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11
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#4591 Post by nubc »

There is a spelling error in the "214X Log Out Screen". The word "Switch to Joe's Window Manager" is misspelled as "Swith".

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#4592 Post by ttuuxxx »

nubc wrote:There is a spelling error in the "214X Log Out Screen". The word "Switch to Joe's Window Manager" is misspelled as "Swith".
I already fixed that in top9 the latest release.
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#4593 Post by ttuuxxx »

nubc wrote:ttuuxxx wrote:
nubc wrote:

EDIT: Wary 5.1.1 will play this video without error. Classic Pup 2.14X Top8 plays it with extreme stuttering. Can someone please confirm.
http://vimeo.com/6082433


I would say that is because 2.14X uses one the latest flashes and usually Barry uses an older version, If you swapped flash versions from wary to 2.14x I bet it would fix your issue, The reason I use newer flash versions is because certain flash apps demands the latest version, facebook games is one.
Substituting 'libflashplayer.so' from Wary to Classic Pup did not fix the issue. I did the substitution in usr/lib/mozilla/plugins directory, renaming the old flashplayer.
Latest Seamonkey
http://www.smokey01.com/ttuuxxx/2.14X/S ... -2.3.3.pet

If you install the seamonkey pet above and then turn the HD <--High Definition off, the video plays fine, not choppy at all, but if you turn it on, it becomes choppy.
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Re: TOP9

#4594 Post by sheldonisaac »

MinHundHettePerro wrote:
sheldonisaac wrote:All I did was (under TOP8) click the TOP9 .iso, and copied the

INITRD.GZ 1083823
PUP_214X.SFS 109420544
VMLINUZ 1751229

to the E:\TOP9\ directory
And the zdrv_214X.sfs???

hth :)/ MHHP
ttuuxx said "good catch MHHP "

Agreed.

I will copy that, too.

Yay, LAN and Internet works!

Sorry I didn't think to look for the net module in zdrv_214X.sfs
(Smacking head)

Thanks again!!!

Sheldon

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Re: TOP9

#4595 Post by James C »

ttuuxxx wrote:
sheldonisaac wrote: When I boot TOP9, there are only a few modules loaded (as compared with TOP8, which I'm using at the moment).

The "missing" modules include
8139too; so I can't access the network adapter.

Any help will be much appreciated.

Thanks again,

Sheldon
I Just checked and 8139too loads perfectly, did you check the md5sum of the iso image, also check if your cdrw/cd etc what every your using isn't scratched.
keep me informed please
ttuuxxx
My Athlon XP box uses that Realtek driver.......worked fine here.

EDIT:

I've forgotten to copy the zdrv myself.... :)

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#4596 Post by ttuuxxx »

nubc I use default precompiled releases of FireFox and Seamonkey, for 2 good reasons, one it saves me a couple of hours each in compiling time, second reason is that they both autoupdate, which means you can always get the latest version automatically which many users really like, but on the other hand the sizes are larger and they aren't compiled specifically for 2.14X, this might result in slower video, but is very unlikely due to the fact I usually tailor 2.14X towards the mozilla releases, like glibC etc. But the HD would make a large difference due to overall video size.
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#4597 Post by JonT »

Manual frugal install of top 9; booted fine. Solid WPA wireless connection made easily; connection survived reboot. Ixquick is new to me; I like the idea and after light use, seems fine. Watched short flash videos, changed theme, icons, briefly checked out a few apps, no problems found.

oligon10 wrote:
Hi Ttuuxxx, haven't really been keeping up on Classic Pup due to wireless compatability issues. But, did do a quick test this afternoon. Using Firefox, went to http://www.insideline.com and experienced crash of Classic Pup while running in livemode.
Checked out inside.com [edit: insideline.com]; it did crash X; then top 8 did also. Sometimes it crashed to a prompt, sometimes to a black screen. I next copied top 9's Aurora firefox directory to a mounted drive, doing the thing DaveS has recommended to share one copy of a browser among various puppies. Got retro lupu 5.25, because it is browserless, used the Aurora copy. On opening Aurora, the MediaPlayerConnectivity Wizard opened; I cancelled. insideline loaded fine. Back to top 9; insideline okay now???? Is the Media...Wizard a clue to those who know? Back to top 9. pfix=ram, insideline.com crashed to prompt and I saved xerrs.log, attached, as a possible help. Remove the .tar.gz, it's really a text file.

nubc wrote:
EDIT: Wary 5.1.1 will play this video without error. Classic Pup 2.14X Top8 plays it with extreme stuttering. Can someone please confirm.
http://vimeo.com/6082433


Yes, it did stutter, but not if I let it buffer, then play it (nice video). Could it be merely a slow server or net congestion?

A small thing and no different than top 8: on first connection, it takes two clicks of the "scan" button in the internet connection wizard for my network to be discovered (reproducible even with strong signal). Surely even a newcomer wouldn't give up on one click.

Thanks for your efforts, HTH,
Jon
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#4599 Post by nubc »

Ya, that video was probably slow on the server side. Not really worth changing anything in Classic Pup. I like to keep it out-of-the-box as much as possible, so flashplayer is back to original now.

nwipe is good for blasting the entire hard drive/partition, but not a single file.

Here are some considerations for the wipe utility
http://wipe.sourceforge.net/

After some investigating, perhaps a utility based on shred and scrub commands is better for secure file deletion
http://www.slac.stanford.edu/comp/unix/ ... erase.html
How to delete files permanently and securely in Linux
http://techthrob.com/2009/03/02/howto-d ... -in-linux/
Securely delete files with shred
http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/openso ... -shred/188
About.com: shred Linux/unix command
http://linux.about.com/library/cmd/blcmdl1_shred.htm
shred invocation
http://www.gnu.org/software/coreutils/m ... ation.html

download srm (secure rm) - 97.5 KB
http://sourceforge.net/projects/srm/

I didn't find a download for the Linux/Unix program shred, which is apparently missing in Puppy. Debian has the shred program, but I believe it's part of coreutils. I'm glad to be using ext2 filesystem for the purpose of secure file deletion, because journalled file systems seem to complicate the operation.
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Re: Firefox crashes

#4600 Post by James C »

oligin10 wrote: Using Firefox, went to http://www.insideline.com and experienced crash of Classic Pup while running in livemode. Tried going to same site after startx and it duplicates problem.
No problem on that site from my full install of Top 9 on my old P3 test box.

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Re: Classic Pup 2.14X -- Updated 2 series

#4601 Post by sheldonisaac »

ttuuxxx wrote: 214x-Top9.0 ISO
Sorry to be so dumb - first time I've seen a screensaver.
Very nice, but how to disable it etc etc??

Many thanks.

Sheldon

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#4602 Post by James C »

Working fine here.
Since Firefox went to the quicker release schedule I've started using SeaMonkey more anyway.Seems more stable.

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Firefox

#4603 Post by oligin10 »

Hi guys, just an update. Tried Classic Pup Top 9 on another computer. First time, was on Compaq Evo desktop, and it crashed Classic Pup when trying to go to insideline.com from livecd with no save file (has Peppermint OS loaded). Second time, again livecd with no save file, on a Sony Vaio laptop, and same results. Maybe it is due to running in livecd mode. Compaq has 256m ram with 512m swap, and second computer has 768m ram with 500m swap. Thanks, Rob
P.S. Ttuuxxx, love the boot screen and the download extra drivers feature.

Sorry, forgot to mention also that I have Opera portable installed on Sony Vaio, and it goes to website and works just fine.

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Re: Firefox

#4604 Post by sheldonisaac »

oligin10 wrote: Tried Classic Pup Top 9 on another computer. First time, was on Compaq Evo desktop, and it crashed Classic Pup when trying to go to insideline.com from livecd with no save file (has Peppermint OS loaded). Second time, again livecd with no save file, on a Sony Vaio laptop, and same results. Maybe it is due to running in livecd mode. Compaq has 256m ram with 512m swap, and second computer has 768m ram with 500m swap. Thanks, P.S. Ttuuxxx, love the boot screen and the download extra drivers feature.
Rob, FWIW, I have an ASUS P5A motherboard with AMD K2-6-450 and 768MB

I was able to get to http://www.insideline.com OK, using Opera 11.01 under TOP9.

Thanks, ttuuxx, but the Opera 11.51 pet installs, but does not run;
segmentation fault.
I think that happened previously; the newer Opera makes some assumption about hardware, don't recall what.

Where's this "download extra drivers feature"?

And where's the SFSfile converter?


Thanks,

Sheldon

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#4605 Post by oligin10 »

Hi Sheldon, it seems to be a problem when using Firefox Aurora, which is already installed. I have no problems with Opera going to same website. jonT has experienced same problem and hopefully problem will be resolved. Thanks, Rob
P.S. Download extra drivers is under network connection wizard which I ran by clicking on small computers in tray on bottom right side of screen. It is what shows active interfaces.

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#4606 Post by clarf »

JonT wrote:Attachment attempt on previous post failed. Try again.
Hi JonT,

The log file shows:

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Backtrace:
0: X(xf86SigHandler+0x80) [0x80b72b0]
1: [0xb7f83420]
2: /usr/X11R7/lib/xorg/modules/libfb.so(fbComposite+0x4ac) [0xb7aba5fc]
3: /usr/X11R7/lib/xorg/modules/libxaa.so(XAAComposite+0x191) [0xb7a7cea1]
4: X [0x8148462]
5: X(CompositePicture+0xda) [0x813c12a]
6: X [0x813d716]
7: X [0x813fe13]
8: X(Dispatch+0x1c8) [0x8088228]
9: X(main+0x49d) [0x806fe2d]
10: /lib/libc.so.6(__libc_start_main+0xd5) [0xb7ce6a25]
11: X(FontFileCompleteXLFD+0x81) [0x806f341]
It could be related to composite extension needed but not found???. Puppy 214X does not have composite enabled by default, please check the /etc/xorg.conf file and add the following line:

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Section "Extensions"
   Option "Composite" "Enable"
EndSection
You can add other options to speed up render process, look at: http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=50428

Also try different display resolutions.

Then restart Xorg, try again and please feedback.

Be aware if you run xorgwizard to change display resolution or reboot the xorg.conf file will be recreated and your changes lost.

clarf

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#4607 Post by ttuuxxx »

Hi guys do you want me to make a release with the latest firefox 3 series, it's been updated with the latest security fixes. The people at mozilla have been updating it since Firefox 4,5,6,7 are all beta testing versions
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#4608 Post by James C »

Looking good.......

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Re: Classic Pup 2.14X -- Updated 2 series

#4609 Post by ttuuxxx »

sheldonisaac wrote:
ttuuxxx wrote: 214x-Top9.0 ISO
Sorry to be so dumb - first time I've seen a screensaver.
Very nice, but how to disable it etc etc??

Many thanks.

Sheldon
just delete the link in /root/Startup/xscreensaver and restartX
or if its just a one off, open a terminal and type killall xscreensaver

ttuuxxx
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http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
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Re: Firefox

#4610 Post by ttuuxxx »

sheldonisaac wrote:
Where's this "download extra drivers feature"? Click the Connect icon on the desktop its one of the buttons.

And where's the SFSfile converter? open the folder /root/SfS-converter and drop a sfs on either buttons and read the how to :)
also you can update it by installing http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... h&id=46268


Thanks,

Sheldon
http://audio.online-convert.com/ <-- excellent site
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)

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