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[ttuuxxx]

Thanks tempestuous I'm still learning when with comes to drivers, So I'll have a look at your package
thanks once again
ttuuxxx

[ttuuxxx]

[davesurrey]

Thanks ttuuxxx,

FWIW
The current one works fine (=don't need any more features) and I personally don't need any help files. I can always go to the net if necessary on setup/install but then I doubt I'd need that baggage afterwords. Security issues are always welcome though.

Yes a cutdown pet would be nice.

Cheers
Dave

[Puppyt]

Cheers ttuuxx,

214X15 16Mb.

You can see that the stars are aligned for it? And/or I'm having a mug's shot at the "most foolhardy" title.
As I write your 214X15 is cheerfully ratcheting itself from a live CD onto a Satellite Pro 430CDS with 16Mb on-board EDO RAM and a 256MB swap on its original 1.3GB drive (pre-DMA).
I'm using the boot params of:

puppy pfix=noramsfs,nox acpi=off apm=on ide=nodma loglevel=7

...and I think I finally have worked around the dreaded Toshiba laptop-Xorg-XVesa perculiarities (more likely you had snuck in the CT65550 drivers already). Nonetheless I think that I might also have a go at remastering your 214X15 Greyhound-like and maybe petbegone a lot of applications etc, as I'm aware of - no, I have skimmed the forum - regarding the "success" of using puppy on sub-64Mb machines, and of the overheads demanded for X11 etc etc.
As the end-of-life role of the laptop will be as a stand-alone educational/entertainment centre I'll attempt removing the networking and related features etc to get the overall size down to a premium, putting/keeping in flash and java (shoots self in foot). Are there any applications that you recommend I simply should not touch? There is absolutely no rush in replying as I see you busy on at least 7 other projects and threads - I will post later to update my progress,

Many Thanks Again



P.S. I appreciated your efforts with FH301RetroLiteV2, and also with big bass' Fat-frees 3.01 and 2.17 - they didn't take me as far as yet as the 214X15 - here the taskbar is up with date and time - volume, blinky and freememapplet yet to appear, no background wallpaper or icons loaded yet - but it has only been cranking up over the last 3 hours- 120MHz Pentium and 10 X cd-rom ... Gloriously quick getting to the Xwin setup however, by comparison to some 15 other puplets and retros.
P.P.S. If I can just get a few applications up as proof-positive I WILL be getting the maximum RAM for the machine (48Mb! yay) and upgrading the HDD to a SD-IDE adapter...

[mawebb88]

@tempestuous and @ttuuxx

Many thanks for both your the latest efforts. I tried your latest ideas and this is what I found.

2008_0918_RT2860_Linux_STA_v1.8.0.0-i386.pet
This as I think I reported earlier at least gets the network scanning going although even adding rt2860sta to the wag-profiles.sh did not allow me to connect to my WPA router. Fortunately I have another router which I also run in parallel which us configured to WEP. Using a script I got connected:

[tubby]

Hi ttuuuxx, i have had problems with my wifi on this Toshiba Portege on all distros including yours apart from Dingo4, the work around i came up with was to install a couple of packages and add a symlink to the startup folder. How i managed it is at the following thread.
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=46594&start=285
I can now enjoy all of your efforts on this old laptop.

[ttuuxxx]

mawebb88 did you try the alsa package I compiled, it might fix your sound issue
http://www.puppylinux.asia/tpp/ttuuxxx/2.14series/alsa/
ttuuxxx

[ttuuxxx]

Here 5 puzzle games I compiled, there were around 20 of them, but the others weren't so great, just open the file and click on a game anywhere
ttuuxxx

[davesurrey]

ttuuxxx,
As you are around at the moment...two things.

1. It may have been when I installed hpliplite-3.9.8-mu-p4.pet for my HP printer (which works well) but I noticed I have the following directory structure:

/usr/share/ppd/gutenprint
/usr/share/ppd/HP
/usr/share/ppd/ppd (which says it is a symlink back to /usr/share/ppd)

So when I use Searchmonkey with "Follow symbol links" enabled, the bottom left of the screen flashes continually between /usr/share/ppd/HP.... and /usr/share/ppd/gutenprint, and I get multiple search results.
So it seems to be in an endless loop.

Never seen it do this with any other symlink.
Disabling "Follow symlink" and its okay again.

Is this sort of recursive symlink usual? If so I guess that's why the disable symlink option is there????


2. Do you intend to issue an RC or even final version of 214X this weekend? If you do would it be helpful to you if I made a list of the possible changes/updates?

Cheers
Dave

[mawebb88]

[tempestuous]

Well the rt2860sta driver I compiled is definitely WPA-compatible.
First I would delete a configuration file left over from ttuuxxx's dotpet -
/etc/Wireless/RT2860STA/RT2860STA.dat
this contains default wifi configuration settings which might be conflicting with your wpa_supplicant command.

[Puppyt]

Cheers again ttuuxx,

live-CD boot onto 16Mb RAM was definitely fool's errand - the taskbar is up and the Menu is populated but still a blackscreen background with no wallpaper and icons yet - 24hrs after first startup! At least I know that the Pentium CPU, onboard RAM and battery have seen a good workout - apparently this 430CDS laptop had been sitting untouched in a cupboard for nearly 5 years beforehand. Hasn't missed a beat despite the glacierpace install. Seems now worth the risk to throw some hardware upgrades into it...

Meantimes I've attempted a "remaster" of 214X15 on a bigger computer - and quickly saw the act as frankly sacrilegious: what a fabulous range of apps you've put into this (outlined over pages 141-142 of this thread). I don't think that I could ever use half of them, but that's entirely by-the by. You've certainly poured a huge amount of consideration and effort into it. I even installed the 4.12-compiled Launchy pet as a test replacement to taskbars and desktop icons - runs brilliantly on the 214X15, a neat illustration that your series 2 update bridges a huge range of applications and hardware. Well Done!
The real purpose of the remaster was to develop a kind of downmarket HSB (HamSamBen, an EduPup update) for kids with donated or less-than-standard computers running at least 64Mb. (Perhaps sidder's 3 HSB sfs files will work straightaway on a 214X, given 512Mb.) To keep overheads down I imagined using the games you have already, plus a suite of flash games similar to those on WebPup /Barbie Expanded, java-based games like the recent remakes of the 80's classics, "Lords of Midnight" and "Doomdark's Revenge" (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lords_of_midnight) and removing the heavier (and perhaps less fun) apps like AbiWord, inkscape-lite, gnumeric and all the calculators, and all the networking and multimedia stuff, cd and dvd rippers and mixers etc (with the exceptions of Beep and Gxine, Zmixer and Sweep - that looks like loads of fun with a microphone!).

Caught your earlier post on another thread regarding Pet-be-gone and it's limitation to the removal of only standard/official pets (sorry can't ref it at present - it was in February 2009). Tried your workaround of tracking down and downloading the unofficial pet, renaming it from *.pet to *tar.gz, and then extracting it to hunt down and remove the traces in Rox. Phew! I think I will give your FH-retroLite another attempt on this old laptop first before I try a proper remaster.

The fully-fledged 214X certainly Rocks. My thanks to you and all your volunteer contributors.
(signed)
An Errant Fool

[davesurrey]

ttuuxxx,

Well I thought it might be helpful if I made a quick reference list to what I understand would be possible changes/inclusions/bug fixes to the next version of 214X. It's based on what's in 214X15.

1. add desktop-menu for TightVNC. http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=42553&start=2188

2. add symlink

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