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What is the best Puppy Version ever, LOL
2.14x
20%
 20%  [ 6 ]
2.14x
13%
 13%  [ 4 ]
2.14x
30%
 30%  [ 9 ]
Other: 2.14x only
36%
 36%  [ 11 ]
Total Votes : 30

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davesurrey

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PostPosted: Thu 08 Oct 2009, 07:29    Post subject:  

Yes but the menu item still launched rxvt even after a reboot.

I just changed the Exec line in /usr/share/apps/rxvt.desktop from rxvt to mrxvt and all is well now.

Sorry I should have been clearer.
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Minnesota

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PostPosted: Thu 08 Oct 2009, 08:58    Post subject: Video Card  

ttuuxxx :
Does your Motherboard have on board video? If so pull the failing video card... and see if you can run fine...not quite the same quality, but good interim solution.
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clarf


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PostPosted: Thu 08 Oct 2009, 10:27    Post subject:  

I recently compiled mrxvt-0.5.4. I enabled the menubar waiting to have the copy and paste functions in it but it doesn´t, then started to use it for some time, but the lack of this and other features make it a bore update. The only good think IMO was the tabs support. The transparent background was a fake because it´s not real transparent feature, it just copy the image background and make it a bit darker, you can´t see the desktop icons for example....

Now I use your ROX-term found through sullysat list, It has second button menu options for copy and paste, tabs support and look much better (I only miss a transparent background).

The second button menu is the most useful feature for my, I know I can copy/paste using the mouse middle button, but in a laptop with two big button it´s very hard to simulate the middle button (when I click those big buttons at same time, I do not always get the desired result. Evil or Very Mad )

Salutes,
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davesurrey

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PostPosted: Thu 08 Oct 2009, 10:46    Post subject:  

clarf:
How did you get tabs to work in RoxTERM?

I go to Preferences>Config Manager>Profile>Properties>Windows/Tabs and set tabs to 3 but it only gives me a single screen. No tabs.

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davesurrey

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PostPosted: Thu 08 Oct 2009, 11:54    Post subject:  

Well I did get networked printing running for 2 printers under samba but when I rebooted it all fell apart. Sad

I'm off over to the printer section of the forum but I'm sure they'll want to know what versions ttuuxx you installed for samba and cups. Any help you can give will be welcome.

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clarf


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PostPosted: Thu 08 Oct 2009, 13:07    Post subject:  

davesurrey wrote:
clarf:
How did you get tabs to work in RoxTERM?

I go to Preferences>Config Manager>Profile>Properties>Windows/Tabs and set tabs to 3 but it only gives me a single screen. No tabs.

Dave


Dave, the initial number of tabs does not work for me either. This parameter is not saved and it always starts with one screen (Then I aggregate more in File - New Tab.) Rolling Eyes

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davesurrey

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PostPosted: Thu 08 Oct 2009, 13:44    Post subject:  

clarf:

Whilst you are there....can you help on another prob I have.

I can only get printing working if I start the cups daemon after each boot.

I have a one line script Smile to do this and have dropped that in /root/Startup so it will do that automatically at each boot, but is there a more elegant way of doing it?

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ttuuxxx


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PostPosted: Thu 08 Oct 2009, 14:23    Post subject:  

MinHundHettePerro wrote:
ttuuxxx wrote:
..., wonder if I could disable that black screensaver. that would be handy.
Code:
xset s off -dpms

hth/
MHHP


didn't work any other ideas??? Can't just remove the video card since there isn't and built in video.
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clarf


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PostPosted: Thu 08 Oct 2009, 16:38    Post subject:  

davesurrey wrote:
clarf:

Whilst you are there....can you help on another prob I have.

I can only get printing working if I start the cups daemon after each boot.

I have a one line script Smile to do this and have dropped that in /root/Startup so it will do that automatically at each boot, but is there a more elegant way of doing it?

Cheers
Dave

Hi Dave, I don´t understand your question.

I don´t see any problem using .xinitrc to start stuff before xwin is executed.

But I usually start demons and process in other Linux distros (mainly servers) using /etc/rc.d and assigning a run level 0-99 to that demon (the level is a order to run things, for example indicates which program start before or after others programs).

In Puppy you can use /etc/rc.d/rc.local to start demons, well I believe it was created for that reason. When you copy your code script to that file, its executed when rc.sysinit (the initialization script that is executed after init) calls rc.local file.

Hope this information were you asked for and it can help you in some way.

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davesurrey

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PostPosted: Thu 08 Oct 2009, 17:33    Post subject:  

Hello clarf.
Your very comprehensive answer is most helpul. Thank you.

Do you use printing in 214X? In which case does CUPS auto-start for you. It certainly doesn't for me.

Can you let me know.
Thanks
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ttuuxxx


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PostPosted: Fri 09 Oct 2009, 07:28    Post subject:  

Hi dave, actually you stumbled acrosss something that I figured should work, 2.14X or even 2.14 didn't have cups by default, also It didn't have /etc/init.d folder either. So when cups makes the /etc/init.d folder there is no set commands to start it.
So First thing would probably be find out what line in what file starts that folder in newer puppy versions, Maybe the bootmanger, xinitrc, delayed startup, etc once found try adding it to 2.14X, and if not on Sunday I'll have a look, I'm too tired tonight and have to work in the morning.
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davesurrey

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PostPosted: Fri 09 Oct 2009, 12:01    Post subject:  

ttuuxxx,
Well I had a look in Puppy 430 and found the following, which I guess you will know already.

At boot up it runs /init and then /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit

In the Setup Services section of rc.sysinit it calls /etc/rc.d/rc.services which runs any scripts in /etc/rc.d/init.d

(There is also /etc/rc.d/rc.shutdown which is run on shutdown and I believe also calls whatever is in /etc/rc.d/init.d)

Actually /etc/rc.d/init.d is a symlink to /etc/init.d
in this folder sits a Cups file which is a startup/shutdown script.

Okay now in pup 214X there wasn't a /etc/rc.d/init.d folder so
I made one, symlinked it to /etc/init.d and added the Cups startup/shutdown file from 430 to /etc/init.d.

I then added the rc.services file from 430 and added to near the bottom of rc.sysinit
Code:
/etc/rc.d/rc.services &


Well it works but I guess it's inelegant (at best). I added the & to the end of the cmd to get rid of several seconds of boot delay and at least on my system it didn't cause any problems.

Simply dropping the Cups startup/shutdown file into /root/Startup didn't work.

I also tried to bypass the rc.services script by
Code:
/etc/init.d
but it didn't work.

So up to you of course how to proceed.
Cheers
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OlddogNewtricks

Joined: 07 Jun 2009
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PostPosted: Fri 09 Oct 2009, 13:57    Post subject:  

Hi ttuuxxx, a full install with usb keyboard, flash drive etc. all pluged in now works by adding these 2 lines to /etc/rc.d/rc.modules at line 135

modprobe usbkbd
modprobe usb-storage

The extra modprobe lines added to /root/.xinitrc as a work around can now be deleted.


Hi Dave, concerning cups. In my pup2.17, /etc/rc.d/init.d is just a symlink to /etc/init.d so maybe all thats needed is the missing symlink. Just a thought.
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davesurrey

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PostPosted: Fri 09 Oct 2009, 14:09    Post subject:  

Hi OdNt
Quote:
In my pup2.17, /etc/rc.d/init.d is just a symlink to /etc/init.d so maybe all thats needed is the missing symlink

Yes I've already done that as I mentioned above.
Thanks anyway
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OlddogNewtricks

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PostPosted: Fri 09 Oct 2009, 14:17    Post subject:  

davesurrey wrote:
Hi OdNt
Quote:
In my pup2.17, /etc/rc.d/init.d is just a symlink to /etc/init.d so maybe all thats needed is the missing symlink

Yes I've already done that as I mentioned above.
Thanks anyway
Dave


Ah, but did you try it before making all those changes.
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