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Re: Classic Pup 2.14X -- Updated 2 series

#4096 Post by ttuuxxx »

Billtoo wrote:I made 3 pets in 214x top5, Ltris and two
others which Ltris needs to work.
Ltris is a tetris game.
Hi bill, I played with the graphics a bit in Ltris and shaved 300kb compressed of the pet :)
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ltris-1.0.15-i486.pet
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http://audio.online-convert.com/ <-- excellent site
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)

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Re: Classic Pup 2.14X -- Updated 2 series

#4097 Post by Billtoo »

ttuuxxx wrote:
Billtoo wrote:I made 3 pets in 214x top5, Ltris and two
others which Ltris needs to work.
Ltris is a tetris game.
Hi bill, I played with the graphics a bit in Ltris and shaved 300kb compressed of the pet :)
ttuuxxx
I just gave it a try, it hasn't affected game play I don't think but it sure looks different.
It's missing a few backgrounds.
It's still fun to play :)

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Re: Classic Pup 2.14X -- Updated 2 series

#4098 Post by ttuuxxx »

Billtoo wrote:
ttuuxxx wrote:
Billtoo wrote:I made 3 pets in 214x top5, Ltris and two
others which Ltris needs to work.
Ltris is a tetris game.
Hi bill, I played with the graphics a bit in Ltris and shaved 300kb compressed of the pet :)
ttuuxxx
I just gave it a try, it hasn't affected game play I don't think but it sure looks different.
It's missing a few backgrounds.
It's still fun to play :)
Its not missing any backgrounds, I did change the largest 95kb to a carbon 17kb carbon fiber one I made with gimp, probably could of reduced it to 4x4 pixels since it just repeats the image, to fill the background. I also recompressed most of the larger backgrounds. to save on file size. and I changed the default setup background to a green background with 2.14X on it :)

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http://audio.online-convert.com/ <-- excellent site
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
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Classic Pup 2.14X -- Updated 2 series

#4099 Post by Billtoo »

Hi ttuuxxx

I made a pet of xine-ui-0.99.6.tar.bz2 in
214X top5.
I had to compile ffmpeg-0.6.1.tar.bz2 and
xine-lib-1.1.19.tar.bz2 to get it to compile but
when I rebooted with pfix=ram to test the pet
without the devx loaded all I had to use was
the xine-ui-0.99.6-i486.pet and it worked.

I couldn't get it to create a menu entry so it
has to be started with the run command on
the menu with the 'run in terminal box ticked'
or just by entering xine in the terminal.

It plays dvd movies and audio cds, also mp3
and ogg files.

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#4100 Post by gerry »

@sheldonisaac- thanks, but I suspect it's that "User Agent" thingy. Possibly the ISP doesn't recognise Firefox 4.

gerry

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#4101 Post by ttuuxxx »

Hi Bill, I also compiled Xine-Ui and I didn't need to compile ffmpeg,libxine, nothing at all, just the Ui, anyways then I changed and compressed the theme, I changed the splash screen, I ditched the mimes, because they aren't needed, we already have mimes for the defaultmediaplayer etc. I ditched the sample video and replaced it with a system to puppy's video examples, I also changed the icons for better and smaller ones including some system links and made a .desktop for it.
It really does reduce the overall size :) and looks better :)
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http://audio.online-convert.com/ <-- excellent site
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http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)

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#4102 Post by Billtoo »

ttuuxxx wrote:Hi Bill, I also compiled Xine-Ui and I didn't need to compile ffmpeg,libxine, nothing at all, just the Ui, anyways then I changed and compressed the theme, I changed the splash screen, I ditched the mimes, because they aren't needed, we already have mimes for the defaultmediaplayer etc. I ditched the sample video and replaced it with a system to puppy's video examples, I also changed the icons for better and smaller ones including some system links and made a .desktop for it.
It really does reduce the overall size :) and looks better :)
ttuuxxx
I was compiling libxine when I got an error about ffmpeg so I just downloaded the latest and compiled that first, anyhow, xine is a great application for watching dvd movies.

You sure are good at reducing the size of applications, I just used the option to do exe,dev,doc,nls when I used the new2dir script, anything else is beyond my ability at this time.
I don't know why I couldn't create a menu entry?

edit: I dragged the xine file to the desktop and gave it an icon that I found on the web.

edit: I've been playing some more :)
I compiled mplayer-export-snapshot.tar.bz2
and made a pet of that (approx 9mb) and I
wanted to compile smplayer but had no luck
doing that so I used the
gnome-mplayer-20100521-q1.pet and I also
had to use glibc-2.10.1-w5.pet to get the
gnome-mplayer pet to work, also needed
SDL-1.2.14-i486.pet that I made for Ltris
installed.
In the end it all works :) and mplayer plays
a lot more file types, mp4,m4v,mpg, etc.
along with movie dvds.
The mplayer pet is too big to attach to a
message but I made the pet from the
nightly build of mplayer if you're interested
in doing one.

Edit: I backed up my save file for 214X top5 and burned the 214X top 6 cd and I'm posting from top6 now.
All the pets that I made in top 5 work and gnome-mplayer didn't need the
glibc-2.10.1-w5.pet to work because of the change that you made to top 6.
214X is great :) Easy on the eyes and solid (as in stable), nice work ttuuxxx.
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#4103 Post by ttuuxxx »

Hi Bill

I see why you needed to compile ffmpeg :) Xine-ui is a front-end to libxine, 2.14X has Gxine which is frontend to lib-xine, there is no need to compile libxine to compile Xine-ui because its already included in 2.14X :) but if you did compile the latest libxine, then it would call for the latest ffmpeg.
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http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)

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#4104 Post by sheldonisaac »

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sheldonisaac wrote: I just booted frugal 2.14X TOP-6, and am running Opera 10.63 (can I use 11.01?)
Oops: just noticed at
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=64380
it says in part
Opera 11.01-1190 sfs4 SFS package for Puppy Linux 5 series
Is there any way that it can run under 2.14X? Ever?

Many thanks,
Sheldon
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#4105 Post by ttuuxxx »

sheldonisaac wrote:
Opera 11.01-1190 sfs4 SFS package for Puppy Linux 5 series
Is there any way that it can run under 2.14X? Ever?

Many thanks,
Sheldon
I spent all day on this Opera version, lol I made it look like Firefox, I hate the default layout and look of opera, So I change some of the code, Icons etc. and look below what it looks like, I'm actually very impressed with it, It does not come with kde or Gstreamer deps, so I removed those related libs, It runs great, but I'm not too sure what isn't functioning without those extra deps/libs. Anyways it works like a charm.
ttuuxxx

Ps I'm actually thinking of putting it into 2.14X, since its smaller than firefox, But first I would realllllllly have to think about it :)

http://www.smokey01.com/ttuuxxx/2.14X/S ... 0-i386.pet
http://www.smokey01.com/ttuuxxx/2.14X/S ... locals.pet
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#4106 Post by ttuuxxx »

Oh ya if you look at the pic above and notice a Open Solaris tab opened well that's because I was given 3 Sun Micro Systems Blade 1500 pc's, that have a sparc x64 cpu's, they came with updated video cards extra usb cards and a total of 4 GB of ram and 3x80gb drives wow what a diverse set of pc's I've been getting first 2 mac's now 3 blades, glad I have a large computer room :)
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#4107 Post by ttuuxxx »

I just reuploaded the Opera browser because I noticed I missed a few link icons for the url taskbar for boorkmarks,find,printing,mail
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#4108 Post by ttuuxxx »

Hi sheldonisaac have you tried the opera pet I made? Also has anyone else tried it yet? I did spend most of the day on it, a little feedback would be nice, lol
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Trying Opera

#4109 Post by sheldonisaac »

ttuuxxx wrote:Hi sheldonisaac have you tried the opera pet I made? Also has anyone else tried it yet? I did spend most of the day on it, a little feedback would be nice, lol
Good morning, ttuuxxx.

Just waking up in cold, wet, icy Philadelpha, PA.

Your energy is amazing!

I will get the pet from your message, and try it.

Also, your fellow developer, SitHeelSpeak, is looking into it.
See around http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 904#492904
(Hope that's correct)

I'm sorry that I'm not smart enough or energetic enough to do some of this myself.

It really is not a significant problem; Opera 10.63 works OK under 214X on this computer; also I use the 10.54 version under Windows 98SE, because of some problem, supposedly fixable with a software called KernelEX (there were problems when I tried it, many months ago) or maybe by hex-editing the MS-Windows io.sys or whatever?

Not clear why loading an .sfs file at bootup is better than "installing" a .pet? Somehow I had the impression people thought it was better, which is why (I think) I did it that way on the newish netbook.

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#4110 Post by ttuuxxx »

Hi sheldonisaac I never use sfs for any single files,I always use pets, sfs are great for the main iso and well that's where it ends for myself, I even convert the devx to a pet and install it that way. There is no reason at all to use a sfs for a 9MB application, larger apps like OpenOffice ya sure.
sfs compress files better than pets, around 20% +, so its a savings, but when they are only 9MB, really it doesn't matter all that much.
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#4111 Post by Billtoo »

ttuuxxx wrote:Also has anyone else tried it yet? I did spend most of the day on it, a little feedback would be nice, lol
ttuuxxx
I installed the full version of Opera the other day and have been using that when I'm not using links.

I'm in your version now and it's working fine I think, it couldn't play videos at cnn until I downloaded the flash plugin from adobe and replaced the one in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins with the one that I downloaded which is 2 mb larger than the one that was in there.
They still don't play great on this pc but not too bad, youtube videos play fine.

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Opera 11.01 pet under 2.14X

#4112 Post by sheldonisaac »

ttuuxxx wrote:Hi sheldonisaac I never use sfs for any single files,I always use pets, sfs are great for the main iso and well that's where it ends for myself, I even convert the devx to a pet and install it that way. There is no reason at all to use a sfs for a 9MB application, larger apps like OpenOffice ya sure.
sfs compress files better than pets, around 20% +, so its a savings, but when they are only 9MB, really it doesn't matter all that much.
Many thanks, ttuuxxx; your Opera pet works!

I wrote more details, but erred and lost the message.

Will get back later today.

Thanks again!!!

Sheldon

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#4113 Post by ttuuxxx »

Thanks for the response guys, as flash goes, Mozilla and Opera are 2 different browsers and well yes probably you'll need two different flash locations or just flash itself versions, from what I've seen its ran pretty good
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can't get 214x-top6 to boot from frugal on amd64

#4114 Post by Sit Heel Speak »

Hello ttuuxxx,

I can't get 214x-top6 to boot, from a frugal install, on my Athlon64-x2. The live CD boots OK. Here is a screencap of how it fails. I have tried adding nosmp to the kernel line in menu.lst. Here is the boot line in menu.lst:

kernel /214x-top6/vmlinuz pmedia=atahd pdev1=sda3 psubdir=214x-top6 root=/dev/ram0 nosmp

Any suggestions?

***edited next day: I succeeded in booting the frugal install by moving all the Puppy files to the top directory of the boot partition and using

kernel /vmlinuz ro pmedia=atahd pdev1=hda3 root=/dev/ram0

***

I notice that this frugal install of 214x-top6 will not read a savefile created by the live CD. Just a minute, I'll tell you if it will read a savefile created by itself...yep, it will. Too bad it picks up on another savefile, which *is* inside a psubdir...see posts below.
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Re: can't get 214x-top6 to boot from frugal on amd64

#4115 Post by MinHundHettePerro »

EDIT: -
[color=green]Celeron 2.8 GHz, 1 GB, i82845, many ptns, modes 12, 13
Dual Xeon 3.2 GHz, 1 GB, nvidia quadro nvs 285[/color]
Slackos & 214X, ... and Q6xx
[color=darkred]Nämen, vaf....[/color] [color=green]ln -s /dev/null MHHP[/color]

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