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davesurrey
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#496 Post by davesurrey »

ttuuxxx:

1. I have attached a screenshot of the latest MUT showing overlapping volume labels. I have sent you similar before but here's the latest you asked for.

2. The other issues I mentioned above don't (in my feeble understanding) seem to relate just to MUT, but to either PMount or the problem that Puppys don't seem to come with enough dev files for some of us. Plus the icon order issue.

3. As this is taking up so much of your time can I suggest you drop it and go on to more important issues for the rest of the crowd. Perhaps if you bring out a 214x5 with the fixes that you have it would be good to test that.

Just some of my thoughts .
Dave
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#497 Post by ttuuxxx »

Hi Dave

I don't mind spending my time on it :) its always better to get things fixed if its possible, plus I'm also working on the next 4.15 build, Barry suggested that I add the better parts of 4.2 to it and update some graphics, Since I built a good portion of the packages in 4.2, I have a very good understanding on what works and what doesn't plus what people liked and didn't etc. So I said ya sure, so I'm working on the graphics to start with, almost finished the mimes, next is the icons, then the packages, some scripts etc. :). Only thing is that 415 base is 101MB and I need to keep it at 100MB, lol plus add apps, buts ok I found some room, :)
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scrolling mut

#498 Post by MinHundHettePerro »

Hello there!
Another day, another mut :) .
The scrollbar mut is absolutely brilliant!!! :D :D :D

On the sorting issue:
Editing the last line of /sbin/probepart
echo -e "$OUTPUT" #| sort
makes pmount display the partitions in correct descending order. To set it to ascending order pmount has to be reversely hacked to counteract the effect of the following lines of pmount

Code: Select all

367   # Dougal: add temp param, so order won't be reversed...
368    TEMPGUICODE=""
Regarding the ordering of HotPup icons, I haven't found out the reason yet.
In general, I have a vague hunch that the culprit of the strange ordering is the "sort"-command.

I once ditched 3.01 because I couldn't mount sdc9 and even if MUT would see it, it couldn't display it on screen. :(
So, everything I learn from this discussion, I apply to 3.01, making it useful again. :)

Thanks


cheers/
MHHP
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#499 Post by davesurrey »

Good afternoon MHHP (well it is in the UK):

Great news about your fix to sort the partitions in Pmount (although the Australia way of sorting upside down is interesting to say the least.)

As well as the fix in /sbin/probepart I re-ordered the lines 376 to 388 in /usr/sbin/pmount and Pmount is now sorting correctly.

By the way I guess you also found a /sbin/probepart6 file as well for "exotic fs".

Thanks for this.

ttuuxxx perhaps you'll put this fix in the next version, please.

If only the icons would behave the same.

Thanks again
Dave

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#500 Post by ttuuxxx »

As you know guys I don't have any issues with partitions on my sata2 drives, Could one of you that has the numbering issues etc add what ever fixes to mut you implemented and post the file here for us to try, If it works all around then I could safely install it in the next release :), just tar.gz it up if thats easier than making a pet.
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#501 Post by clarf »

Hi ttuuxxx, I didn´t notice before the firmware files from "bcm43xx-firmware.pet" (http://puppyfiles.org/dotpupsde/dotpups ... 2-to-2.14/) are not present in Puppy 214x4, many Broadcom cards (includes mine) need these files to work.

Please include these in next release, the Broadcom-firmware pet is just 28KB.

Thank you ttuuxxx.
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#502 Post by clarf »

I have a small request, ttuuxxx could you please create a html file in /usr/share/doc with the changes made in Puppy 214xn. There are some informational html files in this directory for Puppy 2.14R (release-2.14.htm and release-2.14r.html).

We should create a new incremental one for each new release that you launch, release-2.14rxx.htm (or something like that).

I´ll send a base .html file in short....

EDIT: Uploaded Changelog file, ttuuxxx please take a look on it
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HotPup desktop icon order

#503 Post by MinHundHettePerro »

Good evening, all!
Fix for my problem with HotPup desktop icon (dis-)order :) :) :) :
Delete what is marked in red below, from line 54 of these files
  • /etc/HotPup/add_icons_for_device1
    /etc/HotPup/add_icons_for_device3
(The other files of the same type, with different numbers don't contain the "offending code".)
54 MNTPNTS="`grep -F "/dev/$ADEV" $FSTAB | grep -F -v '#' | tr '\t' ' ' | tr -s ' '| sort | cut -d' ' -f2`"
This fixes my discontinuous icon ordering. Seems like the strange ordering would strike blindly to certain devices (not really, but it depends on $ADEV and $ASD, which in turn depend grep:ing of /sys/block etc. etc. in /etc/HotPup/HotPup.sh)

Hope this info helps, please, try it out. :) 8)

cheers/
MHHP
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Dual Xeon 3.2 GHz, 1 GB, nvidia quadro nvs 285[/color]
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#504 Post by davesurrey »

MHHT:
Congratulations on fixing this.
I tried your mods and all icons now appear in order (apart from the one that includes the 214 puppy but I can understand and certainly it's most probably a better way to sort it.)
You really have helped put to bed a lot of these little niggles for which many thanks.
Dave

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HotPup desktop icons

#505 Post by MinHundHettePerro »

HotPup desktop icons:

I boot 214Xn frugally off of hda6 (hda4 extended, hda7 swap) and here's how it shows on my desktop, hda6 is sorted correctly but, evidently, indicated as "home".

@daveturrey
Is there any difference (in part. ordering) when having the frugals on hdb?

cheers/
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Slackos & 214X, ... and Q6xx
[color=darkred]Nämen, vaf....[/color] [color=green]ln -s /dev/null MHHP[/color]

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mut_scrollbars

#506 Post by MinHundHettePerro »

Hello, ttuuxxx!

I really like Jesse's scrollbars-mut, but, can you make the pup-head position flexible :) (see screenshot)?

cheers/
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Slackos & 214X, ... and Q6xx
[color=darkred]Nämen, vaf....[/color] [color=green]ln -s /dev/null MHHP[/color]

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#507 Post by davesurrey »

MinHundHettePerro:
Well I have 214X frugal on hdb3 and swap on hda2 but the order is slightly different to yours.

hda1, hda3, hdb1, hdb2, hdb5, hdb6.....hdb10, hdb11, home, cdrom...

Certainly usable and a great improvement to what it was. In fact I think I prefer it this way.
Thanks
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#508 Post by ttuuxxx »

sounds like we got a keeper, I'll work on the graphics tomorrow, kind of tired today, restless sleep last night.
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#509 Post by OlddogNewtricks »

Great news (for me anyway)
I've always assumed my WPA2 encrypted router (Thompson Speedtouch 585v6) would not connect because the kernel was too old and lacked modules. However in an idle moment when it was switched on I booted up 214X4, tapped in my settings & wow it worked. So tried pup 2.14, which needed a new network wizard & gtkdialog3 to run it. Then 2.16 which needed just the net wizard & finally 2.13 which would not work whatever I installed. It was on this pup that I did all my wireless testing for this kernel therefore leading me up the garden path regarding kernel, modules, wirless tools, wpa_supplicant & all the rest.

So well done ttuuxxx for helping to solve this mystery & of course dougal for his endless work on net wizards.

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#510 Post by ttuuxxx »

you welcome OlddogNewtricks I did add, about 10 newer,& gtkdialog3 and I used the I updated the network manager using 4 series parts, If you notice now at the top it shows your ip and net address, It didn't before, that was a "coming soon", lol I was counting on that it would do some good :) So I guess it did, lol
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#511 Post by davesurrey »

ttuuxxx wrote:
sounds like we got a keeper,
Well it certainly is working for me.
Just a couple of things I've noticed which are details but...

1. MHHP asked about the sort order of the icons. His and mine seemed different. Mine had "home" after the other partitions. Then I added two more partitions and home kept its position and the new two partition icons followed it. So not very logical. This was the case even after a reboot.
See screenshot below. hdb12 and hdb13 have been added after I installed the mut-scroll-pet and made the file mods as per MHHT's posts above.

2. I did say way back that although I can now see partitions greater than hdb9 I still get an error message on boot up saying that partitions 9 and above can't be mounted.
I had a look in /etc/Hotpup/ and only see 8 "add_device_to_fstab " files. Is this the reason? I thought I might be able to copy and paste to make some others but using TkDiff to compare them shows several differences that confused me so I have left well alone for others more knowledgable to have a look.

I have also attached my modified pmount file and /dev folder

/dev has been modified by adding nodes up to and including 16 for all hdX up to hdg and all sdX up to sdf.

/usr/sbin/pmount has the mods around line 370 and 505 so that pmount shows a complete list of all partitions and the sort order is ascending not descending. I have included partitions up to 16 for both hdX and sdX.


I have NOT included the changes to line 54 of /etc/Hotpup/add_icons_for_device1 and /etc/Hotpup/add_icons_for_device3 which MHHT identified above to fix the icon sort order.

I have NOT included the small fix to the last line of /sbin/probepart to fix the sorting on Pmount.

Both these last two changes need to be made.

Think that's it.
Thanks for your patience.
Hope you get a good night's sleep.

Cheers
Dave
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#512 Post by ttuuxxx »

wow dave thats nuts, I've never seen so many drive icons on the desktop like that, but it actually looks real nice :)
anyways calling it a early night
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#513 Post by davesurrey »

ttuuxxx wrote:
wow dave thats nuts, I've never seen so many drive icons on the desktop
Well this is my test PC and I run a load of distros to learn as well as to "support" a few folk who I have persuaded to use one or other of these.

In fact it's worse than you think because even just on hdb3 I have 8 frugal installs of Puppy.

A few days ago I had:
Windows XP Pro
Windows Seven
Ubuntu 9.04
Debian Lenny
Fedora 10
Arch
Crunchbang
SliTaz cooking
SliTaz 2
Vector Linux
Tiny Core
Sugar
and of course Puppy.

Sleep well. If you can't perhaps start counting Distros. :)
Dave

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#514 Post by legendofthor »

G'day,
"The bandwidth for the month of June 2009 has been exceeded.

My apologies to all the users.

We will be back in July 2009"

Anyone else hosting this?
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#515 Post by ttuuxxx »

legendofthor wrote:G'day,
"The bandwidth for the month of June 2009 has been exceeded.

My apologies to all the users.

We will be back in July 2009"

Anyone else hosting this?
Cheers
Martin
Thats good news because thats the older version :)
here's the latest verion
http://www.ttuuxxx.gposil.com/2.14X/iso/214X4.iso
I should be updating it in about another 4 days or so, I don't mind doing it say once a week. Better that way to get things fixed and gives me some time to work on puppy 4.15
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