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#4036 Post by Aitch »

MinHundHettePerro wrote:I also made a kernel-sources-patched.pet, but have nowhere to upload 40+ MB.
Try Mediafire

http://www.mediafire.com/

Aitch :)

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#4037 Post by ttuuxxx »

MinHundHettePerro I uploaded the early 2 series kernels that Barry prepared, located in http://www.smokey01.com/ttuuxxx/2.14X/2SeriesKernels/
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#4038 Post by sfeeley »

First, I want to say many many thanks. I've been using classic pup RC3-version for about a year on an old windows 98-era sony laptop. Love it. I think this is a great project. I've also installed it on a few relatives computers. I look at this thread occasionally and am always impressed at how helpful everyone seems.

Two questions/requests:

1) Is there a recommended version of Wine? I looked at wisdom seekers but don't see anything.
(I'd like to use it to try to install msoffice97. I managed this on another computer running Lucid 5.2.--I know its blasphemy in these parts but openoffice and abiword wreak havoc on the hundreds of footnotes in my manuscript)

2) Any nooby-friendly tips on installing pianobar?

Explanation: pianobar is a console version of Pandora--a popular music streaming site in the US. Pandora is a flash-heavy resource hog. But I've got pianobar going on a different machine with lucid 5.2, and it is great.

I tried installing the pet from here:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=62581

After intalling in Classicpup, when I run pianobar I get:
'Glib_2.7' not found (required by pianobar)

Is this a difficult fix? (keep in mind that I'm still a noob)

Thanks in advance.

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#4039 Post by wdm »

Hi sfeeley
1) Is there a recommended version of Wine? I looked at wisdom seekers but don't see anything.
(I'd like to use it to try to install msoffice97. I managed this on another computer running Lucid 5.2.--I know its blasphemy in these parts but openoffice and abiword wreak havoc on the hundreds of footnotes in my manuscript)
I was able to get wine 1.1.23 working on rc5 using information found here

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=26717

I used it to install an older version of Quicken. I've never tried msoffice in wine so don't know if this is what you are looking for or not.

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#4040 Post by MinHundHettePerro »

Hello :)!

Kernel 2.6.18.1 patched with squashfs-3.4:
patch, patched sources, DOTconfig, vmlinuz and squashfs-tools-3.4 can be found here, thanks to smokey01 :).

Cheers :)/
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#4041 Post by clarf »

Hi MHHP,

Thanks for sharing your experience.

One question: Why didn´t you go right to 2.6.18.8 kernel?. BarryK already patched this kernel with squashfs-3.3. Although the unionfs version he used has some bugs and your squashfs patch is newer, that kernel version is very stable.

Long time ago I used Barry´s source and found some workaround for the unionfs problems. I posted my founds here: http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=58858. Maybe you could share your knowledge there and continue my experiments in 2.14X.

Greetings,
clarf

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#4042 Post by James C »

I let Firefox auto-update to 4.0 b9, the result was that it quit working. See pic.
Took the easy way out, I installed FF 3.6.13. :) Working fine now.

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#4043 Post by ttuuxxx »

James C wrote:I let Firefox auto-update to 4.0 b9, the result was that it quit working. See pic.
Took the easy way out, I installed FF 3.6.13. :) Working fine now.
They must be changing the way that they compiled firefox, I'll put a compliant in, really updating glibc again would be so difficult, I was lucky last time, really you shouldn't be able to do that in the first place. I might just have to compile firefox every once in a while.
Thanks for the heads up.
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#4044 Post by obxjerry »

I let Firefox auto-update to 4.0 b9, the result was that it quit working.
Ditto I reinstalled 2.14x.
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#4045 Post by obxjerry »

Ditto my ditto. Firefox automatically updated on my new install of 2.14x. It was that same helplessness I used to feel back in my Windows daze, there was nothing I could do (not a pity party, it's my attempt at humor).

At first I was wanting to replace Firefox with SeaMonkey but now I have a need for a late version of Firefox. I have gone from being intrigued with 2.14x to liking it quite a bit. I am going to wait a day or two before I install 3.6.13 in case someone chimes in with another suggestion. Is there a way to disable updates in FF 4.0?
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#4046 Post by ttuuxxx »

Hi Guys

I've been complaining at the Mozilla developers forum, lol they haven't been liking it much either, Basically any Linux distro over 4+ years old Firefox support will be dropped, Because they are added WebGL to Firefox and somehow they think that a newer GlibC than 2.5 is needed for that. It doesn't make sense but they are going ahead with it, Either when FF4 final is released I'll compile it, Or I might take a stab at replacing GlibC once again, I figured We were lucky when I managed to change GlibC version from 2.3 to 2.5, That was a puppy first, Usually you shouldn't be able to do that, I might give it a shot once again.

But First I might have to take a couple days off, My wife and I had a daughter last night, She had to have a C-section so for the next bit, she's in the hospital and then I have to take care of her when she gets home.
The baby girl was really big & healthy 10 pounds 1 ounce. :)
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#4047 Post by ttuuxxx »

Another option is changing browsers back to Seamonkey and giving it a theme. I made such a fuss at the mozilla forum they locked the thread, lol serves them right!!. Sometimes I get a bit too passionate about linux I guess.
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#4048 Post by Sit Heel Speak »

My congratulations on the new addition to your family.

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#4049 Post by MinHundHettePerro »

ttuuxxx wrote:My wife and I had a daughter last night, She had to have a C-section so for the next bit, she's in the hospital and then I have to take care of her when she gets home.
The baby girl was really big & healthy 10 pounds 1 ounce. :)
My sincere Congratulations to you and yours :D :D :)
ttuuxxx wrote:I made such a fuss at the mozilla forum they locked the thread, lol serves them right!!.
Attaboy!! :D
ttuuxxx wrote:Sometimes I get a bit too passionate about linux I guess.
No kiddin'? :) :)

Cheers :)/
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#4050 Post by sfeeley »

Note to self: pull wireless card, boot computer and disable autoupdating on firefox asap.


Congrats on the newborn!

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#4051 Post by MinHundHettePerro »

clarf wrote:Hi MHHP,

Thanks for sharing your experience.

One question: Why didn´t you go right to 2.6.18.8 kernel?. BarryK already patched this kernel with squashfs-3.3. Although the unionfs version he used has some bugs and your squashfs patch is newer, that kernel version is very stable.

Long time ago I used Barry´s source and found some workaround for the unionfs problems. I posted my founds here: http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=58858. Maybe you could share your knowledge there and continue my experiments in 2.14X.

Greetings,
clarf
Hello, clarf :)!

To answer your question:
I've been thinking about how to upgrade the kernel to sfs ver. >=3.1 (proper, 214 has some 3.1rc[1|2]), and also whether it would be feasible to upgrade the kernel to 2.6.18.8. Kernel 2.6.18.1 that was used for 214[-|r|X], 216(1) and 217(1) were patched by BK and all the links to the original, complete, sources, patches and all, seemed dead (puptrix.org, e.g.); I had some patched sources of K2.6.18.1 stashed away, and ttuuxxx provided some more at his smokey01 repo.
Regardless, I wanted to (at least in the first go at it) keep all the original BK-patches to the kernel, so as not to risk loosing any support for older hardware that was working, thus I manually patched BK's K2.6.18.1 (already patched with sfs-3.1rc?) with sfs-3.4.

AFAIK, BK's K2.6.18.8 was compiled way later than the K2.6.18.1 used in the original 2-series puppies, in a woof attempt at pup218, and judging from the file name of the patched sources, there could be some patches omitted from this later version.

I have started looking into how to upgrade the kernel in 214X to K2.6.18.8, while ensuring all the original patches are preserved (comparing the patched sources of kernels used in 214/216 and BK's 2.6.18.8 with vanilla sources of 2.6.18.1 and 2.6.18.8) - might have a go at it in a week or two.

OTOH, if someone has a link to (or can provide) the complete kernel sources of K2.6.18.1 (of puppy 214 or 216), patches and all, I would be very much obliged :D :) :wink:.

Cheers :)/
MHHP
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Dual Xeon 3.2 GHz, 1 GB, nvidia quadro nvs 285[/color]
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#4052 Post by maxpro4u »

ttuuxxx wrote:Hi Guys

But First I might have to take a couple days off, My wife and I had a daughter last night, She had to have a C-section so for the next bit, she's in the hospital and then I have to take care of her when she gets home.
The baby girl was really big & healthy 10 pounds 1 ounce. :)
ttuuxxx
mazel tov :D

wow,that is one healthy baby!
Perhaps you need to take a few weeks off :lol:
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#4053 Post by obxjerry »

Congratulations, ttuuxxx. I wish you and your's all the best. Enjoy the good times.
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#4054 Post by Aitch »

But First I might have to take a couple days off, My wife and I had a daughter last night, She had to have a C-section so for the next bit, she's in the hospital and then I have to take care of her when she gets home.
The baby girl was really big & healthy 10 pounds 1 ounce. :)
ttuuxxx
Congratulations, ttuuxxx

Wish all your family, all the best for the future, and a swift recovery to an undoubtedly proud Mum :D

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#4055 Post by starhawk »

:D Congrats!! Sorry that I didn't see this before.

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