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2.14x
11
29%
2.14x
4
11%
2.14x
11
29%
Other: 2.14x only
12
32%
 
Total votes: 38

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wanderer
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#5101 Post by wanderer »

downloaded
burned to disc
changed to jwm (my fav)
set up a save file
posting from it now

looks great

many thanks

wanderer

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Keef
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#5102 Post by Keef »

Did a manual frugal install.... to an ext4 partition. Should have known better.
Tried again on a newly formatted small ext2 partition and all is well.

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title  214X 11
  find --set-root --ignore-floppies --ignore-cd /214X/initrd.gz
  kernel /214X/vmlinuz root=/dev/ram0  psubdir=214X PMEDIA=idehd PDEV1=hda2
  initrd /214X/initrd.gz

Couldn't get wifi to work straight off (WPA2 problems), but installed pns_tools (the CLI network tool that 01Micko adapted from Porteus) and that worked.
Downloaded the devx pet and converted it to an SFS. Loaded and working after a reboot.

10 year old Compaq nc6120 laptop.
2ghz Pentium M
2gb RAM
64gb SSD (mSATA) in an IDE adapter.
Intel i915 graphics.

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#5103 Post by ttuuxxx »

Keef wrote:Did a manual frugal install.... to an ext4 partition. Should have known better.
Tried again on a newly formatted small ext2 partition and all is well.

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title  214X 11
  find --set-root --ignore-floppies --ignore-cd /214X/initrd.gz
  kernel /214X/vmlinuz root=/dev/ram0  psubdir=214X PMEDIA=idehd PDEV1=hda2
  initrd /214X/initrd.gz

Couldn't get wifi to work straight off (WPA2 problems), but installed pns_tools (the CLI network tool that 01Micko adapted from Porteus) and that worked.
Downloaded the devx pet and converted it to an SFS. Loaded and working after a reboot.

10 year old Compaq nc6120 laptop.
2ghz Pentium M
2gb RAM
64gb SSD (mSATA) in an IDE adapter.
Intel i915 graphics.
Hi Keef could you try this modified Pwireless , Clarf posted some updates on the Pwireless thread that wasn't updated on here. So I modified the script with them.
This was the modifications I made. http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 784#562784

Also here 01Micko's pns_tool, I updated the missing .desktop icon. Could you try this one also and make sure it works, So I can added it to 2.14X

Thanks :)
Tttuuxxx
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pns_tool_pup-0.3.pet
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pwireless-0.8.4-clarf-fix.pet
(5.19 KiB) Downloaded 172 times
http://audio.online-convert.com/ <-- excellent site
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)

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#5104 Post by Keef »

ttuuxxx

Rebooted with no savefile.
Pwireless still does not connect - I always thought it could not handle WPA/WPA2?

The new pns_tool pet works correctly.

I downloaded the latest JWM (from GiHub), just to see what happened. Found out you need to run

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autoreconf -vfi
first (rather than automake), and also
"--disable-rsvg" in the configure options for it to compile. Some of the menu icons don't appear though.

I've only noticed a few minor things so far. Some icons are missing from the Control Panel (and on the other tabs too).
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#5105 Post by ttuuxxx »

Keef wrote:ttuuxxx

I downloaded the latest JWM (from GiHub), just to see what happened. Found out you need to run

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autoreconf -vfi
first (rather than automake), and also
"--disable-rsvg" in the configure options for it to compile. Some of the menu icons don't appear though.

I've only noticed a few minor things so far. Some icons are missing from the Control Panel (and on the other tabs too).
excellent you found something that needs fixing, I'm working on the missing images on the control panel. :)
I don't really like the newer JWM, I hate that moving your mouse over and it switches screens thing, drives me nuts. Same with the drop down task-bar thing. I like a much simpler approach that takes less resources.
ttuuxxx
http://audio.online-convert.com/ <-- excellent site
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)

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#5106 Post by mcewanw »

I have always generally liked JWM, particularly because of the low resources used for so much power. However, if an app such as Firefox is minimised in Openbox I like that you can drag and drop an html file from Filemanager onto the taskbar minimised Firefox icon and Firefox then pops up displaying that file.

I don't think JWM can do that, hence I tend to prefer Openbox. Or is there a newer JWM that can do that or a JWM configuration that results in that additional functionality?

Yes, I hate when a new desktop appears when moving over to screen edge, but I don't mind vanishing taskbar as long as that capability is configurable.

What I particularly like about JWM, however, is that it comes with taskbar and panels code built-in.

William
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#5107 Post by ttuuxxx »

Here's a pet of the missing icons for the JWM (tabble) control panel :)
plus Viewnior
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missing-icons-v1.pet
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http://audio.online-convert.com/ <-- excellent site
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)

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#5108 Post by mcewanw »

What I particularly like about JWM, however, is that it comes with taskbar and panels code built-in. Main thing I don't think it has (!) is easy ability to generate menus via xdg?? Seems to be a lot of scripted or manual configuartion required though I don't know much about how dynamically generated menus work, so I may well be completely wrong about JWM capabilities in that direction.

Good to hear it continues to be used and developed though.

William
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#5109 Post by Robert123 »

With regards to numlock on my T42 there is still a problem I have disabled numlock in my bios. No other pup does this.
Devuan Linux, Stardust 013 (4.31) updated [url]https://archive.org/details/Stardustpup013glibc2.10[/url]
s57(2018)barebone[url]https://sourceforge.net/projects/puppy-linux-minimal-builds/files/s57%282018%29barebones.iso/download[/url]

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#5110 Post by cthisbear »

" Couldn't get wifi to work straight off (WPA2 problems), but installed pns_tools (the CLI network tool that 01Micko adapted from Porteus)
and that worked.

Downloaded the devx pet and converted it to an SFS. Loaded and
working after a reboot. "

Pity someone could not make Pet out of this and maybe see if restarting
the desktop would enable it.

ttuuxxx...good to see you back.

I gave Slackoff a whirl last week...still a goodie.

http://smokey01.com/ttuuxxx/Slackoff/

I had to take quite a few pcs to the recyclers weeks ago
as I couldn't give them away....Shame ..shame moment.

It would be good to see if you do a hook up with John Biles
to produce a Super Puppy Legacy.

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 598b7d784d

All the best....Chris.

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#5111 Post by Robert123 »

Robert123 wrote:With regards to numlock on my T42 there is still a problem I have disabled numlock in my bios. No other pup does this.
Same problem in Top10 so my machine and this kernel.
Devuan Linux, Stardust 013 (4.31) updated [url]https://archive.org/details/Stardustpup013glibc2.10[/url]
s57(2018)barebone[url]https://sourceforge.net/projects/puppy-linux-minimal-builds/files/s57%282018%29barebones.iso/download[/url]

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#5112 Post by James C »

Top 11 live before a quick a full install. Everything working on initial boot,

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-Computer-
Processor		: Pentium III (Coppermine)
Memory		: 255MB (156MB used)
Operating System		: Puppy Linux 0.21
User Name		: root (root)
Date/Time		: Sun 04 Sep 2016 01:46:52 AM PUP
-Display-
Resolution		: 1024x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer		: Unknown
X11 Vendor		: (null)
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter		: ICH - Intel 82801AA-ICH
-Input Devices-
 AT Translated Set 2 keyboard
 ImPS/2 Logitech Wheel Mouse
-Printers (CUPS)-
CUPS-PDF		: <i>Default</i>
-IDE Disks-
Maxtor 6K040L0
DV-28E-A

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sh-3.00# free
              total         used         free       shared      buffers
  Mem:       255060       248852         6208            0        19956
 Swap:      1020088        91948       928140
Total:      1275148       340800       934348
sh-3.00#

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#5113 Post by James C »

Successful full install,,,,,,
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#5114 Post by ttuuxxx »

Robert123 wrote:
Robert123 wrote:With regards to numlock on my T42 there is still a problem I have disabled numlock in my bios. No other pup does this.
Same problem in Top10 so my machine and this kernel.
Ok, Back in the 2 series days Xorg wasn't the best at identifying keyboard layouts, They improved over time. So I downloaded the keyboard files from 4.31 and made a pet, lets see if this works :)
Follow the steps in this order to see if it works
1st- go to /etc/X11 and delete any xorg.conf files that might be in that folder I had 3 of them.
xorg.conf
xorg.conf0
xorg.conf.NVIDIA
Next install the keyboard-4.31.pet
Then exit to X (Hold down CTRL+ALT and press Backspace)
then type xorgwizard at the prompt.
follow the regular monitor steps and then type xwin to start the window manager.
hope that works
ttuuxxx
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keyboard-4.31.pet
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http://audio.online-convert.com/ <-- excellent site
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)

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#5115 Post by Robert123 »

I'll report back tonight. Thankyou.
Devuan Linux, Stardust 013 (4.31) updated [url]https://archive.org/details/Stardustpup013glibc2.10[/url]
s57(2018)barebone[url]https://sourceforge.net/projects/puppy-linux-minimal-builds/files/s57%282018%29barebones.iso/download[/url]

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#5116 Post by ttuuxxx »

Robert123 wrote:I'll report back tonight. Thankyou.
Well if works I'll add it to the next release :)
ttuuxxx
http://audio.online-convert.com/ <-- excellent site
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)

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#5117 Post by sullysat »

So, I get my hands on this cute little laptop and think that 214X would be a great OS for it.

Can't do that without checking the forum, right? And what do I see but ttuuxxx is back!

AND there are new .pets to add to the archive! How cool is this!

ttuuxxx, I can't even tell you how cool it is to see you back, and still working on this little gem!

I'll have the updates on the page tonight. You all let me know if I miss anything important.

Exciting stuff!
Sully
http://wisdom-seekers.com/puppy214x.html
Puppy Files Mirror - [b][url]http://www.wisdom-seekers.com/puppy.html[/url][/b]
Classic Puppy Page - [b][url]http://www.wisdom-seekers.com/puppy214x.html[/url][/b]

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#5118 Post by ttuuxxx »

sullysat wrote:So, I get my hands on this cute little laptop and think that 214X would be a great OS for it.

Can't do that without checking the forum, right? And what do I see but ttuuxxx is back!

AND there are new .pets to add to the archive! How cool is this!

ttuuxxx, I can't even tell you how cool it is to see you back, and still working on this little gem!

I'll have the updates on the page tonight. You all let me know if I miss anything important.

Exciting stuff!
Sully
http://wisdom-seekers.com/puppy214x.html
Hey Sully nice to see you around also :), we just need clarf and a few others now and we'll be good :)
keep your eye on this thread, 2.14X is about have a make over. I'm just about ready to see if this next Alpha version will boot. Replacing LibC(GlibC) with the latest slackware. The latest won't compile against old kernels. So I have to manually remove the old one and system link the older file numbers to the newer files and cross my fingers, it worked last time. Guess will find out tonight if it boots.
ttuuxxx
http://audio.online-convert.com/ <-- excellent site
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)

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#5119 Post by ttuuxxx »

Ok guys the first alpha test was a Fail. :(
Basically it reported back the kernel was too old for the new glibC.
Worked a few years ago, but I guess things have changed.
I'll keep plugging along and see what I can do next.
here's a pic
ttuuxxx
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2.14X.JPG
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http://audio.online-convert.com/ <-- excellent site
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)

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#5120 Post by Robert123 »

ttuuxxx wrote:
Robert123 wrote:
Robert123 wrote:With regards to numlock on my T42 there is still a problem I have disabled numlock in my bios. No other pup does this.
Same problem in Top10 so my machine and this kernel.
Ok, Back in the 2 series days Xorg wasn't the best at identifying keyboard layouts, They improved over time. So I downloaded the keyboard files from 4.31 and made a pet, lets see if this works :)
Follow the steps in this order to see if it works
1st- go to /etc/X11 and delete any xorg.conf files that might be in that folder I had 3 of them.
xorg.conf
xorg.conf0
xorg.conf.NVIDIA
Next install the keyboard-4.31.pet
Then exit to X (Hold down CTRL+ALT and press Backspace)
then type xorgwizard at the prompt.
follow the regular monitor steps and then type xwin to start the window manager.
hope that works
ttuuxxx
Hi Ttuuxxx,

Tried your pet having followed your steps and same problem remains with some of the letter keys giving numbers instead. Thanks for trying.
Devuan Linux, Stardust 013 (4.31) updated [url]https://archive.org/details/Stardustpup013glibc2.10[/url]
s57(2018)barebone[url]https://sourceforge.net/projects/puppy-linux-minimal-builds/files/s57%282018%29barebones.iso/download[/url]

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