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What is the best Puppy Version ever, LOL
2.14x
28%
 28%  [ 11 ]
2.14x
10%
 10%  [ 4 ]
2.14x
28%
 28%  [ 11 ]
Other: 2.14x only
31%
 31%  [ 12 ]
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clarf


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PostPosted: Sat 20 Feb 2010, 01:15    Post subject:  

Hi ttuuxxx the new right click option for Rox is a great idea Smile .

You work inspired me... I added more custom actions to Thunar, I attach a picture for the new Right click options...

Decompress the uca.xml file in /root/config/Thunar/. I hope all Thunar fans like it...

UPDATE: Added two new options, create tar.gz file from Folder and extract .tar.gz files.

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PostPosted: Sat 20 Feb 2010, 03:00    Post subject:  

Nice Rox options clarf, I'll add them to the list Smile
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PostPosted: Sat 20 Feb 2010, 13:58    Post subject:  

Hi guys we have a forum member with booting issues with grub, As you know I run live and very seldom ever install, by far I'm no expert, so if anyone could help it would be nice Smile

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PostPosted: Sat 20 Feb 2010, 14:03    Post subject:  

This is where we are at
Q: what shall I write in the grub4dos
Q:"But what am I supposed to write in a menu.lst
even if you have not somebody else may have
and does the wmlinux and initrd need to be in root?
or can they me in a subdirectory. Do I have to do a pmedia something.

It tried to boot but got into kernel panic at Usage init. "
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PostPosted: Sat 20 Feb 2010, 14:07    Post subject:  

ok here's a few pages on it, I never had boot issues, so sometimes its better to look at others examples Smile

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=35003

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=16437

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=30820&sid=a956a3f7e36f034f72bf370b3b19a9bc

title Puppy
root (hd0,0)
kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/ram0 PMEDIA=idehd
initrd /initrd.gz

also this is one grub list I fund on hdd

Code:
# GRUB configuration file '/boot/grub/menu.lst'.
# generated by 'grubconfig'.  Fri Jan  9 01:12:44 2009
#
# The backup copy of the MBR for drive '/dev/sdb2' is
# here '/boot/grub/mbr.sdb.16507'.  You can restore it like this.
# dd if=/boot/grub/mbr.sdb.16507 of=/dev/sdb2 bs=512 count=1
#
# Start GRUB global section
#timeout 30
color light-gray/blue black/light-gray
# End GRUB global section
# Linux bootable partition config begins
  title Linux (on /dev/sda1)
  root (hd0,0)
  kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/sda1 ro vga=normal
# Linux bootable partition config ends
# Linux bootable partition config begins
  title Linux (on /dev/sdb1)
  root (hd1,0)
  kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/sdb1 ro vga=normal
# Linux bootable partition config ends
# Linux bootable partition config begins
  title Linux (on /dev/sdb2)
  root (hd1,1)
  kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/sdb2 ro vga=normal
# Linux bootable partition config ends
# Linux bootable partition config begins
  title Linux (on /dev/sdb3)
  root (hd1,2)
  kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/sdb3 ro vga=normal
# Linux bootable partition config ends
# Linux bootable partition config begins
title = Puppy 214R on sda2
root (hd1,1)
kernel /boot/puppy214R/vmlinuz root=/dev/sda2 ro vga=normal
# Linux bootable partition config ends
# Other bootable partition config begins
  title Windows (on /dev/sdc1)
  map (hd0) (hd2)
  map (hd2) (hd0)
  rootnoverify (hd2,0)
  makeactive
  chainloader +1
# Other bootable partition config ends
title Install GRUB to floppy disk (on /dev/fd0)
pause Insert a formatted floppy disk and press enter.
root (hd1,1)
setup (fd0)
pause Press enter to continue.
title Install GRUB to Linux partition (on /dev/sdb2)
root (hd1,1)
setup (hd1,1)
pause Press enter to continue.
title -     For help press 'c', then type: 'help'
root (hd0)
title -     For usage examples, type: 'cat /boot/grub/usage.txt'
root (hd0)

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PostPosted: Sat 20 Feb 2010, 14:55    Post subject:  

Hi again,

testing your 214X

the easiest menu.lst text worked right away. I guess I test the other text suggestion later also just in case.

Unsure about the save file thing. But now on to testing if I can do things with it.
Ok FF works obviously cause I am in 214X now. Looks great indeed.

I get back within some 10 to 20 minutes and report what did work or not.

Streaming video not working

totally failed to get sound working.

a good thing is that it actually mounts my usb flash memory but it starts the DVD too each time it look for usb. Smile

Looking at .flv video clips failed.
Looking at .mp4 video clips failed
Looking at .jpg pics works

Here is my menu.lst text

title Puppy214X
root (hd0,0)
kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/ram0 PMEDIA=satahd
initrd /initrd.gz

the one above works I am in that one now.

what is it about 214X that made you think me would like it better than Stardust and the other pup431?

Yes it is true that it takes very small memory. I give me 2.1GB free. That is amazing indeed but it does not do what I expect of it. And it has the old thing me never understood. Ho wto set run time actions. i struggled with that for months 2008 and nver grooked it. So me too stupide for 214X

Edit,

I try to do as you suggest. I have added the acpi=force and if that fail I go into xcine and do the advanced setting then. I'll be back.

Edit

Nope the acpi=force was no good advice and the other thing was too difficult for me.

I ended up with 4mb free memory instead of 2.1 gb free mem.

so something went very wrong. I try again following your advice with the advanced but no acpi thing.

If that doesn't work then I give up for now. when you have it as out of the box as NOP or Dpup or Stardust or pup431JPQS then I give you a new chance. Too steep learning curve for your 214X

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PostPosted: Sat 20 Feb 2010, 15:27    Post subject:  

hmm sound and video now, thats a big can of worms, lol usually it works fine for most, but there are ways
like one I found
changing gxine's default video driver setting from auto to xshm. If you want to try the same, open gxine and go to File>>Configure>>Preferences>>gui, and change experience level from Beginner to Advanced. After that, you can see gxine's video menu. Open it and change video driver to xshm.

also try running the alsa wizard

also try boot time parms acpi=force

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PostPosted: Sat 20 Feb 2010, 16:04    Post subject:  

As I described in the edited in text there was too much that was not working compared to the 431 series for me to have time to learn this older version.

Totally failed to get sound. It even fail to show the speaker symbol which most puppies do automatically. I tried the xsmh thing in advanced too and set up the speaker volume in the audio section on the xcine.

2.1GB free mem is back though. I let this one rest now until you have great success with it and everybody talks about it. I get too depressed when almost everything just fails.

I have three puppies now that almost can stand in for Windows. I only have to get wine going on them. All else is already working. To get wine going will take all my energy for weeks I guess so 214 will be put on a shelf here collecting dust. okay!

Nice try though.

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PostPosted: Sat 20 Feb 2010, 16:16    Post subject:  

well your quick to give up, Shame others could of probably helped in the next day or two, The things is when it doesn't work on one persons system and other puppies work, its nice to find out why and update accordingly.
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PostPosted: Sat 20 Feb 2010, 16:29    Post subject:  

Yes sorry, I can understand your needs in that regard.

Take contact with me when I have wine going.

My crazy HP seems to have RealTech audio and they are even hard to get going on windows. Smile

I give too fast. But I spent the better of 2008 to get linux going and I spent every day since December 2009 so I don't give up fast do I? Smile

I've tested some 45 distros too so I have been at it on my naive level.

I am not on your level that is for sure. I barely get what you write so be happy I stood or could stand that level up to now. I am totally exchausted so should go to bed now and dream linux dreams for some 10 hours.

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PostPosted: Sat 20 Feb 2010, 17:17    Post subject:  

nooby wrote:
Yes sorry, I can understand your needs in that regard.


well we'll be here if you want to give it another shot Smile
also newer alsa drivers are located
http://puppylinux.ca/tpp/ttuuxxx/2.14series/alsa/
username: puppy
password: linux
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PostPosted: Sat 20 Feb 2010, 17:31    Post subject:  

Ttuxxx, can a project like this ever be finished? I suspect not..........
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PostPosted: Sat 20 Feb 2010, 17:43    Post subject:  

DaveS wrote:
Ttuxxx, can a project like this ever be finished? I suspect not..........


well Dave I would say its good enough compared with any newer version of puppy, actually it does have lots of strong points over 4 series, but you get the very very few cases that it doesn't work right, could be because its an older kernel and hence the issues with sound, or it could be some sort of updated script that we overlooked, but for my newer pc's 2.14X is the best release of puppy to date, I've tried them all, when I boot freememory applet gives me 2.4GB of ram where as any 4 series gives me 1.6GB, that alone is the difference of compiling Seamonkey, QT live or doing a frugal install.

Plus it has a nice selection of games and Firefox works excellent, which really I enjoy, Plus It boots up and I don't have to select "generic drivers for xorg like I do with 3 series, Quirky also, it finds the right driver straight away. Next release will still be the final, hopefully Smile

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PostPosted: Sat 20 Feb 2010, 20:11    Post subject:  

Strangely, it wont boot at all on my hardware (Acer Extensa Laptop). Halts at innit. But then, none of the versions have...............
All 4.*.* series are fine though. Shame as I would love to try it. Ce la guerre......

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PostPosted: Sat 20 Feb 2010, 22:53    Post subject:  

DaveS wrote:
Strangely, it wont boot at all on my hardware (Acer Extensa Laptop). Halts at innit. But then, none of the versions have...............
All 4.*.* series are fine though. Shame as I would love to try it. Ce la guerre......

Hmmmm well I guess we'll hold off one the final until we workout why, 4 series runs just about everything and 2.14X failed twice now on boot, if your willing to test DaveS, I don't have that issue, so I can't solve it alone, but if we have a willing tester, it would help. Any ideas Clarfffffffffffff? lol would have to do with the bootup scripts.
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