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What is the best Puppy Version ever, LOL
2.14x
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2.14x
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2.14x
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Other: 2.14x only
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keniv

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PostPosted: Thu 08 Sep 2016, 14:19    Post subject:  

Ttuuxx wrote

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Hi Ken I spent about 4hrs on it today, was even debating on updating libusb, Cause I have a small USB issue also, when I boot with a USB hard drive plugged in, the distro stops booting, but If I unplug it it boots fine, after it boots I plug it back in and it works. Strange.


I now have the same problem with the usb pcmcia card I had working. I have the added problem if I shutdown with it still connected I get a pinboard error, the icons disappear from the screen and the machine reboots. I have tried a new savefile, and a complete manual reinstall but had no luck. However I'm nearly sure that this did not happen when I first used this card. If I boot again without the card all is as normal with icons all back in their places. If I have the card in place then remove it before shutting down all works well. This is the case will both savefiles. Even Stranger!

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PostPosted: Thu 08 Sep 2016, 18:53    Post subject:  

keniv wrote:


I now have the same problem with the usb pcmcia card I had working. I have the added problem if I shutdown with it still connected I get a pinboard error, the icons disappear from the screen and the machine reboots. I have tried a new savefile, and a complete manual reinstall but had no luck. However I'm nearly sure that this did not happen when I first used this card. If I boot again without the card all is as normal with icons all back in their places. If I have the card in place then remove it before shutting down all works well. This is the case will both savefiles. Even Stranger!

Regards,

Ken.

Have you tried any of the extra modules ?
http://puppyfiles.org/dotpupsde/dotpups/Wifi/drivers-for-Puppy-2.12-to-2.14/
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PostPosted: Fri 09 Sep 2016, 09:57    Post subject:  

Ttuuxx wrote

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Have you tried any of the extra modules ?
http://puppyfiles.org/dotpupsde/dotpups/Wifi/drivers-for-Puppy-2.12-to-2.14/
ttuuxxx


The WiFi works OK. Its only reduced in power when I use the large usb card. I think this is because the WiFi antena is screened by the metal work of the four usb ports which physically cover it. Do you know of any extra modules for pcmcia usb cards (if such a thing exists) that I could try?

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PostPosted: Fri 09 Sep 2016, 10:00    Post subject:  

keniv wrote:
Ttuuxx wrote

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Have you tried any of the extra modules ?
http://puppyfiles.org/dotpupsde/dotpups/Wifi/drivers-for-Puppy-2.12-to-2.14/
ttuuxxx


The WiFi works OK. Its only reduced in power when I use the large usb card. I think this is because the WiFi antena is screened by the metal work of the four usb ports which physically cover it. Do you know of any extra modules for pcmcia usb cards (if such a thing exists) that I could try?

Regards,

Ken.


Ken whats the make and model? and I'll have a look.
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PostPosted: Fri 09 Sep 2016, 15:04    Post subject:  

Hi Ttuuxx,
I'm not sure how to get this info. Below is the output of lsusb.

Code:
# lsusb
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
#


This is the output of usb devices.

Code:
Manufacturer=Linux 3.2.48 ehci_hcd
Product=EHCI Host Controller
SerialNumber=0000:06:00.2
VendorID=1d6b  ProductID=0002  KERNEL-MODULE=hub

Manufacturer=Linux 3.2.48 ohci_hcd
Product=OHCI Host Controller
SerialNumber=0000:06:00.1
VendorID=1d6b  ProductID=0001  KERNEL-MODULE=hub

Manufacturer=Linux 3.2.48 ohci_hcd
Product=OHCI Host Controller
SerialNumber=0000:06:00.1
VendorID=1d6b  ProductID=0001  KERNEL-MODULE=hub

Manufacturer=Linux 3.2.48 ohci_hcd
Product=OHCI Host Controller
SerialNumber=0000:06:00.1
VendorID=1d6b  ProductID=0001  KERNEL-MODULE=hub


Here is the output of PCI devices that relates to usb

Code:
DESCRIPTION: USB controller: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 USB
VENDOR: 8086  DEVICE: 7112
KERNEL DRIVER:  uhci_hcd


and this

Code:
DESCRIPTION: USB controller: NEC Corporation OHCI USB Controller
VENDOR: 1033  DEVICE: 0035
KERNEL DRIVER:  ohci_hcd

DESCRIPTION: USB controller: NEC Corporation OHCI USB Controller
VENDOR: 1033  DEVICE: 0035
KERNEL DRIVER:  ohci_hcd

DESCRIPTION: USB controller: NEC Corporation uPD72010x USB 2.0 Controller
VENDOR: 1033  DEVICE: 00e0
KERNEL DRIVER:  ehci_hcd


I'm assuming the last one must be it. So it must be a NEC Corporation uPD72010x.

I searched on this but it did not help. I'll look to see if the module ehci_hcd loads. If not I'll load it and see what happens.

I got this info running Lucid 5287s2 as the usb 2 card works with it.

Hope all this helps.

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PostPosted: Fri 09 Sep 2016, 15:34    Post subject:  

Checked "Boot Manager Config" for both 214X 11 and Lucid 5287s2 for the pcmcia card that does not work with 214X 11 but does with Lucid 5287s2.
214X 11 loads usblin. uhci_hcd and usbcore. ehci_hcd is not loaded but nor is it in the unloaded modules. None of these are loaded in Lucid 5287s2 nor is ehci_hcd and it's not in the unloaded modules so I'm now baffled. Hope you can make something of all this.

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PostPosted: Thu 15 Sep 2016, 07:55    Post subject:  

Can I ask if anybody can get the boot parameter pfix=ram to work from grub for dos. This is my entry in the menu.lst.

Code:
title 214X 11 (sda1)
   root=(hd0,0)
   kernel /214X/vmlinuz root=/dev/ram0 pmedia=idehd psubdir=/214X psave=/214X
   initrd /214X/initrd.gz


I have tried it in various places in the kernel line but it does not work.

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PostPosted: Thu 15 Sep 2016, 11:47    Post subject:  

keniv wrote:
Can I ask if anybody can get the boot parameter pfix=ram to work from grub for dos. This is my entry in the menu.lst.

Code:
title 214X 11 (sda1)
   root=(hd0,0)
   kernel /214X/vmlinuz root=/dev/ram0 pmedia=idehd psubdir=/214X psave=/214X
   initrd /214X/initrd.gz


I have tried it in various places in the kernel line but it does not work.

Regards,

Ken.


I always run live, Hardly ever used grub, What I normally do is Move things over to my hard drive and system link them back, Like root/Downloads and root/.mozilla Smile
Anyways Its been years but I looked it up. Ok you could try this and see, I altered one that worked from http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=412958#412958
Also sda1 is called hda1 in 2.14X

title 214X 11 (hda1)
rootnoverify (hd0,0)
kernel /214X/vmlinuz root=/dev/ram0 pmedia=idehd psubdir=/214X pupsave=ext3,hda1,/214X/pup_save-214X.3fs
initrd /214X/initrd.gz

^^ check your pupsave name and extension type above,
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PostPosted: Thu 15 Sep 2016, 14:12    Post subject:  

Hi ttuuxx
On the kernel line you have at the end

Code:
pupsave=ext3,hda1,/214X/pup_save-214X.3fs


On first shutdown I could not get 214X 11 to give me the option of saving in ext3 format. Is this possible. I could only save in ext2 format. I did try adding the full name of my save file in my grub entry but it made no difference. I'll try your entry but substitute ext2 for ext3.

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PostPosted: Thu 15 Sep 2016, 14:18    Post subject:  

keniv wrote:
Hi ttuuxx
On the kernel line you have at the end

Code:
pupsave=ext3,hda1,/214X/pup_save-214X.3fs


On first shutdown I could not get 214X 11 to give me the option of saving in ext3 format. Is this possible. I could only save in ext2 format. I did try adding the full name of my save file in my grub entry but it made no difference. I'll try your entry but substitute ext2 for ext3.

Thanks,

Ken.

also check your pupsave name and extension pup_save-214X.3fs 2fs or 3fs etc

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PostPosted: Fri 16 Sep 2016, 17:28    Post subject:  

Any results yet?
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PostPosted: Fri 16 Sep 2016, 18:26    Post subject:  

ttuuxxx wrote:
Any results yet?


I have now got two entries in grub to boot 214X 11. The first is the one I posted, the second is the one you suggested but altered to suit ext2 file system. It's shown below.

Code:
title 214X 11 (2) (hda1)
 rootnoverify (hd0,0)
 kernel /214X/vmlinuz root=/dev/ram0 pmedia=idehd psubdir=/214X pupsave=ext2,hda1,/214X/pup_save-214X.2fs
 initrd /214X/initrd.gz


It does not boot from this. It stops when trying to mount hda1. It gives a series of errors in red and pauses for 60secs. This precess is repeated every 60 secs.
The first one still works but ignores any boot parameters such as pfix=fsck.
Hope this helps.

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PostPosted: Thu 22 Sep 2016, 20:12    Post subject:  

Here's the latest MtCellEdit speadsheet app. I always figured this should be the default one in puppy and Gnumeric as a alternative in the repo. It would reduce the distro size by around 4MB when you remove Gnumeric and Goffice because Abiword can be compiled without Goffice and Gnumeric is the only other app which needs it. After you install it refresh your menu's and it will be found under Documents/Documents/Publishing. Give it a test and compare with Gnumeric, Should run quicker and A lot less resources.
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PostPosted: Sun 13 Nov 2016, 21:04    Post subject: network modules
Subject description: would like to use ath9 and/or android tethering
 

this distro live-boots, installs, runs quite adorably on my bronze age toshiba satellite PS275A-4K986 with its glorious 64MiB RAM as the main limiting factor; so thanx a million for that.
now I'd fancy to dog-paddle, if not surf, the interwebs, and that by means of a wireless connection.
I have a TPLink USB wifi card with athereos chipset that would require the ath9_htc kernel module, but that one has only been backported to the 2.6.26 kernel at best ( https://backports.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Main_Page ). Is it possible to painlessly move to a higher kernel, or has anyone solved this problem in any way before? Any suggestions? I feel moderately comfortable on a commandline, but compiling is still alien to me - I'd rather have someone else...
Alternatively, would it be easier to make this puppy recognize an android (gingerbread) device in USB (network-) tethering mode, technically a tunnel, afaik?
And in both cases, only USB 1.1 is on offer.

You may forgive me for asking rather than browsing the forum if you know that my solar-run household is both off grid and offline, so all my downloading distros, packages, mail etc. has to be done from small mobile devices sitting on the sidewalk where there are friendly WLANs, on the occasions when I leave the woods.
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PostPosted: Sun 13 Nov 2016, 22:21    Post subject: Re: network modules
Subject description: would like to use ath9 and/or android tethering
 

aloo-shu wrote:
this distro live-boots, installs, runs quite adorably on my bronze age toshiba satellite PS275A-4K986 with its glorious 64MiB RAM as the main limiting factor; so thanx a million for that.
now I'd fancy to dog-paddle, if not surf, the interwebs, and that by means of a wireless connection.
I have a TPLink USB wifi card with athereos chipset that would require the ath9_htc kernel module, but that one has only been backported to the 2.6.26 kernel at best ( https://backports.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Main_Page ). Is it possible to painlessly move to a higher kernel, or has anyone solved this problem in any way before? Any suggestions? I feel moderately comfortable on a commandline, but compiling is still alien to me - I'd rather have someone else...
Alternatively, would it be easier to make this puppy recognize an android (gingerbread) device in USB (network-) tethering mode, technically a tunnel, afaik?
And in both cases, only USB 1.1 is on offer.

You may forgive me for asking rather than browsing the forum if you know that my solar-run household is both off grid and offline, so all my downloading distros, packages, mail etc. has to be done from small mobile devices sitting on the sidewalk where there are friendly WLANs, on the occasions when I leave the woods.


I would contact http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/privmsg.php?mode=post&u=217 Probably would know which driver might work best.
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