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What is the best Puppy Version ever, LOL
2.14x
24%
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2.14x
12%
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2.14x
30%
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Other: 2.14x only
33%
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davesurrey

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PostPosted: Wed 24 Jun 2009, 06:35    Post_subject:  

ttuuxxx:

1. I have attached a screenshot of the latest MUT showing overlapping volume labels. I have sent you similar before but here's the latest you asked for.

2. The other issues I mentioned above don't (in my feeble understanding) seem to relate just to MUT, but to either PMount or the problem that Puppys don't seem to come with enough dev files for some of us. Plus the icon order issue.

3. As this is taking up so much of your time can I suggest you drop it and go on to more important issues for the rest of the crowd. Perhaps if you bring out a 214x5 with the fixes that you have it would be good to test that.

Just some of my thoughts .
Dave
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ttuuxxx


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PostPosted: Wed 24 Jun 2009, 07:04    Post_subject:  

Hi Dave

I don't mind spending my time on it Smile its always better to get things fixed if its possible, plus I'm also working on the next 4.15 build, Barry suggested that I add the better parts of 4.2 to it and update some graphics, Since I built a good portion of the packages in 4.2, I have a very good understanding on what works and what doesn't plus what people liked and didn't etc. So I said ya sure, so I'm working on the graphics to start with, almost finished the mimes, next is the icons, then the packages, some scripts etc. Smile. Only thing is that 415 base is 101MB and I need to keep it at 100MB, lol plus add apps, buts ok I found some room, Smile
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MinHundHettePerro


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PostPosted: Wed 24 Jun 2009, 08:55    Post_subject:  scrolling mut  

Hello there!
Another day, another mut Smile .
The scrollbar mut is absolutely brilliant!!! Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

On the sorting issue:
Editing the last line of /sbin/probepart
Quote:
echo -e "$OUTPUT" #| sort
makes pmount display the partitions in correct descending order. To set it to ascending order pmount has to be reversely hacked to counteract the effect of the following lines of pmount
Code:
367   # Dougal: add temp param, so order won't be reversed...
368    TEMPGUICODE=""
Regarding the ordering of HotPup icons, I haven't found out the reason yet.
In general, I have a vague hunch that the culprit of the strange ordering is the "sort"-command.

I once ditched 3.01 because I couldn't mount sdc9 and even if MUT would see it, it couldn't display it on screen. Sad
So, everything I learn from this discussion, I apply to 3.01, making it useful again. Smile

Thanks


cheers/
MHHP

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davesurrey

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PostPosted: Wed 24 Jun 2009, 10:49    Post_subject:  

Good afternoon MHHP (well it is in the UK):

Great news about your fix to sort the partitions in Pmount (although the Australia way of sorting upside down is interesting to say the least.)

As well as the fix in /sbin/probepart I re-ordered the lines 376 to 388 in /usr/sbin/pmount and Pmount is now sorting correctly.

By the way I guess you also found a /sbin/probepart6 file as well for "exotic fs".

Thanks for this.

ttuuxxx perhaps you'll put this fix in the next version, please.

If only the icons would behave the same.

Thanks again
Dave
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ttuuxxx


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PostPosted: Wed 24 Jun 2009, 14:12    Post_subject:  

As you know guys I don't have any issues with partitions on my sata2 drives, Could one of you that has the numbering issues etc add what ever fixes to mut you implemented and post the file here for us to try, If it works all around then I could safely install it in the next release Smile, just tar.gz it up if thats easier than making a pet.
thanks
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clarf


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PostPosted: Wed 24 Jun 2009, 17:40    Post_subject:  

Hi ttuuxxx, I didn´t notice before the firmware files from "bcm43xx-firmware.pet" (http://puppyfiles.org/dotpupsde/dotpups/Wifi/drivers-for-Puppy-2.12-to-2.14/) are not present in Puppy 214x4, many Broadcom cards (includes mine) need these files to work.

Please include these in next release, the Broadcom-firmware pet is just 28KB.

Thank you ttuuxxx.

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PostPosted: Wed 24 Jun 2009, 17:40    Post_subject:  

I have a small request, ttuuxxx could you please create a html file in /usr/share/doc with the changes made in Puppy 214xn. There are some informational html files in this directory for Puppy 2.14R (release-2.14.htm and release-2.14r.html).

We should create a new incremental one for each new release that you launch, release-2.14rxx.htm (or something like that).

I´ll send a base .html file in short....

EDIT: Uploaded Changelog file, ttuuxxx please take a look on it
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MinHundHettePerro


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PostPosted: Wed 24 Jun 2009, 17:51    Post_subject:  HotPup desktop icon order  

Good evening, all!
Fix for my problem with HotPup desktop icon (dis-)order Smile Smile Smile :
Delete what is marked in red below, from line 54 of these files
    /etc/HotPup/add_icons_for_device1
    /etc/HotPup/add_icons_for_device3
(The other files of the same type, with different numbers don't contain the "offending code".)
Quote:
54 MNTPNTS="`grep -F "/dev/$ADEV" $FSTAB | grep -F -v '#' | tr '\t' ' ' | tr -s ' '| sort | cut -d' ' -f2`"
This fixes my discontinuous icon ordering. Seems like the strange ordering would strike blindly to certain devices (not really, but it depends on $ADEV and $ASD, which in turn depend grep:ing of /sys/block etc. etc. in /etc/HotPup/HotPup.sh)

Hope this info helps, please, try it out. Smile Cool

cheers/
MHHP

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davesurrey

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PostPosted: Wed 24 Jun 2009, 20:13    Post_subject:  

MHHT:
Congratulations on fixing this.
I tried your mods and all icons now appear in order (apart from the one that includes the 214 puppy but I can understand and certainly it's most probably a better way to sort it.)
You really have helped put to bed a lot of these little niggles for which many thanks.
Dave
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MinHundHettePerro


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PostPosted: Wed 24 Jun 2009, 21:02    Post_subject: HotPup desktop icons  

HotPup desktop icons:

I boot 214Xn frugally off of hda6 (hda4 extended, hda7 swap) and here's how it shows on my desktop, hda6 is sorted correctly but, evidently, indicated as "home".

@daveturrey
Is there any difference (in part. ordering) when having the frugals on hdb?

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MHHP
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PostPosted: Wed 24 Jun 2009, 21:40    Post_subject: mut_scrollbars  

Hello, ttuuxxx!

I really like Jesse's scrollbars-mut, but, can you make the pup-head position flexible Smile (see screenshot)?

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davesurrey

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PostPosted: Thu 25 Jun 2009, 02:46    Post_subject:  

MinHundHettePerro:
Well I have 214X frugal on hdb3 and swap on hda2 but the order is slightly different to yours.

hda1, hda3, hdb1, hdb2, hdb5, hdb6.....hdb10, hdb11, home, cdrom...

Certainly usable and a great improvement to what it was. In fact I think I prefer it this way.
Thanks
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PostPosted: Thu 25 Jun 2009, 04:39    Post_subject:  

sounds like we got a keeper, I'll work on the graphics tomorrow, kind of tired today, restless sleep last night.
ttuuxxx

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OlddogNewtricks

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PostPosted: Thu 25 Jun 2009, 05:56    Post_subject:  

Great news (for me anyway)
I've always assumed my WPA2 encrypted router (Thompson Speedtouch 585v6) would not connect because the kernel was too old and lacked modules. However in an idle moment when it was switched on I booted up 214X4, tapped in my settings & wow it worked. So tried pup 2.14, which needed a new network wizard & gtkdialog3 to run it. Then 2.16 which needed just the net wizard & finally 2.13 which would not work whatever I installed. It was on this pup that I did all my wireless testing for this kernel therefore leading me up the garden path regarding kernel, modules, wirless tools, wpa_supplicant & all the rest.

So well done ttuuxxx for helping to solve this mystery & of course dougal for his endless work on net wizards.
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PostPosted: Thu 25 Jun 2009, 06:01    Post_subject:  

you welcome OlddogNewtricks I did add, about 10 newer,& gtkdialog3 and I used the I updated the network manager using 4 series parts, If you notice now at the top it shows your ip and net address, It didn't before, that was a "coming soon", lol I was counting on that it would do some good Smile So I guess it did, lol
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