Classic Pup 2.14X -- Updated 2 series

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#4531 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Wed 07 Sep 2011, 13:34

here's a fireworks screensaver, just install it and restart x server and wait 5 mins, I also made it disable the screensaver when gxine is running

ttuuxxx

openwell2 · #4532 Post by **openwell2** » Wed 07 Sep 2011, 14:27

@Ttuuxxx,
I am having trouble finding compatible pets that have dependencies.
Can you suggest a good repository? that includes dependencies?
I tried to install seamonkey 1.1.18 with addons like the one Barry included in Wary 5.12 .
The list of missing dependencies totalled about 50 items?
Got similar missing list when I tried the Seamonkey in the package manger of Top 8.0?
I have been using puppy for about 6 months and have tried several other puppies.
Usually, I am only missing a few libs as dependencies.
And I can search in the forum and add them without much trouble.
Just not sure which packages are compatible with Top 8.0
Many thanks for any help or suggestions.

#4533 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Wed 07 Sep 2011, 14:58

openwell2 wrote:@Ttuuxxx,
I am having trouble finding compatible pets that have dependencies.
Can you suggest a good repository? that includes dependencies?
I tried to install seamonkey 1.1.18 with addons like the one Barry included in Wary 5.12 .
The list of missing dependencies totalled about 50 items?
Got similar missing list when I tried the Seamonkey in the package manger of Top 8.0?
I have been using puppy for about 6 months and have tried several other puppies.
Usually, I am only missing a few libs as dependencies.
And I can search in the forum and add them without much trouble.
Just not sure which packages are compatible with Top 8.0
Many thanks for any help or suggestions.

hi have a look at http://www.smokey01.com/ttuuxxx/2.14X/Software/
ttuuxxx
and http://www.wisdom-seekers.com/puppy214x.html

openwell2 · #4534 Post by **openwell2** » Wed 07 Sep 2011, 15:22

Thank you Ttuuxxx for two great lists of pets.
And such a quick reply.
Will try them out and see how it goes!

MinHundHettePerro · Wed 07 Sep 2011, 21:28

ttuuxxx on 11-08-25 wrote:hi guys I'm working on the next release, it will have a very big update , So it might take a few days.
ttuuxxx

Hello, ttuuxxx

!

How's it going with the update?
No rush, just a-waiting ...

Is a 214X-top9 release imminent

?

Cheers

/ MHHP

#4536 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Wed 07 Sep 2011, 22:02

MinHundHettePerro wrote:
ttuuxxx on 11-08-25 wrote:hi guys I'm working on the next release, it will have a very big update , So it might take a few days.
ttuuxxx
Hello, ttuuxxx !

How's it going with the update?
No rush, just a-waiting ...

Is a 214X-top9 release imminent ?

Cheers / MHHP

Hi hows life ?, Yes I've been working on it, kind of undecided which glib to use, I used the latest stable gtk2 and if works fine but, then I tried to compile gtk3 and it wanted an unstable glib, which needed extra new deps, I just wanted to leave the window open for gtk3, undecided, because its such a large overhaul to change the whole backend, I would hate to do it again in another few months. So I just contemplating which way to go.
ttuuxxx

#4537 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Thu 08 Sep 2011, 13:13

anybody try the screensaver I posted on the top of this page? Should it be added to the default 2.14x iso?
Also do we want to add GTK3 to 2.14X? If so 2.14X would have gtk 1,2,3 included. GTK3 would probably add in the ballpark of 2-3MB compressed to the iso. alot of newer apps are gtk3 only.
ttuuxxx

clarf · #4538 Post by **clarf** » Thu 08 Sep 2011, 15:00

ttuuxxx wrote: Also do we want to add GTK3 to 2.14X? If so 2.14X would have gtk 1,2,3 included. GTK3 would probably add in the ballpark of 2-3MB compressed to the iso. alot of newer apps are gtk3 only.
ttuuxxx

Hi ttuuxxx,

It´s great to know you are working in a new release. How is the little girl growing? Hope everything is OK with your faimly.

In my opinion I won´t go with GTK3 on the main tree, it could add compatibility problems to all apps on 214X. Although we could add newer apps that use GTK3 then we must support those new apps, fix new errors, track any compatibility problem and fight with any GTk3 new issue found... I don´t want to change the actual stable state of 214X, it could have a huge impact.

If you really want to experiment with GTK3, what about separate the work in a new 214X branch/project not intended to be supported (like a proof of concept) and start to replace some core apps (and why stop here? you could change the WM, upgrade kernel, upgrade Xorg, add new drivers, etc). It could be a good exercise but a hell of work for sure.

Talking about kernel upgrade, MHHP how is the patch recognition process from 2.6.18.1 to 2.6.18.8 going? any news about it?.

Waiting for reply boys.

Regards,

JonT · #4539 Post by **JonT** » Thu 08 Sep 2011, 16:41

Hi ttuuxxx,
Just tried the screensaver - works fine and is very nice. I'll keep it.

Now I have a question. Using gnumeric in top 8 for the first time. In making a chart, the little icons to to select columns or whatnot for Name, X & Y data by clicking and dragging don't work for me (hope a picture gets attached). Is this a bug or an intentional simplification? If intentional, no biggie, but obviously I do use the feature.

Continued appreciation of 214X.
Jon

#4540 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Thu 08 Sep 2011, 16:45

clarf wrote: Hi ttuuxxx,

. How is the little girl growing? Hope everything is OK with your faimly.

she's doing great 2 pic's below, she's 7 months now almost time for me to go back to work soon, maybe a couple more months. I want to make sure she's old enough before taking her to a daycare. She's a has a very funny personality and smiles almost 70% of the day, must be the happiest baby I've ever seen.
ttuuxxx

#4541 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Thu 08 Sep 2011, 16:53

JonT wrote:Hi ttuuxxx,
Just tried the screensaver - works fine and is very nice. I'll keep it.

Now I have a question. Using gnumeric in top 8 for the first time. In making a chart, the little icons to to select columns or whatnot for Name, X & Y data by clicking and dragging don't work for me (hope a picture gets attached). Is this a bug or an intentional simplification? If intentional, no biggie, but obviously I do use the feature.

Continued appreciation of 214X.
Jon

Hi John when it comes to spreadsheets/Gnumeric there are better people on this thread who can help you, I did take spreadsheets in school many years ago, but I've never had a use for one, sorry but I wouldn't be much help, but if there is an issue with Gnumeric, I can compile a newer version maybe for the next release.
ttuuxxx

nubc · #4542 Post by **nubc** » Thu 08 Sep 2011, 20:24

Fonts are much improved with Aurora 6 in Top8. What is the situation with VLC? Is it possible to install VLC 1.1.x in Classic Pup? Where can I find the dotpet for VLC? (I didn't find it in the two repos.) Will this dotpup work?
http://dotpups.de/dotpups/Multimedia/

EDIT: Wary 5.1.1 will play this video without error. Classic Pup 2.14X Top8 plays it with extreme stuttering. Can someone please confirm.
http://vimeo.com/6082433

bigpup · #4543 Post by **bigpup** » Fri 09 Sep 2011, 03:32

ttuuxxx,

Here are some wallpapers by futwerk specific to Classic Pup.
If you have something specific you would like to see, he will work with you.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 872#561872

clarf · #4544 Post by **clarf** » Fri 09 Sep 2011, 15:43

Hi ttuuxxx,

You are very lucky she likes to show you her beautiful smile... I´m glad she´s fine and look very healthy... and happy

technosaurus · #4545 Post by **technosaurus** » Fri 09 Sep 2011, 19:33

Gnumeric let's you paste data using _anything_ as the separator. I have found it to be extremely useful for visualizing and sorting package databases and other large files that use "¦" as a separator or is otherwise wierdly formatted

#4546 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Sat 10 Sep 2011, 02:50

nubc wrote: EDIT: Wary 5.1.1 will play this video without error. Classic Pup 2.14X Top8 plays it with extreme stuttering. Can someone please confirm.
http://vimeo.com/6082433

I would say that is because 2.14X uses one the latest flashes and usually Barry uses an older version, If you swapped flash versions from wary to 2.14x I bet it would fix your issue, The reason I use newer flash versions is because certain flash apps demands the latest version, facebook games is one.
ttuuxxx

#4547 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Sat 10 Sep 2011, 02:55

bigpup wrote:ttuuxxx,

Here are some wallpapers by futwerk specific to Classic Pup.
If you have something specific you would like to see, he will work with you.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 872#561872

had a look at them, I like them, but the circle used around the 2.14x logo he made looks a bit choppy.
circles are usually a pain with bitmap images, usually you either have to oversize layer them or blur/blend the edges so it looks more smooth.
Other than that they look very promising, I also looked at the other 300 images he's made. I'll look more deeper into it when I have a bit more time.
ttuuxxx

#4548 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Sat 10 Sep 2011, 02:56

here's the latest uget, looks like they change the icon, I like the older icon better.
ttuuxxx

wuwei · #4549 Post by **wuwei** » Sat 10 Sep 2011, 04:45

openwell2 wrote:Just did full install of top 8.0 and was surprised at the default browser???? (':o')
Aurora 6.2 on beta update channel?????
Seems to be a firefox clone.
Any idea of how to get back to firefox downloaded and set as default browser?
Pet package still has old firefox 1.5 or something?
I can grab firefox from the forum, but page 1 of this thread talks about having to hack plugins for firefox 6.0 or similar?
I have changed preferences so as "not to update".
Any suggestions?
Many thanks

In case you are still interested openwell2:

Do an "about:config" in the URL line and go to the line app.update.channel.
When you change that to read "release" Firefox will only update to stable releases. More options here
http://kb.mozillazine.org/App.update.channel

clarf · #4550 Post by **clarf** » Sat 10 Sep 2011, 16:54

Hi ttuuxxx,

as you are working in the next release, I´ll ask your for three requests:

Add latest gtkdialog thunor version, many features on latest puppy applications need it.
Include my latest pnethood 0.6.8.1 release (has a minor bug fix to handle passwords blank entry and GUI autosize, also new features for latest gtkdialog version)
Add the puppyinstaller update to fix usb installation (also includes GRUB updated instructions) that I posted in this thread some days before.

Thank you,

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