Classic Pup 2.14X -- Updated 2 series

[davesurrey]

ttuuxxx wrote:

sounds like we got a keeper,

Well it certainly is working for me.
Just a couple of things I've noticed which are details but...

1. MHHP asked about the sort order of the icons. His and mine seemed different. Mine had "home" after the other partitions. Then I added two more partitions and home kept its position and the new two partition icons followed it. So not very logical. This was the case even after a reboot.
See screenshot below. hdb12 and hdb13 have been added after I installed the mut-scroll-pet and made the file mods as per MHHT's posts above.

2. I did say way back that although I can now see partitions greater than hdb9 I still get an error message on boot up saying that partitions 9 and above can't be mounted.
I had a look in /etc/Hotpup/ and only see 8 "add_device_to_fstab " files. Is this the reason? I thought I might be able to copy and paste to make some others but using TkDiff to compare them shows several differences that confused me so I have left well alone for others more knowledgable to have a look.

I have also attached my modified pmount file and /dev folder

/dev has been modified by adding nodes up to and including 16 for all hdX up to hdg and all sdX up to sdf.

/usr/sbin/pmount has the mods around line 370 and 505 so that pmount shows a complete list of all partitions and the sort order is ascending not descending. I have included partitions up to 16 for both hdX and sdX.


I have NOT included the changes to line 54 of /etc/Hotpup/add_icons_for_device1 and /etc/Hotpup/add_icons_for_device3 which MHHT identified above to fix the icon sort order.

I have NOT included the small fix to the last line of /sbin/probepart to fix the sorting on Pmount.

Both these last two changes need to be made.

Think that's it.
Thanks for your patience.
Hope you get a good night's sleep.

Cheers
Dave

[ttuuxxx]

wow dave thats nuts, I've never seen so many drive icons on the desktop like that, but it actually looks real nice
anyways calling it a early night
ttuuxxx

[davesurrey]

ttuuxxx wrote:

wow dave thats nuts, I've never seen so many drive icons on the desktop

Well this is my test PC and I run a load of distros to learn as well as to "support" a few folk who I have persuaded to use one or other of these.

In fact it's worse than you think because even just on hdb3 I have 8 frugal installs of Puppy.

A few days ago I had:
Windows XP Pro
Windows Seven
Ubuntu 9.04
Debian Lenny
Fedora 10
Arch
Crunchbang
SliTaz cooking
SliTaz 2
Vector Linux
Tiny Core
Sugar
and of course Puppy.

Sleep well. If you can't perhaps start counting Distros.
Dave

[legendofthor]

G'day,
"The bandwidth for the month of June 2009 has been exceeded.

My apologies to all the users.

We will be back in July 2009"

Anyone else hosting this?
Cheers
Martin

[ttuuxxx]

G'day,
"The bandwidth for the month of June 2009 has been exceeded.

My apologies to all the users.

We will be back in July 2009"

Anyone else hosting this?
Cheers
Martin

Thats good news because thats the older version
here's the latest verion
http://www.ttuuxxx.gposil.com/2.14X/iso/214X4.iso
I should be updating it in about another 4 days or so, I don't mind doing it say once a week. Better that way to get things fixed and gives me some time to work on puppy 4.15
ttuuxxx

[ttuuxxx]

I'm now going to keep the latest version download links on page 1, so its easy to find
ttuuxxx

[legendofthor]

Ignore previous post - caneri has hosted it
Cheers
Martin

[Aitch]

Hi ttuuxxx

Is this being mirrored to Eric's .ca site? [now answered while typing]

I'm still using 2.14x3 - seems ok/better than R101, and has become my demo/take everywhere disc

Is there an update script, rather than d/l the whole thing?

Aitch

[ttuuxxx]

Hi ttuuxxx

Is this being mirrored to Eric's .ca site? [now answered while typing]

I'm still using 2.14x3 - seems ok/better than R101, and has become my demo/take everywhere disc

Is there an update script, rather than d/l the whole thing?

Aitch

No arch theres only a full download of version 4, I think doing a update would be difficult, because I'm changing code here and there, removing files manually and replacing them and making links, Its complicated enough without trying to add something else to mix, lol
maybe updated like every 4 releases, lol
ttuuxxx

[MinHundHettePerro]

Hello, there!

Had the opportunity to have a musical spin with 214X4 tonight (wife's away, kids are asleep ), having a few cold ones , blasting MP3:s into my head phones . I'm very impressed by the BMP, looks like the first winamp I ever ran in very early 90's. On my set-up, choosing the ALSA Output plug-in, instead of the default(?) OSS, seems to give a better sound (half-subjective, though, remember the few cold ones , and add the factual musical style of (punk)-rock) .
A few niggly-wigglies, though: (don't know if they're inherent from 214R, though)

• The play-list objects heavily to the ID3-tags of my native songs, which are non-UTF-8 (probably saved in 8859-1???), see attached pic (the "ignore UTF-8" option in Preferences doesn't work).
  Playlist does not indicate/update when shifting to a new song.
  A bit sensitive to other applications stealing too much of system resources.

I would (if it's at all possible) very, very, much like to be able to use my old winamp-skins, how-to?

Since, (after updating all the required libs) I still can't get the 214X4-XMMS to work, nor the BigBass_XMMS:s (I'm a dedicated user of XMMS/winamp), I must state that I'm perfectly happy with BMP/Beep, though !!!!

FWIW, and cheers and such/
P

[Billwho?]

ttuuxxx would this be an option?

For Devs
1/ Download and install the xdelta-3.0.0.pet available here http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 141#308918
2/ Open xdelta-3.0.0 <Puppy 4.2 | Utility | Xdelta Difference Manager> in my 4.2 install. Would be something similar in your install. (only about 8 pages into this entire thread at the moment so not sure what you are running your builds in )
3/ Drag the currently available iso into the 'old file' pane of the "Xdelta Difference Manager" window.
4/ Drag the newly created soon to be uploaded iso into the 'New or .delta file' pane of the "Xdelta Difference Manager" window.
5/ Click the 'GENERATE' button and a patch file that will change the current iso to the new iso is created.
6/ Upload both the new iso (for those who do not have the current iso) and the patch file (for who do have the current iso and xdelta-3.0.0 installed)

For Users/testers
1/ Download and install the xdelta-3.0.0.pet available here http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 141#308918
2/ Open xdelta-3.0.0 <Puppy 4.2 | Utility | Xdelta Difference Manager> in my 4.2 install. would be something similar in your install.
3/ Drag your current iso into the 'old file' pane of the "Xdelta Difference Manager" window.
4/ Drag the newly downloaded .delta patch-file into the 'New or .delta file' pane of the "Xdelta Difference Manager" window.
5/ Click the 'GENERATE' button and new current iso is created.

There is also the command line option of using xdelta. But I am not sure if it is installed in puppy by default, or where to get it if is not.

[tempestuous]

Since, (after updating all the required libs) I still can't get the 214X4-XMMS to work, nor the BigBass_XMMS

Well the most comprehensively optioned and configured version of XMMS has always been the one packaged in Feb 2008 -
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=26528
I tried it in Puppy214X4 just now - it works great. No "updated libs" required.

... although I do agree that BMP is a good idea.

[ecomoney]

In terms of the amount of processing power needed, I have found that pMusic is hard to beat (especially now the errant process problems have been rectified) and at 3kb wont break the bank space wise. For the lower spec machines that suit the 2.6.18.1 kernel this would be ideal, but pSeries apps dont seem to work on 2.14.x?

[tempestuous]

I have found that pMusic is hard to beat
...
and at 3kb wont break the bank space wise.

That's just 3kb for the gui, but the underlying ffmpeg libraries are 1.6MB (compressed) in size!
That's why pMusic doesn't work in Puppy 2 - no ffmpeg libraries.

The lowest size/resource audio applications are -

for MP3: madplay (standard in Puppy) or better still, mpg123
for wav: wavplay or aplay (standard in Puppy)
for ogg: ogg123

and a simple gui to control them is xhippo (25KB compressed) -
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=10722

If you're happy to add 650KB worth of application/libraries compressed for a dedicated audio player, lamip+xhippo adds support for AAC/m4a/FLAC/WMA audio formats.

The CPU usage remains low.

[MinHundHettePerro]

tempestuous
Many thanks for the xmms links, works like a charm!

(Looks like I have some bitmap-editing to do )

cheers/
MHHP

[tempestuous]

... although I do agree that BMP is a good idea.

I shouldn't have spoken so soon. BMP in Puppy 214X4 doesn't support -
AAC/m4a
flac
wma

[puppyluvr]

Hello,
Ran into a strange one today...Testing 2.14rX3 on a Dell desktop..
Got a message my pupsave was full, only 22mb left...So I resize it 512 and reboot...fsck runs before resizing, then boots up...Still 22mb left???Pupsave is now 64+512..576mb...Hmm....Resized it again by 512mb, and rebooted...
Now I have a 1088mb pupsave with 22mb showing as free...
The computer is at a newbies house in another town, so I just set D/L`s to go to /mnt/home and showed them how to clear the browser cache, and told them when I get back in town Ill fix it...
Firefox freezes occasionally, but I`m thinking its the 256mb ram and flash..

P.S. the machine has 256 ram and no swap, and 2.14rX3 flies on it...
They cant quit about how fast it is...(But then they were running XP on 256mb...ughhh.)

Will upgrade them to X4 next time, and let you know how it goes..

[ttuuxxx]

Hello,
Ran into a strange one today...Testing 2.14rX3 on a Dell desktop..
Got a message my pupsave was full, only 22mb left...So I resize it 512 and reboot...fsck runs before resizing, then boots up...Still 22mb left???Pupsave is now 64+512..576mb...Hmm....Resized it again by 512mb, and rebooted...
Now I have a 1088mb pupsave with 22mb showing as free...
The computer is at a newbies house in another town, so I just set D/L`s to go to /mnt/home and showed them how to clear the browser cache, and told them when I get back in town Ill fix it...
Firefox freezes occasionally, but I`m thinking its the 256mb ram and flash..

P.S. the machine has 256 ram and no swap, and 2.14rX3 flies on it...
They cant quit about how fast it is...(But then they were running XP on 256mb...ughhh.)

Will upgrade them to X4 next time, and let you know how it goes..

I think it might actually be a memory hardware problem in that pc, I have used tonsssssssssss of pupsave files with 2.14.1X without any issue, well other than trying to make a 10GB pupsave, but I managed in the end.
Maybe try another version of puppy for a small duration of time and see if you have the same issues ?

ttuuxxx

[ttuuxxx]

hey guys, If you want test that xmms package and if you have no problems with it, I can remove BMP and replace it with XMMS, its double the size, but XMMS has always be my Audioplayer of choice
ttuuxxx

[clarf]

I always have been a WinAmp 2.x user, I still use 2.97 version in my XP machine (very hard to find now). XMMS feels and handle just like WinAmp, although the "Preference menu" is ugly the contextual options shown with right click are the same that WinAmp.

I had some minor graphic issues with BMP but none with XMMS, it even seems to take less resources.

That package referenced by tempestous have many plugins, I think we can remove some effects and general plugins from it, like Voice removal (don't like it at all) and echo and just leave the Audio Plugins.

I vote for XMMS.