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#286 Post by Puppyt »

Thanks very much for your response, ttuuxx.
Sorry - "ditching" was the wrong term- my mistake. Thanks too for the trouble for explaining the subtleties for removing a pet manually (without petbegone or the package manager - I had hoped to just "re"-install the pet over the pre-existing install, ignore the over-write warnings and then use the package manager to remove the pet holus-bolus, ala blotting-paper).
I've loaded technosaurus' 'wine-lite' (his wine-1.1.19-i486.pet, plus his winetricks+goodies tarball) and they seem to be working fine in your 214X3 - which is a very fine piece of kit, I must say again.
I'm having problems with a "KDE-lite" installation to run gposils Kommander and other apps, and from what I can understand have run into problems with the g++ libraries in the series 2 puppies - GLIBCXX_3.4.9 being the main bugbear. I wonder if you would consider updating KDE support in your series 2 projects or, failing that, point me in the right direction for solving the hassle? No urgency to reply,

Many Thanks

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#287 Post by ttuuxxx »

Puppyt wrote:Thanks very much for your response, ttuuxx.
Sorry - "ditching" was the wrong term- my mistake. Thanks too for the trouble for explaining the subtleties for removing a pet manually (without petbegone or the package manager - I had hoped to just "re"-install the pet over the pre-existing install, ignore the over-write warnings and then use the package manager to remove the pet holus-bolus, ala blotting-paper).
I've loaded technosaurus' 'wine-lite' (his wine-1.1.19-i486.pet, plus his winetricks+goodies tarball) and they seem to be working fine in your 214X3 - which is a very fine piece of kit, I must say again.
I'm having problems with a "KDE-lite" installation to run gposils Kommander and other apps, and from what I can understand have run into problems with the g++ libraries in the series 2 puppies - GLIBCXX_3.4.9 being the main bugbear. I wonder if you would consider updating KDE support in your series 2 projects or, failing that, point me in the right direction for solving the hassle? No urgency to reply,

Many Thanks
Since 2.14.1X doesn't use any KDE or QT apps by default, I'll look into your kde issue near the end of cycle. It shouldn't be all that hard to get kde working. Did you have any missing QT parts, you can get the puppy Qt4 parts from the series 4 repo and also some of the other parts are in the 4 series devx under /opt
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#288 Post by Puppyt »

Cheers, ttuuxx-

Success! Somehow - don't ask me - I was able to have gposil's Kommander pet compiled in puppy4.12 running on your puppy2.14 X3 base - by just installing this little gem from the puppy3 pet repository: gcc-g++-4.1.2.pet at http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/dis ... ackages-3/

uh - maybe the 4.1.2 is a giveaway, but it was the first pet I tried to spak-fill in the missing libraries/dependencies/whatever, using my obscene lack of understanding and faulty logic system BUT IT WORKED. Bound to be loose ends all through my rapidly-mutating but very functional 214X3, but until something really breaks, I'm very happy with this indeed! :D

Thanks for your tips on QT4 too by the way. I have precious little idea what it refers to (except that it's not the qt I'm used to - QuickTime :( ) but I think that this aspect was well-accommodated in both gposils' pet and dejan555's kdelibs4c2a (minimal KDE pet). I'm sure your reference will be important in future if I continue finding apps that rely on KDE,

Off to buy a lotto ticket...

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#289 Post by ttuuxxx »

Qt Is a programming language, puppy has different QT Versions, KDE use a lot of QT programs, So in the future you might need QT, To see some examples of Qt applications, look at this link.
http://www.qt-apps.org/
The reason why we keep it in the repo and in the Devx is due to its size.
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Minor bug with FF 3.5

#290 Post by drongo »

ttuuxxx,

I have a minor problem with this at work. We have a proxy server for internet access. When on a Windows machine I assume the username/password for the proxy is automatic as I never get prompted for it. (username/password for proxy is same as my Windows login.)

When using previous Puppies Seamonkey would not work initially. If I closed it down and restarted it I would get the username/password prompt. If I filled those in and ticked "Remember Password" (or whatever it is called) it would then work fine most of the time. Sometimes I would have to enter the username/password every time I restarted browser - I think this depended on the exact version of Puppy but it may just have been what sort of mood our proxy was in (it does not seem to behave consistently.)

Anyway, I don't get the username/password prompt any more so I can't access the internet from work with this version of Puppy. Is there something I need to change/enable in FF3.5 or is this likely to be a FF3.5 bug?

Not a major problem for me, I mainly use Puppy at home. I just thought I'd mention it.

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Re: Minor bug with FF 3.5

#291 Post by ttuuxxx »

drongo wrote:ttuuxxx,

I have a minor problem with this at work. We have a proxy server for internet access. When on a Windows machine I assume the username/password for the proxy is automatic as I never get prompted for it. (username/password for proxy is same as my Windows login.)

When using previous Puppies Seamonkey would not work initially. If I closed it down and restarted it I would get the username/password prompt. If I filled those in and ticked "Remember Password" (or whatever it is called) it would then work fine most of the time. Sometimes I would have to enter the username/password every time I restarted browser - I think this depended on the exact version of Puppy but it may just have been what sort of mood our proxy was in (it does not seem to behave consistently.)

Anyway, I don't get the username/password prompt any more so I can't access the internet from work with this version of Puppy. Is there something I need to change/enable in FF3.5 or is this likely to be a FF3.5 bug?

Not a major problem for me, I mainly use Puppy at home. I just thought I'd mention it.
Hi click edit/preferences then click the advanced tab, and under connection click the "settings" tab and type your info in.
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madwifi

#292 Post by raffy »

It's good that tempestuous is helping with this project, as he did a lot also for 2.14R. Yes, I've used the madwifi driver for the eeePC 701 and this kernel and it works well.
Puppy user since Oct 2004. Want FreeOffice? [url=http://puppylinux.info/topic/freeoffice-2012-sfs]Get the sfs (English only)[/url].

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#293 Post by tasmod »

tempestuous,

I mentioned in first post I made, that madwifi seemed to be there but nothing was available in the modules list. Directory contained madwifi items.

My pretty standard card was not automatically recognised and I found ath_pci but didn't know how to get it to load for selection.

Since then I've seen posts about 'depmod' and 'modprobe' needing to be run on it?

But why isn't it available after first boot?

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ttuuxxx,
great work, sound now remembered OK, can't test firefox until wireless connection working. More time spending on it today.

Especially like the package manager option to add your own comments when a pet is in loaded list.
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#294 Post by tasmod »

Ahh, OK a clue.

I was so busy looking for my wifi during network setup I didn't realise that nothing was showing at all.

My ethernet eth0 on board was not detected. Now I know this is always detected in any distro I've tried.

So is the detection routine working at all ?

Any clues anyone ?
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#295 Post by davesurrey »

Rob,
Not sure I can help but for starters if you do

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ifconfig -a
in a terminal does it show eth0 and if so has it been assigned an IP address?

If not do you see UP on the line about BROADCAST and MULTICAST.
If not can you try

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ifconfig eth0 down 
then

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ifconfig eth0 up
and see if that works.

Sorry if that is all well known to you. Not trying to talk down to you.
But often best to try the basics first.

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#296 Post by Puppyt »

ttuuxxx wrote:Qt Is a programming language, puppy has different QT Versions, KDE use a lot of QT programs, So in the future you might need QT, To see some examples of Qt applications, look at this link.
http://www.qt-apps.org/...
OOOooooh - lots of bright, shiny freeware applications...
ttuuxx, thanks for clearing that up for me - a lot of those QT apps would be right up my alley when locating gaps in the pet and deb repositories regarding the creation of a new research-tool puplet. (Yeah - somehow I crawled in the right direction earlier today, and now I think I can start flying already.)
Hope you forgive me spoiling the sleek 214X3 base with KDE and Wine bloat, but not all my preferred apps are pets and sfs yet... Nonetheless, if you don't mind - your 214X3 definitely looks like being the base for my little project - I really appreciate the tweaks you've sprinkled through it, feels very robust and stable and I'll certainly let you know how it goes.

Muchly, muchly appreciated.

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#297 Post by ttuuxxx »

If anyone wants The latest Seamonkey, This was the one Barry made up and I added my theme from 4.2 series and flash 10 links to firefox, So that flash would work, plus I had to change the desktop files, Probably should of used the one I compiled since they both had the same model number, lol, What happened was I wanted to see if his pet would of worked, well it did and didn't, just the .desktop files had to be changed, Glad I looked anyways, and since I had it already, it saved building all the directories etc.
ttuuxxx

Also the user gposil has given me an account on his server so this is actually the first of probably many uploads on his server, Thanks gposil, Its perfect timing also since my other account is out of bandwidth for the month this will be really handy :)

http://www.ttuuxxx.gposil.com/2.14X/int ... 1.1.16.pet

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#298 Post by tempestuous »

I just updated quite a few drivers for this Puppy version, now available here -
"Extra drivers for Puppy 2 with 2.6.18.1 kernel"
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=43653

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#299 Post by ttuuxxx »

tempestuous wrote:I just updated quite a few drivers for this Puppy version, now available here -
"Extra drivers for Puppy 2 with 2.6.18.1 kernel"
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=43653
Thanks tempestuous that a great help indeed, I'm sure a lot of users will be thankful, It will certainly help-out a lot.

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#300 Post by magerlab »

is there an iso for updated puppy 2 already?

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#301 Post by ttuuxxx »

The last release was http://www.puppylinux.asia/tpp/ttuuxxx/ ... /214X3.iso
But
"The bandwidth for the month of June 2009 has been exceeded."
So I'll be releasing a newer version maybe tomorrow or the next day 24-48 Hrs. and using the other server. Which is cool, Please don't pm Eric about it, He does enough already :) No need to stress him.
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#302 Post by clarf »

ttuuxxx wrote:
tasmod wrote: I have two problems, I can't get wireless network card recognised.
There is madwifi but I'm sure it's not being run. I have an Atheros card, pretty standard but not in card list.
Thanks tasmod, if you run the connection wizard from the desktop, I added a third option, lol You would have to be online for it to work, basically I was thinking that people might have a wired connection and would like to use wireless also, so you use the wired connection to download the wireless/network extras, I didn't add all the new wireless etc drivers because, well it would add like 10MB+ to the size and this re-release was intended for older pc, where most don't need them. anyways if you click the 3rd option it would take you to
http://puppyfiles.org/dotpupsde/dotpups ... 2-to-2.14/
those are updated drivers that should work on it :) hope one works out for you.
Great info ttuuxxx, thanks to these wifi-drivers link I finally could configure my wireless card.

Althought my Broadcom wireless card was correctly recognized and loaded by Puppy, It didn´t detected any AP (in fact the Scan button from NetworkWizard didn´t work) and I couldn´t configure any wireless network manually either, until I installed the "bcm43xx-firmware" pet...

Now I can scan wireless networks :lol: . I even can use Pwireless to scan and connect wireless netowrks, but it still freeze my laptop when using the Profiles page (as I reported before)...

Don´t know if other wireless card owners have similar problems but the firmware files seems to be needed... These firmware pets are small (Broadcom-firmware pet is just 28KB ) , could you include the missed firmware files in Puppy 2.14xx ttuuxxx?. Thanks again ttuuxxx.

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#303 Post by ttuuxxx »

clarf wrote:could you include the missed firmware files in Puppy 2.14xx ttuuxxx?. Thanks again ttuuxxx.
Yes I had that one planned for the next release:)
Just working on other parts first :)
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#304 Post by clarf »

ttuuxxx wrote:
clarf wrote:could you include the missed firmware files in Puppy 2.14xx ttuuxxx?. Thanks again ttuuxxx.
Yes I had that one planned for the next release:)
Just working on other parts first :)
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#305 Post by puppyluvr »

:D Ttuuxxx,
I love it, cant shut it off...literally...the shutdown and reboot in the menu lead to "the black death"...but this laptop can be cantankerous, so...
But "ctrl-alt-bkspce" gets me to the prompt just fine..Will test on the "dinosaur" desktop and get back...
Firefox has stayed locked on, no crashes, full screen video flawless..
Still cant switch themes, looking into it...Pwireless works fine, as does PupTV, including the mplayer side after I installed the Mplayer for PupTV pet.. All installed programs, and those pets Ive tried, work fine..
Very quick, very stable, very nice..
I had about given up on FF3, I always use your FF-2.0.0.12+Flash+JRE pet from a while back...Works better than any browser Ive tried, on more machines..But maybe there is hope for the 3 series yet.. :D
Still cant get frugal to work, but I am glad to know that "init is the parent of all processes"...Must be important... :D
Will try a frugal and full install on the "dino" and see how that goes..
:shock: , You´re always a step ahead...
Or are we just following one step behind... :?:

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