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2.14x
11
29%
2.14x
4
11%
2.14x
11
29%
Other: 2.14x only
12
32%
 
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#5116 Post by ttuuxxx »

Robert123 wrote:I'll report back tonight. Thankyou.
Well if works I'll add it to the next release :)
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#5117 Post by sullysat »

So, I get my hands on this cute little laptop and think that 214X would be a great OS for it.

Can't do that without checking the forum, right? And what do I see but ttuuxxx is back!

AND there are new .pets to add to the archive! How cool is this!

ttuuxxx, I can't even tell you how cool it is to see you back, and still working on this little gem!

I'll have the updates on the page tonight. You all let me know if I miss anything important.

Exciting stuff!
Sully
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#5118 Post by ttuuxxx »

sullysat wrote:So, I get my hands on this cute little laptop and think that 214X would be a great OS for it.

Can't do that without checking the forum, right? And what do I see but ttuuxxx is back!

AND there are new .pets to add to the archive! How cool is this!

ttuuxxx, I can't even tell you how cool it is to see you back, and still working on this little gem!

I'll have the updates on the page tonight. You all let me know if I miss anything important.

Exciting stuff!
Sully
http://wisdom-seekers.com/puppy214x.html
Hey Sully nice to see you around also :), we just need clarf and a few others now and we'll be good :)
keep your eye on this thread, 2.14X is about have a make over. I'm just about ready to see if this next Alpha version will boot. Replacing LibC(GlibC) with the latest slackware. The latest won't compile against old kernels. So I have to manually remove the old one and system link the older file numbers to the newer files and cross my fingers, it worked last time. Guess will find out tonight if it boots.
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#5119 Post by ttuuxxx »

Ok guys the first alpha test was a Fail. :(
Basically it reported back the kernel was too old for the new glibC.
Worked a few years ago, but I guess things have changed.
I'll keep plugging along and see what I can do next.
here's a pic
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#5120 Post by Robert123 »

ttuuxxx wrote:
Robert123 wrote:
Robert123 wrote:With regards to numlock on my T42 there is still a problem I have disabled numlock in my bios. No other pup does this.
Same problem in Top10 so my machine and this kernel.
Ok, Back in the 2 series days Xorg wasn't the best at identifying keyboard layouts, They improved over time. So I downloaded the keyboard files from 4.31 and made a pet, lets see if this works :)
Follow the steps in this order to see if it works
1st- go to /etc/X11 and delete any xorg.conf files that might be in that folder I had 3 of them.
xorg.conf
xorg.conf0
xorg.conf.NVIDIA
Next install the keyboard-4.31.pet
Then exit to X (Hold down CTRL+ALT and press Backspace)
then type xorgwizard at the prompt.
follow the regular monitor steps and then type xwin to start the window manager.
hope that works
ttuuxxx
Hi Ttuuxxx,

Tried your pet having followed your steps and same problem remains with some of the letter keys giving numbers instead. Thanks for trying.
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#5121 Post by ttuuxxx »

Robert123 wrote:
Tried your pet having followed your steps and same problem remains with some of the letter keys giving numbers instead. Thanks for trying.
Have you tried /usr/sbin/input-wizard
select Advanced Xorg keyboard configuration key4button
different makes and models
you could read your /etc/X11/xorg.conf in puppy 4.31
mine says
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Keyboard0"
Driver "kbd"
Option "XkbRules" "xorg"
Option "XkbModel" "pc102"
Option "XkbLayout" "us" #xkeymap0
EndSection


and change it on 2.14X using /usr/sbin/input-wizard
maybe that would work.
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#5122 Post by Robert123 »

Hi Ttuuxxx,

Yes tried all that.

thanks
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#5123 Post by Robert123 »

Yes I'm sorry Ttuuxxx whatever I try the numlock comes on - I disabled it in the bios - it still comes on when 214X boots into the desktop. :cry:
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#5124 Post by ttuuxxx »

Robert123 wrote:Yes I'm sorry Ttuuxxx whatever I try the numlock comes on - I disabled it in the bios - it still comes on when 214X boots into the desktop. :cry:
open a terminal and type xsetnumlock off
and see if that works
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Boot, and good to see you back

#5125 Post by Minnesota »

I am sure you know 11.0 will not boot on a newer machine without a IDE drive. attached file of the screen.

Boot with Xvesa on older IBM R52, no sound. Will find an older box to give it a shot. HAY... Bubbles is back :)>

How are you doing?
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#5126 Post by sullysat »

Okay, I'm very out of practice. Can someone point me to a good grub tutorial?

I loaded this little laptop with Top11, frugal, with the files in puppy2214 folder, but it's not booting right and I'll be danged but I haven't been able to sort it out.

Used to have some good cheatsheets that I got here, but can't find them anywhere.

Grrr
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#5127 Post by Robert123 »

ttuuxxx wrote:
Robert123 wrote:Yes I'm sorry Ttuuxxx whatever I try the numlock comes on - I disabled it in the bios - it still comes on when 214X boots into the desktop. :cry:
open a terminal and type xsetnumlock off
and see if that works
ttuuxxx
:oops: Sorry yet again doesn't work - this machine is really ---------ed up!
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#5128 Post by Keef »

sullysat

See my post on previous page. It has my grub4dos entry. Then again, I'll save you the trouble:
title 214X 11

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  find --set-root --ignore-floppies --ignore-cd /214X/initrd.gz
  kernel /214X/vmlinuz root=/dev/ram0  psubdir=214X PMEDIA=idehd PDEV1=hda2 PUPSAVE=ext2,hda2,/214X/pup_save-214X.2fs
  initrd /214X/initrd.gz

I'm sure you can adapt it.

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Re: Boot, and good to see you back

#5129 Post by ttuuxxx »

Minnesota wrote:I am sure you know 11.0 will not boot on a newer machine without a IDE drive. attached file of the screen.

Boot with Xvesa on older IBM R52, no sound. Will find an older box to give it a shot. HAY... Bubbles is back :)>

How are you doing?
I'm doing pretty good :), Lived in Australia for 14yrs moved back to Canada last year, with the Aussie wife and kids. :)
Found a workaround for your booting issue.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 6&start=15
Also lots of other search results (437)
https://www.google.ca/#q=cannot+find+pu ... om%2Fpuppy

You can also try booting up with puppy ide=nodma

Let me know how it goes and if you find a universal fix ?

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#5130 Post by James C »

Minnesota wrote:I am sure you know 11.0 will not boot on a newer machine without a IDE drive. attached file of the screen.

Boot with Xvesa on older IBM R52, no sound. Will find an older box to give it a shot. HAY... Bubbles is back :)>

How are you doing?

Frugal install of Top 11 booting just fine on this box with 2 sata hdd and a sata optical drive.Nothing ide.

Booted cd,ran installer,edited menu.lst and rebooted.

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-Computer-
Processor		: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5200+
Memory		: 3632MB (370MB used)
Operating System		: Puppy Linux 0.21
User Name		: root (root)
Date/Time		: Mon 05 Sep 2016 06:35:42 PM PUP
-Display-
Resolution		: 1600x1200 pixels
OpenGL Renderer		: Unknown
X11 Vendor		: (null)
-Multimedia-
-Input Devices-
 AT Translated Set 2 keyboard
 ImPS/2 Logitech Wheel Mouse
-Printers (CUPS)-
CUPS-PDF		: <i>Default</i>
-SCSI Disks-
HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GH22NS50
ATA WDC WD10EZEX-00R
ATA ST3250318AS
Generic- Compact Flash
Generic- SM/xD-Picture
Generic- SD/MMC
Generic- MS/MS-Pro

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sh-3.00# dmesg | grep -i SATA
sata_nv 0000:00:08.0: version 2.0
ata1: SATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0xD400 ctl 0xD082 bmdma 0xC880 irq 10
ata2: SATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0xD000 ctl 0xCC02 bmdma 0xC888 irq 10
scsi0 : sata_nv
ata1: SATA link up 1.5 Gbps (SStatus 113 SControl 300)
scsi1 : sata_nv
ata2: SATA link up 3.0 Gbps (SStatus 123 SControl 300)
ata3: SATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0xC800 ctl 0xC482 bmdma 0xC000 irq 10
ata4: SATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0xC400 ctl 0xC082 bmdma 0xC008 irq 10
scsi2 : sata_nv
ata3: SATA link up 3.0 Gbps (SStatus 123 SControl 300)
scsi3 : sata_nv
ata4: SATA link down (SStatus 0 SControl 300)
sh-3.00#

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sh-3.00# hdparm -I /dev/sd? | grep 'sd.\|ATA'
/dev/sda:
ATA device, with non-removable media
Transport: Serial, SATA 1.0a, SATA II Extensions, SATA Rev 2.5
           *    SATA-I signaling speed (1.5Gb/s)
           *    SATA-II signaling speed (3.0Gb/s)
/dev/sdb:
ATA device, with non-removable media
 HDIO_DRIVE_CMD(identify) failed: Invalid argument
 HDIO_DRIVE_CMD(identify) failed: Invalid argument
 HDIO_DRIVE_CMD(identify) failed: Invalid argument
 HDIO_DRIVE_CMD(identify) failed: Invalid argument
           *    SATA-I signaling speed (1.5Gb/s)
           *    SATA-II signaling speed (3.0Gb/s)
/dev/sdc:
/dev/sdd:
/dev/sde:
/dev/sdf:
sh-3.00#

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sh-3.00# free
              total         used         free       shared      buffers
  Mem:      3632288       506072      3126216            0        45936
 Swap:      6246392            0      6246392
Total:      9878680       506072      9372608
sh-3.00#

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title Puppy Linux 214 frugal
rootnoverify (hd0,2)
kernel /pup11/vmlinuz root=/dev/ram0 pmedia=satahd psubdir=pup11
initrd /pup11/initrd.gz

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Boot, and good to see you back

#5131 Post by Minnesota »

I was running from the CD. Booted OK to the iBM laptop, not to a desktop on a sata DVD nor on a Dell laptop.

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#5132 Post by Robert123 »

Hi Ttuuxxx booted to desktop on dell d620 and keyboard was normal.
2 gig ram installed connected to wpa2 connection with pwireless and I am posting from it now.

Flashplayback works if I set through alsa wizard.

Running live from unetbootin.
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#5133 Post by ttuuxxx »

Robert123 wrote:Hi Ttuuxxx booted to desktop on dell d620 and keyboard was normal.
2 gig ram installed connected to wpa2 connection with pwireless and I am posting from it now.
excellent glad you have it running on something :) I'm trying out the latest Slacko right now, its 111MB larger iso image than 2.14X, Doesn't come with gimp or half the programs, The DevX is 918MB extracted. Really I see why we need a version like 2.14X for older pc's and newer ones if it recognizes all the hardware.
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#5134 Post by wanderer »

ttuuxxx

just asking

what do you think of the ideas of the tinycore system
for your long term support TOP creation

i love puppy but it could be improved

regards

wanderer

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#5135 Post by ttuuxxx »

wanderer wrote:ttuuxxx

just asking

what do you think of the ideas of the tinycore system
for your long term support TOP creation

i love puppy but it could be improved

regards

wanderer
I tried Tinycore a couple of times when it first came out, It wasn't bad, But it wasn't puppy, I might give it another whirl and see how its improved over the years.
ttuuxxx
http://audio.online-convert.com/ <-- excellent site
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)

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