Classic Pup 2.14X -- Updated 2 series

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Aitch · #4171 Post by **Aitch** » Sat 05 Mar 2011, 21:00

....I made myself a award for 10,000 post...

Nice one, ttuuxxx

A VERY well deserved award!

Thanks for all you've done/achieved

....and thanks for hanging in there through the hard times

Aitch

nancy reagan · #4172 Post by **nancy reagan** » Sat 05 Mar 2011, 21:21

James C wrote:Congrats on making it to 10,000 posts ................

Thanks and up to your 100.000 th ?

MinHundHettePerro · Sat 05 Mar 2011, 23:54

nancy reagan wrote:
James C wrote:Congrats on making it to 10,000 posts ................
Thanks and up to your 100.000 th ?

Nah, nance, let's celebrate him on a linear scale, next time at 20k

. Your logarithmic step will only set his post-rate to go off exponentially

.

Happy 10k, ttuuxxx

!!!!

Cheers

/
MHHP

eternal-sunshine · Mon 07 Mar 2011, 19:00

ttuuxxx , MHHP and others:

MinHundHettePerro wrote:
eternal-sunshine wrote:
Hello ttuuxxx,
I tried using pup 2.17 and it worked, that is it recognised my sata drive in the laptop. As I said all other pups I have tried based on 412, 431, 520 recognise the laptop drive except your 214X. It's a real shame as I so dearly wanted to use 214X in this machine. Is there anything that can be done?
Thank you.
Hello !
Pup217.1 had K2.6.21.5, while pup214[R|X] has K2.6.18.1. I just checked (with my less knowledgeable tinkering mind ) the kernel config for K2.6.18.1 and couldn't see any obvious module needed for SATA being excluded from pup214's kernel (save for backports), libpata (sata-pata) is enabled and all the (at the time) available sata drivers are enabled.

I dunno, perhaps it'd be possible to dump the K2.6.21.5 (including the initrd modules) onto 214X .

FWIW & Cheers /
MHHP

Lol I tried that one before, It sort of worked, but wasn't stable enough, really there must be a better work around for it.
hmmm maybe he open a terminal in 2.14X and type lsmod
and then do it in 2.17 and see which module isn't loading
oh ya 3 most post and I'll hit 10,000. wow took a few years I think everyone who hits 10,000 post on here should get a free puppy cd in mail
ttuuxxx

Not really sure who this is aimed at but I see ttuuxxx says

maybe he open a terminal in 2.14X and type lsmod
and then do it in 2.17 and see which module isn't loading

Well if I am "he" then as I wrote above I can't try that as 214X just wont load at all.
I appreciate this is not the top laptop in the World but there are loads of them in the UK and who knows elsewhere. And it's just with 214X not 217, 412, 431, 520, other linux distros etc etc that I have this issue. Which is such a shame.

I am willing to help all I can to sort this problem out but I can't do what I can't do if it wont even recognise my sata drives.

I do appreciate that this is all a volunteers' project but if I am wasting my time please just say so as I note that ttuuxx has many irons in the fire and he posts less and less here. Perhaps 214X has seen its time?

But hopefully not.

#4175 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Tue 08 Mar 2011, 05:12

eternal-sunshine wrote:
I do appreciate that this is all a volunteers' project but if I am wasting my time please just say so as I note that ttuuxx has many irons in the fire and he posts less and less here. Perhaps 214X has seen its time?

But hopefully not.

No it hasn't reached near its end, not even close, I plan on keeping this puppy version for a few more years, maybe 3-5.

I just venture off a bit and help other puppy versions out and then come back again.

I'm still trying to figure it out.
ttuuxxx

James C · #4176 Post by **James C** » Tue 08 Mar 2011, 05:39

eternal-sunshine wrote:
I would say off the top of my head its a kernel issue, 2.14X uses an older kernel, hmmm have you tried any of the 2 series like 2.17, a few pages back there was a few post about updating the same kernel version number with a newer sfs from 4 series, likely the newer kernel 2.6.18.8 from woof series 2 could backport the sata modules. I have a few sata desktop drives and they are found by 2.14X. But I don't have any laptops that have sata drives. So it would be impossible to test. This weekend when I'm not working I'll give it a shot and see.
ttuuxxx

FWIW,I just booted 214x Top6 in my Windows 7/PCLOS/Lucid 520 desktop with SATA drives and everything is detected here as well.

tater · #4177 Post by **tater** » Tue 08 Mar 2011, 09:32

Hi ttuuxxx,

I tried running 214x on my old p4 1.7 box, but my nvidia gforce2 gts locks up on me very shortly after I get a desktop. I have the same problem with most all the puppies with this card. I got wary 5 going by having the 71.86.14 driver ready to install immediately upon the desktop loading up, otherwise everything locks up tight and am forced to do a hard reset. Same story with this nvidia card on all the puppies I've tried thus far. With the driver it's rock solid, stable.

I'll have to wait for the devX for 214x to become available and see if I can compile the driver. I do want to learn how to do that for sure. Or maybe you or someone could point me to the .pet already compiled for this kernel version?

I'd be much obliged for a point in the right direction.

I like what I've been able to see in 214x. It seems quite fast!

Peace

tempestuous · #4178 Post by **tempestuous** » Tue 08 Mar 2011, 12:20

MU provided an automated installer for the 3D nVidia vendor driver, compatible with Puppy versions 2.12-2.16 back in late 2006 -
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=13114
This includes an older version of the nVidia driver, but it should be fine for a GeForce2.

tater · #4179 Post by **tater** » Tue 08 Mar 2011, 20:38

tempestuous wrote:MU provided an automated installer for the 3D nVidia vendor driver, compatible with Puppy versions 2.12-2.16 back in late 2006 -
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=13114
This includes an older version of the nVidia driver, but it should be fine for a GeForce2.

Thanks tempestuous, I'll give that a try.

eternal-sunshine · Tue 08 Mar 2011, 21:17

ttuuxxx wrote

I'm still trying to figure it out.
ttuuxxx

Thanks for that. Appreciated.

James C wrote

FWIW,I just booted 214x Top6 in my Windows 7/PCLOS/Lucid 520 desktop with SATA drives and everything is detected here as well.

It also works okay in my other rig with sata drives. It's just this laptop where I am having problems.
As I said before all other linuxs including puppy 217, 412, 431, 520 recognise the sata drive except 214X. So my logic says it has to be something peculiar to how 214X is built.

#4181 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Thu 10 Mar 2011, 07:53

okay guys I'll be back on 2.14X for the next couple of weeks starting tonight

I'll be working on mostly the next release and a bit on the devx
I'm a bit tired so don't except too much tonight

ttuuxxx

#4182 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Thu 10 Mar 2011, 10:38

New tiny update page one,
For certain things like autostart internet, these should be incremental updates.
It works on my system but does it work on yours ?
ttuuxxx

#4183 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Thu 10 Mar 2011, 17:55

any results of the auto-load internet at startup yet?.
would like to know so I can move forward.
ttuuxxx

James C · #4184 Post by **James C** » Thu 10 Mar 2011, 18:49

ttuuxxx wrote:any results of the auto-load internet at startup yet?.
would like to know so I can move forward.
ttuuxxx

Live pfix=ram on my old P3 test box worked fine.......internet was connected and working on initial startup. Onboard Intel nic.

Some of us just woke up.......

James C · #4185 Post by **James C** » Thu 10 Mar 2011, 19:01

2 for 2 here.

Live pfix=ram in my main Linux box, auto-connected at boot.RealTek 8139 nic.

Think I'll have some breakfast now.......

MinHundHettePerro · Thu 10 Mar 2011, 19:32

ttuuxxx wrote:any results of the auto-load internet at startup yet?.
would like to know so I can move forward.
ttuuxxx

Evening here, link from Oz to the cold north is really slow today ~30kB/s. Hopefully burnt and tested in 2 hrs.

EDIT:
Automagically on-line, eth0;

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8139too	RealTek RTL-8139 Fast Ethernet driver

Cheers

/
MHHP

James C · #4187 Post by **James C** » Thu 10 Mar 2011, 21:44

ttuuxxx wrote:any results of the auto-load internet at startup yet?.
would like to know so I can move forward.
ttuuxxx

Well, I'm 3 for 3 here.ADMtek nic.Auto-connected at boot again running live pfix=ram on my Windows 7/PCLOS 2010/Lucid 5.20 box.

#4188 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Thu 10 Mar 2011, 23:44

wow that's great guys thanks, it really moves this retro into the present day puppy stream of things.
ttuuxxx

James C · #4189 Post by **James C** » Fri 11 Mar 2011, 01:49

tempestuous wrote:MU provided an automated installer for the 3D nVidia vendor driver, compatible with Puppy versions 2.12-2.16 back in late 2006 -
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=13114
This includes an older version of the nVidia driver, but it should be fine for a GeForce2.

I generally have been testing 214x on older equipment with CRT monitors with no problems but on my main Linux box with an old Nvidia card I could never get the desired screen resolution. Instead of 1440x900 on the LCD monitor I'd be stuck with 1024x768 .

Well, MU's package is working fine...... running at 1440x900 and nothing is distorted now.

Thanks for posting the link.

#4190 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Fri 11 Mar 2011, 03:29

hi James which file worked on that link there are 3 files under download and after that a link to another thread with a 13mb download. Mu also mentioned that a internet connection would be needed for additional drivers.
do you have the driver locally? that I could add to the iso, if its a reasonable size.
ttuuxxx

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