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What is the best Puppy Version ever, LOL
2.14x
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2.14x
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2.14x
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davesurrey

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PostPosted: Tue 23 Jun 2009, 10:18    Post_subject:  

MinHundHettePerro

Yes /mnt/hdb9 definitely exists. I also deleted /dev/hdb9 and remade it using your mknod method. But still get mount errors on booting even though all works fine apart from that.

Thanks for the extra info on adding partitions to Pmount. I'll file it away for when needed. Good stuff.

In general I have to be realistic and say that most likely the average user of 214x won't have a ton of partitions so I doubt they'll find such problems common.

But TeenPup for example is also based on 214. Both 214X and TeenPup seem really good potential distros that I'd like to expand them out to be used not only on the old stuff but also on other kit. Plus I have a curiosity to learn how this all works. Hence my interest.

Thanks for the educational posts.

Cheers
Dave
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ttuuxxx


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PostPosted: Tue 23 Jun 2009, 12:56    Post_subject:  

Hi guys I found this newer mut2/pmount, and compiled it, for the people having isues, could you please try these 2, just extract the package anywhere and open the folder, then click on
pmount-dingo6
and then try
pmount-puppy213
thanks
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OlddogNewtricks

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PostPosted: Tue 23 Jun 2009, 13:29    Post_subject:  

I'm not having issues but tried your test mut's.

pmount-dingo6
would only show the floppy drive

pmount-puppy213
same

2 for the trash ttuuxxx?.
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MinHundHettePerro


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PostPosted: Tue 23 Jun 2009, 13:32    Post_subject: pmounters  

Hello, ttuuxxx!
Tried the pmounts; the dingo6 variant has the nice feature that it sorts the drives like e.g. sdc1, sdc2, ..., sdc9, sdc10, unlike the 214X-pmount, which sorts like sdc1, sdc10, sdc11, ... sdc2.
But, I need the tabbed interface of 214X-pmount, since I have so many partitions and use 800x600 res.

213 variant; crap Smile Sorts the drives in what seems like completely random numerical order.

My wish, if I may, is to keep the 214X pmounter, because of the tabbed interface. Smile

Maybe the 214X- and dingo6- variants could be blended Smile .

cheers/
MHHP

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PostPosted: Tue 23 Jun 2009, 14:14    Post_subject: Re: pmounters  

MinHundHettePerro wrote:
Hello, ttuuxxx!
Tried the pmounts; the dingo6 variant has the nice feature that it sorts the drives like e.g. sdc1, sdc2, ..., sdc9, sdc10, unlike the 214X-pmount, which sorts like sdc1, sdc10, sdc11, ... sdc2.
But, I need the tabbed interface of 214X-pmount, since I have so many partitions and use 800x600 res.

213 variant; crap Smile Sorts the drives in what seems like completely random numerical order.

My wish, if I may, is to keep the 214X pmounter, because of the tabbed interface. Smile

Maybe the 214X- and dingo6- variants could be blended Smile .

cheers/
MHHP


I could add the tabs (I can do that,lol) but OlddogNewtricks had issue with only seeing the floppy, lol it worked perfect on my pc, just wondered if it could see all those hard drives like 9+ partitions that users have had issues with.
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davesurrey

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PostPosted: Tue 23 Jun 2009, 14:17    Post_subject:  

Not sure what is going on???
ttuuxxx I just did exactly what you said and, like OlddogNewtricks I could only see the Floppy Drive. Yet MHHP seems to have been able to get it to work??!!
What magic did you do this time, MHHP?
Dave

EDIT:
Thinks ...My test PC and OlddogNewtricks uses PATA (hdx) I believe. MHHT and ttuuxxx use SATA (sdx)? Could this be a reason here?
Grasping at straws here.
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MinHundHettePerro


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PostPosted: Tue 23 Jun 2009, 16:15    Post_subject: pmount-dingo6
Sub_title: update
 

Running pmount-dingo6 from the directory where I un-packed it shows all partitions correctly. Forgot to test mounting before Embarassed , so I did that now; doesn't seem like anything is mounted, pmount disappears (for a long time). Copied mut and pmount-dingo6 (and renamed it) to /usr/sbin, now it works perfectly. The new mut, though, seems like a much better back-end to pmount than the probepart/probedisk used in pmount-214X. I think I might try to make a tabbed version of pmount-dingo6, if and when I get the time (there's always a shortage of that).

Maybe the reason it all works so well for me is that my "modern" main rig is a PIII 533MHz, 192 MB with disks:
sh-3.00# mut probepart -m
/dev/hda1|ext2|8|Linux Ext2Fs
/dev/hda2|ext2|65|Linux Ext2Fs
/dev/hda3|vfat|65|Win95 FAT32
/dev/hda4|none|12872|Extended (contains other slice)
/dev/hda5|ext2|1044|Linux Ext2Fs
/dev/hda6|vfat|9113|Win95 FAT32
/dev/hda7|swap|534|Linux Swap
/dev/hda8|ext2|937|Linux Ext2Fs
/dev/hda9|ext2|1241|Linux Ext2Fs
/dev/hdb1|vfat|13662|Win95 FAT32 (LBA)
/dev/hdc|iso9660|0|HL-DT-ST GCE-8526B 1.03
/dev/hdd|iso9660|0|HL-DT-STDVD-RAM GH22NP20 1.02
/dev/sda1|vfat|9097|Win95 FAT32 (LBA)
/dev/sdb1|vfat|2163|Win95 FAT32
/dev/sdc1|vfat|34356|Win95 FAT32 (LBA)
/dev/sdc2|vfat|34356|Win95 FAT32 (LBA)
/dev/sdc3|vfat|34356|Win95 FAT32 (LBA)
/dev/sdc4|none|146985|Win98 Extended (LBA)
/dev/sdc5|ext2|8587|Linux Ext2Fs
/dev/sdc6|vfat|34356|Win95 FAT32
/dev/sdc7|vfat|34356|Win95 FAT32
/dev/sdc8|vfat|34356|Win95 FAT32
/dev/sdc9|vfat|9557|Win95 FAT32
/dev/sdc10|ext2|8587|Linux Ext2Fs
/dev/sdc11|ext3|4293|Linux Ext2Fs
/dev/sdc12|ext3|4293|Linux Ext2Fs
/dev/sdc13|ext3|4293|Linux Ext2Fs
/dev/sdc14|vfat|4301|Win95 FAT32
(sizes in MB)
hda, hdb - IDE, sda, sdb - SCSI, sdc - ext. USB

cheers/
MHHP

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PostPosted: Tue 23 Jun 2009, 16:59    Post_subject:  

davesurrey wrote:
Not sure what is going on???
ttuuxxx I just did exactly what you said and, like OlddogNewtricks I could only see the Floppy Drive. Yet MHHP seems to have been able to get it to work??!!
What magic did you do this time, MHHP?
Dave

EDIT:
Thinks ...My test PC and OlddogNewtricks uses PATA (hdx) I believe. MHHT and ttuuxxx use SATA (sdx)? Could this be a reason here?
Grasping at straws here.


hi Dave try this
Install the package below, refresh your menus, then goto usr/sbin and drag pmount to your desktop and then try it, you also might have to press the refresh button on pmount, also make sure all older versions are closed, ttuuxxx
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PostPosted: Tue 23 Jun 2009, 18:55    Post_subject:  

Thanks for this ttuuxxx.
Unfortunately I still get just Floppy Drive in the window. Really confused what is going on here as MHHT seems to have it working.
Dave
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PostPosted: Tue 23 Jun 2009, 19:15    Post_subject:  

dave did you make sure all pmount/mut were closed, use menu/task manager, also unmount all your partitions, probably even better to reboot, I had that problem also because my dvd was mounted with old pmount, so I had to unmount the dvd drive first, and restart x-server, Then I had to drag the usr/sbin/pmount to the desktop. That was strange that the desktop one didn't change and I had to manually replace it. Then finally it worked.
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PostPosted: Tue 23 Jun 2009, 20:01    Post_subject:  

Yes I've just done another reinstall of 214X4 (and taken off TeenPup to avoid any clash of 214 distros) and followed your instructions to the tee.
I get two files in /usr/sbin.

pmount which gives the same FDD only icon as per the last jpg above

Also pmount-puppy213 which initially gave me a window containing my FDD, and both DVD drives but no HDDs. Then on clicking it again I get the FDD only window.

This on a new install!??

Too tired and despondant so giving up for the night. Thanks for all your help today ttuuxxx.

Dave
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PostPosted: Wed 24 Jun 2009, 01:23    Post_subject:  

aaaaaah dave I don't blame ya on giving up for the night,
hey guys here another MUT but with scrollbars, please try this one Smile
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PostPosted: Wed 24 Jun 2009, 03:13    Post_subject:  

Another day, another set of challenges...

This morning I deleted everything I could find that related to anything about any version of 214. Then did a frugal reinstall of 214X4 and installed Mut011tcl-with-scroll.pet
It worked. Smile

I still have to add any hdb's in /dev if they are larger than hdb9 and in Mut the label text still overlaps the partition size, plus the desktop icons still are not contiguous and the order in Pmount is still not 1 to 12 but 10, 11, 12, 1, 2 3... but at least it is working again.

Cheers
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PostPosted: Wed 24 Jun 2009, 04:29    Post_subject:  

This is so funny, I never seen so much messing around with pmount/mut before, its almost like watching a soap-opera unfold, lol.
Well its all good and lots of fun trying to work it out Smile
Do you have a screenshot so I can give it to Jesse.
Probably one that doesn't have anything added, just what it looks like by default.
ttuuxxx

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PostPosted: Wed 24 Jun 2009, 06:03    Post_subject: hotpup  

Isn't hotpup working?

The most resilient build of MUT I've seen is in 2.13 - must be the TCL/TK combination there, too.
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