in /etc/profile this line 73 : LANG=fr_FR
Cordialement ;)
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#601 Post by ttuuxxx »

esmourguit wrote:Bonjour à tous,
Hello ttuuxxx,
I restarted X and ristretto works OK, with no problem.
Is it possible to get the french (and others) locale files for this little progs if they exist? Thank you.
I would like to say i have no message "locale not supported by C library". I use fr-FR locale. I just have in /etc/profile this line 73 : LANG=fr_FR
Cordialement ;)
LOL now you ask, You should of asked for that about a month ago, lol
ok I have some of the locales around, I'll see what I can do.
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#602 Post by ttuuxxx »

esmourguit wrote:Bonjour à tous,
Hello ttuuxxx,
I restarted X and ristretto works OK, with no problem.
Is it possible to get the french (and others) locale files for this little progs if they exist? Thank you.
I would like to say i have no message "locale not supported by C library". I use fr-FR locale. I just have in /etc/profile this line 73 : LANG=fr_FR
Cordialement ;)
Hi here's the locales in french

The nice thing about these programs you can always just go to debian or ubuntu repo and download there versions and remove just the locales and they should work. But I still have most of them laying around, I haven't reset my pc yet, so your in luck :)
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#603 Post by esmourguit »

Bonjour à tous,
One month ago i was walking on The Path of Santiago of Compostella. :D
Amazing experience.
Cordialement ;)
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#604 Post by esmourguit »

Bonjour à tous,
@ ttuuxxx,
You're to fast. Thank you very much.
Cordialement ;)
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#605 Post by ttuuxxx »

esmourguit wrote:Bonjour à tous,
@ ttuuxxx,
You're to fast. Thank you very much.
Cordialement ;)
Yes and I had 2 compile 2 programs also, since the locales were deleted and I still had the sources :)
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