Classic Pup 2.14X -- Updated 2 series

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dejan555 · #2671 Post by **dejan555** » Fri 01 Jan 2010, 18:49

Ehm, ttuuxxx, where's pure-ftpd's document directory in 2.14X ?
I started it by typing pure-ftpd & in terminal and wanted to put files for sharing over internet, and there'susually directory in /root called ftpd or similar. When I enter ftp://localhost/ in browser it says:

421 unable to setup secure anonymous ftp?

clarf · #2672 Post by **clarf** » Fri 01 Jan 2010, 23:04

dejan555 wrote:Ehm, ttuuxxx, where's pure-ftpd's document directory in 2.14X ?
I started it by typing pure-ftpd & in terminal and wanted to put files for sharing over internet, and there'susually directory in /root called ftpd or similar. When I enter ftp://localhost/ in browser it says:

421 unable to setup secure anonymous ftp?

Hi dejan555,

You can start the FTP Server and allow anonymous login just writing pure-ftpd as you already did.

The problem setting up anonymous connections is that pure-ftpd can not create the user called "ftp" (the user configured for anonymous connections), you have to create it manually inside Puppy using something like:

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adduser ftp

Then create the home directory for that user in "/home/ftp".

That's all. Incoming anonymous connections will use the "ftp" directory. Remember you can set a different home directory for ftp, editing the file /etc/passwd.

To user another connections you can write something like ftp://root@localhost in browser and type root's password, then you'll be redirected to /root/ directory (actually root's home directory).

Greetings,
clarf

clarf · #2673 Post by **clarf** » Sat 02 Jan 2010, 17:18

ttuuxxx wrote:Here's a better one made with tcl and looks about the same but 1/4 the size If it works I'll toss it in
ttuuxxx
you'll find the link in menu/Network/Remote Desktop Client tcl

Hi ttuuxxx,

I installed both clients with mixed results.

The tsclient seems very solid, it has all features needed also include support for other Protocols like VNC (although I can´t enable this one).

The tcl pet package has some issues:

1. The menu link is pointing to a non existent "/usr/share/remotedesktopclient/" folder, the binary remotedesktopclient file is located at "/usr/remotedesktopclient/" after this pet is installed.

2. From command line It does not run because it tries to use a .png file looking in the wrong location /usr/share/remotedesktopclient (same problem that point 1).

3. Terminal works if you put the right server address. If you use an invalid remote IP, remotedesktop client exits without any warning.

Anyway 214X already has the remotedesktopclient frontend, the binary is in /usr/sbin modified by Dougal (Its the same tcl executable, Dougal added tcl theme configuration) and we already count with the png file in the ../X11/pixmaps directory.

Then the remotedesktopclient pet is unnecessary ttuuxxx, We already has it in 214X a menu entry for the tlc application is enough.

Note that rdesktop updated to 1.6 version worked very fine in my tests. This rdesktop update should be included in next release.

clarf

dejan555 · #2674 Post by **dejan555** » Sat 02 Jan 2010, 17:41

Thanks clarf, adding ftp user worked.
This is usually set up in other releases so I thought that directory is moved somewhere else. Logging /w ftp://root:password@url also works, just haven't remembered to try that. I needed it for anonymous login anyway.

#2675 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Sat 02 Jan 2010, 18:19

Hi clarf thanks for the test results

I just spend my time trying to build new things for 2.14X, really I don't have the time to test everything, and its nice to have such a great report back

Kind of does a full circle that way. Same with the Qt & apps still no responses back, that took about 2 days straight(around 36hrs) to build/upload. Oh well. Thanks anyways your sure are a great trooper for puppy

ttuuxxx

MinHundHettePerro · Sat 02 Jan 2010, 19:33

Hello

!

On rdesktop:
I have rdesktop-1.6 installed and run it from from a script-file (I only connect to my office XP-machine). The relevant line of the script is (the rest of the script just sets jwm-tray to height=small and to autohide, and restores the settings after the rdesktop-session)

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/usr/bin/rdesktop -u xxxxxxxx -b -k sv -a 24 -x l -g 800x600-4-24 -r disk:Arb_0=/mnt/hdb1/Arb_0/ ipi.pip.ipi.pip

and it works nicely, almost as good as when connecting from my home XP-installation to that same office XP-box.
The difference being that when connecting from my home XP-box I almost never lose the connection, while, when connecting from Puppy I frequently (a few times per hour) lose the connection and rdesktop stops responding and eventually exits.

So, my question, since rdesktop was brought up here, is: are there any switches to rdesktop that would enable any "keep-alive"-functionality that I have overlooked?

Cheers

/
MHHP

clarf · #2677 Post by **clarf** » Sun 03 Jan 2010, 05:21

dejan555 wrote:Thanks clarf, adding ftp user worked.
This is usually set up in other releases so I thought that directory is moved somewhere else. Logging /w ftp://root:password@url also works, just haven't remembered to try that. I needed it for anonymous login anyway.

I´m happy it worked for you dejan555. We should have a ftp user in 214X to avoid those problems

.

I usually don´t use Firefox for authenticated FTP connections, I prefer to use gftp (already present in 214X). It is really flexible and ease to use, even support more protocols like SSH (off course using some SSH client).

ttuuxxx

Talking about SSH client, I found a small ssh client/server that has a smaller size and footprint than OpenSSH, its called dropbear. There´s a pet package here:

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=38066

I installed this small pet (just 164 KB) and could set a SSH server in 214X just in seconds. The SSH client is good too, I could connect to some SSH servers without any problem. It also includes a keep alive parameter for a good Server administration.

It definitively should be included in 214X. And Barryk should consider its inclusion in Quirky.

clarf

clarf · #2678 Post by **clarf** » Sun 03 Jan 2010, 05:46

ttuuxxx wrote:Hi clarf thanks for the test results I just spend my time trying to build new things for 2.14X, really I don't have the time to test everything, and its nice to have such a great report back Kind of does a full circle that way. Same with the Qt & apps still no responses back, that took about 2 days straight(around 36hrs) to build/upload. Oh well. Thanks anyways your sure are a great trooper for puppy
ttuuxxx

Not problem ttuuxxx, your work is greatly appreciated. I´m downloading the Qt package and apps now, should give some feedback soon.

clarf

James C · #2679 Post by **James C** » Sun 03 Jan 2010, 06:34

Since no one has reported anything about your QT apps, I just downloaded QT lite, qsimplesheet,OpenDocEditor,flashqard and fatrat. Haven't had a chance to test much yet but all apps except qsimplesheet launch from the menu.

Qsimplesheet had no menu entry but would launch from the terminal. I moved that one little file from/usr/local/apps to usr/share/apps and now have a menu entry.

It's getting a bit late here but I'll try to give everything a good test tomorrow.

Great job as usual.

#2680 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Sun 03 Jan 2010, 09:44

James C wrote:
Qsimplesheet had no menu entry but would launch from the terminal. I moved that one little file from/usr/local/apps to usr/share/apps and now have a menu entry.

It's getting a bit late here but I'll try to give everything a good test tomorrow.

Great job as usual.

thanks its been updated

ttuuxxx

clarf · #2681 Post by **clarf** » Mon 04 Jan 2010, 01:47

Hi ttuuxxx,

I installed Qt-Lite package and tested some Qt applications. I used my Smplayer package (http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=341784), Q-Simplesheet, Open Document Editor, fatrat and TexMakerX. These are good looking and small applications.

I had problems in TexMakerX using some Tools, the "convert to HTML" and the PDF functions does not seems to work. Anyway someone with more expertise using a LaTex editor could test it and a proper way.

The Smplayer, QSimpleshhet and fatrat worked fine.

ttuuxxx, I found something really interesting in your QT-Lite package

, it includes a big file "libQtWebKit" (about 27 MB). This library seems to be used to view or edit HTML, XML code and few applications really need it.

TexMakerX Tools didn't work at all, so I did a small test deleting this fat file after installing the Qt-Lite package. All my Qt applications still worked without errors (no changes for TexMakerX problems). I could even save text documents as .html files in Open Document Editor

, that really surprised me, now I think this library is used for some browser (maybe Google-earth), but not really used for common applications.

ttuuxxx,

you could create a smaller Qt-Lite package removing this big "libQtWebKit" file or just add another Qt-Lite-no-QtWebKit pet. Qt applications are very explicit about a missing library, if some application need this FAT file, then the user could download the Qt-Lite package that includes it.

clarf

#2682 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Mon 04 Jan 2010, 02:21

clarf wrote:Hi ttuuxxx,

I installed Qt-Lite package and tested some Qt applications. I used my Smplayer package (http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=341784), Q-Simplesheet, Open Document Editor, fatrat and TexMakerX. These are good looking and small applications.

I had problems in TexMakerX using some Tools, the "convert to HTML" and the PDF functions does not seems to work. Anyway someone with more expertise using a LaTex editor could test it and a proper way.

The Smplayer, QSimpleshhet and fatrat worked fine.

ttuuxxx, I found something really interesting in your QT-Lite package , it includes a big file "libQtWebKit" (about 27 MB). This library seems to be used to view or edit HTML, XML code and few applications really need it.

TexMakerX Tools didn't work at all, so I did a small test deleting this fat file after installing the Qt-Lite package. All my Qt applications still worked without errors (no changes for TexMakerX problems). I could even save text documents as .html files in Open Document Editor , that really surprised me, now I think this library is used for some browser (maybe Google-earth), but not really used for common applications.

ttuuxxx, you could create a smaller Qt-Lite package removing this big "libQtWebKit" file or just add another Qt-Lite-no-QtWebKit pet. Qt applications are very explicit about a missing library, if some application need this FAT file, then the user could download the Qt-Lite package that includes it.

clarf

Hi clarf as the libQtWebKit goes, yes I was thinking of having it in a separate pet package, but actually one of the qt-apps uses, I forget which one, and also bibletime, midori uses it also.
The home-brew and folder encryption apps only use 2 qt libs. They could be packaged really small. I did make a post on Barry's blog about the size of Webkit and that it was stripped and still 26MB where as when I looked at Tinycore Linux QT repo webkit the qt package was a bit older maybe a couple of months, but his webkit was 13MB 1/2 the size. Barry never responded back, I did read he was building a new QT package for puppy but never seen it uploaded, and his current one is too old many apps don't compile with it and it doesn't have webkit at all, so that makes it useless for many newer apps. I really do hate compiling Qt due to 6hrs or it takes to compile and package.
Thanks for the feedback,

ttuuxxx

yorkiesnorkie · #2683 Post by **yorkiesnorkie** » Mon 04 Jan 2010, 13:01

Hi,

I know this is a bit off topic. I tried using Puppy's Package manager and the previous version of scribus in the Puppy Linux 3 repository does not work with Puppy Linux 4.3.1.

So, I tried your updated version of Scribus for the 2.14 series in Puppy Linux 4.3.1 and it does work. I found it on the first page of this post.

Testing Software
Scribus <--- Needs Python, thanks MU for py
http://www.puppylinux.asia/tpp/ttuuxxx/ ... 86-ENG.pet
http://www.puppylinux.asia/tpp/ttuuxxx/ ... on-2.5.pet

I played around with it, created a small four page document, and created a PDF from that which was perfectly acceptable, it seems fully functional and doesn't crash or anything. I thought you'd like to know.

I've got to try this new updated Puppy 2.14! Procrastination is a terrible thing...

Many thanks for the packages,

Yorkiesnorkie

#2684 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Mon 04 Jan 2010, 13:34

yorkiesnorkie wrote:Hi,

I know this is a bit off topic. I tried using Puppy's Package manager and the previous version of scribus in the Puppy Linux 3 repository does not work with Puppy Linux 4.3.1.

So, I tried your updated version of Scribus for the 2.14 series in Puppy Linux 4.3.1 and it does work. I found it on the first page of this post.

Testing Software
Scribus <--- Needs Python, thanks MU for py
http://www.puppylinux.asia/tpp/ttuuxxx/ ... 86-ENG.pet
http://www.puppylinux.asia/tpp/ttuuxxx/ ... on-2.5.pet
I played around with it, created a small four page document, and created a PDF from that which was perfectly acceptable, it seems fully functional and doesn't crash or anything. I thought you'd like to know.

I've got to try this new updated Puppy 2.14! Procrastination is a terrible thing...

Many thanks for the packages,

Yorkiesnorkie

Thats great to know, I never tried it on 4 series

excellent

ttuuxxx

clarf · #2685 Post by **clarf** » Tue 05 Jan 2010, 05:27

Hi guys, I was working with dropbear for remote Server Administration. I liked it so I started to make two GUI. One for the Server and other for the Client sides.

The Server GUI is done, I attach the three configuration windows made with Xdialog...

I´m working in the client GUI now. I plan to make it a little more complex, it should include profiles and multiple Box or tabs in the same Window. I think I should use gtkDialog, seems a complete week work cause the learning curve for gtkDialog (also started to read the GtkDialog tips thread).

I don´t know how much people actually could be interested on it. Maybe MHHP?. Any comment is welcome...

Greetings,
clarf

#2686 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Tue 05 Jan 2010, 06:03

clarf wrote:Hi guys, I was working with dropbear for remote Server Administration. I liked it so I started to make two GUI. One for the Server and other for the Client sides.

The Server GUI is done, I attach the three configuration windows made with Xdialog...

I´m working in the client GUI now. I plan to make it a little more complex, it should include profiles and multiple Box or tabs in the same Window. I think I should use gtkDialog, seems a complete week work cause the learning curve for gtkDialog (also started to read the GtkDialog tips thread).

I don´t know how much people actually could be interested on it. Maybe MHHP?. Any comment is welcome...

Greetings,
clarf

Very nice start clarf !!!

hmmm maybe make a small applet that swallows to the taskbar once the program starts with a couple of options

Dropbear menu
Stop
Restart
Launch GUI
Quit

ttuuxxx

clarf · #2687 Post by **clarf** » Tue 05 Jan 2010, 06:25

ttuuxxx wrote: Very nice start clarf !!! hmmm maybe make a small applet that swallows to the taskbar once the program starts with a couple of options

Dropbear menu
Stop
Restart
Launch GUI
Quit

ttuuxxx

Great idea ttuuxxx... Don´t know how to accomplish it, but I´ll search for it.

EDIT: I found a small app called gtrayicon used for Pwireless2. I can use it for the applet, but first I must do some little modifications for the start and kill process code. I found a good link about SSH/Telnet connections: http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Te ... mmand_Line

EDIT2: Its working now

. Some little things left like icons and right click menu. hmmm, I think this gtrayicon applet could be used for ftpServer and many other things... Well, I need some rest now, it´s like 3 a.m. now.

#2688 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Tue 05 Jan 2010, 14:35

clarf wrote:Well, I need some rest now, it´s like 3 a.m. now.

Well look at your eyes they look bloodshot and really red

gets some sleep, there's always tomorrow

ttuuxxx

Aitch · #2689 Post by **Aitch** » Wed 06 Jan 2010, 08:28

ttuuxxx

eric's server downloads of 214xRC2.iso are frozen - 6/1/2010

Concurrent download limit exceeded.

Aitch

#2690 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Wed 06 Jan 2010, 08:55

Aitch wrote:ttuuxxx

eric's server downloads of 214xRC2.iso are frozen - 6/1/2010

Concurrent download limit exceeded.
Aitch

when I get that I just hit the refresh like twice on the browser and it usually it lets it go

ttuuxxx

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