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What is the best Puppy Version ever, LOL
2.14x
20%
 20%  [ 6 ]
2.14x
13%
 13%  [ 4 ]
2.14x
30%
 30%  [ 9 ]
Other: 2.14x only
36%
 36%  [ 11 ]
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ttuuxxx


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PostPosted: Sun 21 Jun 2009, 06:31    Post subject: Re: tests  

tubby wrote:
Morning all, i have now managed to get a full install running well enough to write this.
Firstly there is a problem with installing to hard drive, as reported in earlier releases grub writes a blank menu.lst to the boot partition if you have multiple partitions.
To boot from grub i had to make a boot folder in the partition i installed to and add vmlinux.
This saves editing the original grub, if you want to you can edit grub to point to the pup214r folder that is created by install.
As reported the errors are still showing in xerrs.log, as this is a live report and grows in length the longer you use the distro i am wondering if it is the reason other things are not functioning?, ie keymap/locale, in a loop maybe?.


Hi tubby could it be possible for you to try this grub, its the one from 4 series and I added the config script, basically just install the pet, refresh the menus and then give it a try.
Thanks for your help
ttuuxxx
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PostPosted: Sun 21 Jun 2009, 06:38    Post subject:  

I don't use a mail client, never really ever did either, I just login to my gmail,yahoo,hotmail accounts and use them when I like. So I'm no expert by far on them, But a few years back Simple Mail came out as a FF extension, it was ok but it was lacking in some features, I just tried the latest version, which is really nice and small Smile Smile and its had a lot of improvements, I was wondering if there were any regular Seamonkey mail users out there who might want to compare it?
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addons/versions/5593#version-2.74
I wasn't going to add a email client but being so small and if its any good, I'll add it Smile
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tubby

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PostPosted: Sun 21 Jun 2009, 07:08    Post subject: grub  

ttuuxxx, i have used the posted grub installer and it appears to have worked, it did not create a puppy214 folder just a pointer to Linux on hda2 where i have installed this distro.
Bearing in mind i had already created a boot folder and copied vmlinux over also copied pup_214r.sfs over.
After F1 has finished i will do a fresh install and then try it again.
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PostPosted: Sun 21 Jun 2009, 07:16    Post subject:  

Well I hope that works, sounds promising, Smile and thanks once again for trying it, I don't have any spare hard drives to test it on and the ones I have a lot of files that I wouldn't want to mess up, well over 200GB worth.
Thanks
ttuuxxx

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tubby

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PostPosted: Sun 21 Jun 2009, 10:18    Post subject: grub  

Ok i have now reinstalled and installed the grub pet, grub installed ok and distro booted ok.
As the universal installer makes you install or update an existing grub i had to go through the motions of installing grub to hda1 (my boot partition) and then delete it before installing the new grub pet.
Reinstalled grub and all was ok, the difference noticed was no puppy214r folder in the grub folder on hda1.

Here is the new working menu.lst as generated.

# GRUB configuration file '/boot/grub/menu.lst'.
# generated by 'grubconfig'. Sun Jun 21 15:00:34 2009
#
# The backup copy of the MBR for drive '/dev/hda' is
# here '/boot/grub/mbr.hda.5025'. You can restore it like this.
# dd if=/boot/grub/mbr.hda.5025 of=/dev/hda bs=512 count=1
#
# Start GRUB global section
#timeout 30
color light-gray/blue black/light-gray
gfxmenu /boot/grub/deep_stage1
# End GRUB global section
# Linux bootable partition config begins
title Linux (on /dev/hda1)
root (hd0,0)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda1 ro vga=normal
# Linux bootable partition config ends
# Linux bootable partition config begins
title Linux (on /dev/hda2)
root (hd0,1)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda2 ro vga=normal
# Linux bootable partition config ends
title Install GRUB to floppy disk (on /dev/fd0)
pause Insert a formatted floppy disk and press enter.
root (hd0,0)
setup (fd0)
pause Press enter to continue.
title Install GRUB to Linux partition (on /dev/hda1)
root (hd0,0)
setup (hd0,0)
pause Press enter to continue.
title - For help press 'c', then type: 'help'
root (hd0)
title - For usage examples, type: 'cat /boot/grub/usage.txt'
root (hd0)
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PostPosted: Sun 21 Jun 2009, 10:30    Post subject: Eee Fan Control  

ttuuxxx wrote:
hi the eeepc fan controls are located at the bottom of this page
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=316232#316232
ttuuxxx


Thanks. I guess they existed so will give them a whirl.
Rgds Mike
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PostPosted: Sun 21 Jun 2009, 10:43    Post subject: Re: grub  

tubby wrote:
Ok i have now reinstalled and installed the grub pet, grub installed ok and distro booted ok.
As the universal installer makes you install or update an existing grub i had to go through the motions of installing grub to hda1 (my boot partition) and then delete it before installing the new grub pet.
Reinstalled grub and all was ok, the difference noticed was no puppy214r folder in the grub folder on hda1.


Well that's great news so I can just update the next iso and problem solved Smile Thanks for your help .
As long as it installs and boots up, I'm happy Smile
ttuuxxx

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mcewanw

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PostPosted: Sun 21 Jun 2009, 11:00    Post subject: Re: grub  

tubby wrote:
Ok i have now reinstalled and installed the grub pet, grub installed ok and distro booted ok.
As the universal installer makes you install or update an existing grub i had to go through the motions of installing grub to hda1 (my boot partition) and then delete it before installing the new grub pet.


tubby, you've made me dizzy... you've manage to embed the word "install" seven times in just these two sentences! :-)

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PostPosted: Sun 21 Jun 2009, 11:05    Post subject: boot  

Not so fast ttuuxxx, after shutdown and reboot into my other distro on hda1 it hung with errors.
I had to reboot into this distro on hda2 to look at the grub boot folder on hda1 and found that there was no vmlinux in the folder, so i had to manually copy vmlinux from the distro on hda1 and everything works ok.
So it would seem that as i deleted the original grub folder and installed a new one from this install it did not install a vmlinux. Maybe updating the original would have worked, but as i had a working grub deleting seemed the way to go.
However the new grub pet did the job as far as booting this distro goes.
@mcewanw Only two and one installed in this one, oh dear now it is two installed, oh dear now it is----------- Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun 21 Jun 2009, 11:06    Post subject:  

I just spent well over 1hr trying to make a big pupsave file, lol What a pain, usually in 4 series I just make a 512kb and then it makes a /mnt/home/pupsaveresize.txt file, the if you open it, it will say
524288 <-- amount in kb, so usually I add a 18 in front, reboot and it builds a 18.5GB pupsave, but noooooooo, lol I tried, 18,10,8,7,5,4 and nothing, it would fail on reboot. So then I figured there must be a way to hack this another way, (keep in mind I forgot I already made a new pupsave that was going to be built on next bootup, ooops,lol)
So I went to /etc/rc.d/rc.shutdown and looked at the numbers it provides on shutdown, and I deleted the last number and then added a '0' behind the next number, so when I ran it, it said 10GB, I figured that would be good enough Smile so I rebooted, it said something like 55GB because it must of multiplied the 512 from the storage increase or something, so after about 10mins waiting for this monster to be made, I had enough and did a reset with puppy pfix=ram and checked it out, it was at 38GB pupsave,lol thats my largest to date, lol
So I quickly deleted that mess and started over with a new /etc/rc.d/rc.shutdown, this time I didn't delete and numbers and just added a '0' to the second one and rebooted, it asked what size and 10gb was listed, So I selected that and went with it. Then as it rebooted, I selected puppy pfix=ram again just to check the size. and it was ok. So I did a hard reset and rebooted and now finally Freememory applet says 9.7GB finally now I can get back to compiling gcc, lol
ttuuxxx

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PostPosted: Sun 21 Jun 2009, 11:48    Post subject:  

Hey, is there an iso arround??

Cheers,
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PostPosted: Sun 21 Jun 2009, 11:51    Post subject:  

droope wrote:
Hey, is there an iso arround??

Cheers,
Droope


yes sure this is the latest version
http://www.ttuuxxx.gposil.com/2.14X/iso/214X4.iso
any problems with the download and I'll get you the backup link Smile
ttuuxxx

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davesurrey

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PostPosted: Sun 21 Jun 2009, 12:33    Post subject:  

Just downloaded x4 and have the following comments.

As ever ttuuxxx I think this has all the makings of an excellent release but just trying to help to make it even better. I know that some of this I have reported previously but just want to include it all on one report to hopefully make it easier for you.

1. Live CD..Dillo shows as a blank screen at start up.

2. Using Puppy Universal Installer (PUI)... to make a frugal install....I have 2 HDDs and several partiitions. hdb is the HDD I use for Puppy. I have several frugal installs on hdb3 all under a subdirectory. The PUI asks and I tell it to install to hdb3. It gives me no chance to install to any subdirectory.

3. The PUI installs pup_214R.sfs, pup_save.3fs, and zdrv_214R.sfs onto hdb3 but there is no way of stopping it installing vmlinuz and initrd.gz anywhere other than hdb1/boot/puppy214R/

4. Firefox still has two "most visited" tabs.

5. jwm_config...returns error messages

6. MUT still returns a messy screen if you have volume labels. As shown in previous messages of mine.

7. MUT still doesn't show any partitions over hda9 (as previously reported)

8. Same for pmount.

9. Gparted shows problems with partitions over hda9 as reported before.

10. TkConvert now works...thanks

11. XrunCommandLine , which didn't work, has gone. No replacement.

12. Xmms audio player..which didn't work has gone...so now we are left with Beep media Player...which frankly is ugly and doesn't seem worthy of such a distro.

13. Now no email client. Every one has a personal idea of what should be in a distro but not having an email client does seem to be on the edge. May I suggest even a cut down version be included.

Hope that helps and you take it in the spirit it is written, ie to help improve the great work you have done so far.

Dave
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PostPosted: Sun 21 Jun 2009, 12:34    Post subject:  

Thank you very much ttuuxx, my friend will be glad Wink

If there are any news, i'll let you know.

Cheers,
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PostPosted: Sun 21 Jun 2009, 12:58    Post subject:  

davesurrey wrote:
Just downloaded x4 and have the following comments.

6. MUT still returns a messy screen if you have volume labels. As shown in previous messages of mine. (I don't program tcl, but I'll ask jesse)

7. MUT still doesn't show any partitions over hda9 (as previously reported) (I don't program tcl, but I'll ask jesse)

Hi dave can you try this package and see if it fixes your 2 post above, if so then I'll theme it up and we'll take it from there Smile
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