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2.14x
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2.14x
4
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2.14x
11
29%
Other: 2.14x only
12
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mikeb
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#151 Post by mikeb »

All puppy 2 versions needed glibc updated to at least 2.4 to stop flashplayer from crashing the browser. We now have glibc-2.5 (puppy 3 package) & glibc-2.6.1-1 (puppy 4 package).
This is misleading.
Puppy 4.xx has/had browser crashing issues with flashplayer and already has the newer glibc. This only affects the installer(not needed). The actual fixes centre around gtk2.
An updated glibc would have benefits for other applications but thats a separate matter.

Hey ttuuxxx...is it still planned to have an updated alsa with this kernel as that would make me and several thousand others jump for joy and reduce asprin intake?

mike

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#152 Post by mikeb »

Oh and just to get up to speed what version of gtk2 are you using ?
By the way XR11R6 more or less drops in and runs...just needs 2 libs copying over...for that truly retro fast feeling :D (and smaller too!)

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#153 Post by OlddogNewtricks »

mikeb
I refered only to the puppy 2 versions needing the glibc update already installed in pups 3 & 4.

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#154 Post by mikeb »

I refered only to the puppy 2 versions needing the glibc update already installed in pups 3 & 4.
Well tried just this a while ago and did not fix the issue. The solution was gtk2 related. Actually puppy 2.02 behaved and that uses gtk 2.60 rather than 2.80.
Flashplayer 9/10 uses gtk2 , flashplayer 7 uses gtk1....this changeover is when instability came in. I'm guessing they compiled against a later gtk2 than some of the puppies. There is this utf-8 issue with glibc which would be nice to resolve.
At least now we can have a browser/flash combo that behaves. :) as many sites now demand (not need!) it.
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#155 Post by ttuuxxx »

mikeb wrote:Oh and just to get up to speed what version of gtk2 are you using ?
By the way XR11R6 more or less drops in and runs...just needs 2 libs copying over...for that truly retro fast feeling :D (and smaller too!)

mike
I'm using Gtk2 gtk+2.0_2.16.1
Also also wouldn't use the series 4 glibc due to all the glib issues we had in the past with browsers etc, series 3 is the better way to go. Ok I'm going to try it brb with results, lol
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#156 Post by OlddogNewtricks »

mikeb
Sorry about that. I should have been more specific. I'm refering to pup's 2.13 to 2.17. I've never used earlier pups as, if I remember right they don't have xorg installed.
Have edited previous post

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Re: 214x1 on EeePC901

#157 Post by mawebb88 »

tempestuous wrote:
mawebb88 wrote:In 412 the interfaces are eth0 (module=ATL1e) and rt0 (module=rt2860). Any chance of these in 214x?
If you can wait for Barry's Puppy218-alpha I will probably compile the various Eee drivers compatible with its new (old) 2.6.18.8 kernel.
Yes definitively I can wait :) . Many thanks.

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#158 Post by ttuuxxx »

hey mike .lol
well it 80% worked, I had to system link the new glibc 2.5 because I was running live, some of gtk and pango are dead, So I'll try to compile it, Firefox from 1.5-3.05 plus seamonkey was dead and dillo tooo ,lol But I had a version on static opera with realllllllly bad fonts and used that to get online :)
now for the fun part, fixing this ,lol
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#159 Post by mikeb »

well it 80% worked,
ok lost me ...X11R6 or glibc?

Forgot to mention if you drop in X11R6 then needs X11R6 link to it for compatability..ie the other way around to as it was.

glibc..you use cp to change it?

mike

@OlddogNewtricks no probs...just wanted to keep info on this important issue clear and my mouth took over :D

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#160 Post by ttuuxxx »

mikeb wrote:
well it 80% worked,
ok lost me ...X11R6 or glibc?

Forgot to mention if you drop in X11R6 then needs X11R6 link to it for compatability..ie the other way around to as it was.

glibc..you use cp to change it?

mike

@OlddogNewtricks no probs...just wanted to keep info on this important issue clear and my mouth took over :D
glibC lol, what a pain, have to rebuild most of the backend again, lol
I'll let you know how it goes :)
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#161 Post by clarf »

I´m making some pets for Puppy 2 series, these are not intended to be official pets, the idea is to make a wider software selection for 2 series and attract more people to them.

For now I´m working in Puppy 2.16 to make some pets:
- Icewm 1.3.3 works fine in 2.16 (adding some custom themes, I´ll test later in 2.14).
- Smplayer (can´t compile in 2.16, seems a glibc library problem.. I´ll try 4.1.2 and then 2.16...)
- MUGEN - 2D player system for Windows made by Elecbyte, works fine in 2.14 (adding some custom chars, backgrounds and music).

Should I create a new a new Forum post for these ones ttuuxxx?

UPDATE:
Finally Smplayer is working in 4.1.2. I had to untar a precompiled .deb package, then check files, dependencies and install qt4. After that added smplayer executable inside for a Portable version, removed unnecessary files, made pet, etc.

BUT It dont´work in Puppy 2.16 wrong GLIBC... dead end.
Last edited by clarf on Wed 10 Jun 2009, 00:13, edited 2 times in total.

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#162 Post by ttuuxxx »

clarf wrote:I´m making some pets for Puppy 2 series, these are not intended to be official pets, the idea is to make a wider software selection for 2 series and attract more people to them.

For now I´m working in Puppy 2.16 to make some pets:
- Icewm 1.3.3 works fine in 2.16 (adding some custom themes, I´ll test later in 2.14).
- Smplayer (can´t compile in 2.16, seems a glibc library problem.. I´ll try 4.1.2 and then 2.16...)
- MUGEN - 2D player system for Windows made by Elecbyte, works fine in 2.14 (adding some custom chars, backgrounds and music).

Should I create a new a new Forum post for these ones ttuuxxx?
well you won't be able to mix all the packages together, I would wait a bit and see how this new glibc works out, if it does work out right, then yes a new software section would be nice, but this 2 series I'm working is nothing llike the older 2 series, its more like a 3 series-6series, lol because some of the backend packages are newer than the 5 series.
Just recompiled glib :) lol man I hope all this work pans out for 2.5 to work properly.
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#163 Post by mikeb »

You really need to try this........
already used it for firefox suffering with flash 9..

fromhttp://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic ... 60#1783468
You can change it back to the built-in filepicker by modifying the following in nsFilePicker.js which is located in the app's components directory. After making the change you have to re-register the components which is easily accomplished by disabling then re-enabling an extension and then restarting. Installing or un-installing an extension will also force a component registration.

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    compMgr.registerFactoryLocation(FILEPICKER_CID,
                                    "FilePicker JS Component",
//@line 278 *snip*
                                    "",
//@line 280 *snip*
                                    fileSpec,
                                    location,
                                    type);
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  compMgr.registerFactoryLocation(FILEPICKER_CID,
                                    "FilePicker JS Component",
//@line 278 *snip*
                                    FILEPICKER_CONTRACTID,
//@line 280 *snip*
                                    fileSpec,
                                    location,
                                    type);
provides stability with flash 9/file saving in seamonkey..
tested in seamonkey 1.04, puppy 2.12 (standard) flash 9.124.

There must be a problem with that version of mozilla/gecko.
By the way plenty of utf-8 errors but no crashes..which gave a segmentation fault anyway with the unmodded setup.
Saves days of updating glibs and gtk that I previously tried

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#164 Post by OlddogNewtricks »

some good news
Along with the latest flash & glibc-2.5 I Installed firefox 3.0.10 with a symlink from libflashplayer.so in the seamonkey plugins folder to the plugins folder in firefox. As with seamonkey, flash gave no problems.

some bad/good news
Installed firepup-0.04.3.pet (firefox 3 not installed). All went well until I went to edit preferences. Clicking on certain tabs in 'privacy' or the content tab froze firepup. I killed it with KP then carried on anyway to check flash with a symlink as above. youtube full screen was fine but disney.com didn't like the 'flash block' extension, when disabled all was well again.

If any of this is usefull then great.

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#165 Post by ttuuxxx »

hi guys ok here's the goodnews, I managed to get GlibC-2.5 working on 2.14.1X and make a iso of it, it boots and seamonkey didn't crash where it used to :)
I'll upload it and let ya's test it a bit. :)
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#166 Post by ttuuxxx »

Ok guys here it is , with Glibc-2.5 please test it and I'll start testing the Devx
http://www.puppylinux.asia/tpp/ttuuxxx/ ... /214X2.iso
you should be able to use most of series 3 apps now.
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#167 Post by ttuuxxx »

Guys, Guys, Guys this is amazing, I just installed the latest Firefox 3.5b4 it needed only Dbus and dbusglib, so I downloaded the slackware 12 version, and boom, splat, bag, zap, lol its perfect, it even past my theme/scroll bar test that every version of 4 series failed, very badly. Firefox 3 is up and running like a dream, I went to youtube and fullscreen worked, I went to sourceforge and it didn't crash with flash included :) How freakin good is that. ??
Its better than Upup with firefox, its about the same as Dpup which ran perfect with firefox.
I also still have Seamonkey working :) I used /lib to install firefox and not /usr/lib that way they both can live in the same os.
Now here's the tough question, do you want firefox as the main browser or Seamonkey ?
or do you want a firefox pet package? that installs in /lib ? so it doesn't kill Seamonkey.
ttuuxxx
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http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)

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#168 Post by tubby »

I would like to see you use Firefox, i have downloaded and use it in all of my puppy versions.
I wonder whether Firebird would also be an option?.

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#169 Post by ttuuxxx »

Wow again, lol I just checked updates for firefox and it updated to a even newer one that wasn't on the website, it must of been just a small file, because it was updated in like 2 seconds, heres what the screen said
"Thank you for helping test this preview of Firefox 3.5! As a member of our beta user audience, you have received this update to help us test this preview before it becomes the Firefox 3.5 release candidate. You will be updated to the release candidate automatically when it is released."
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#170 Post by techtype »

ttuuxxx wrote: Now here's the tough question, do you want firefox as the main browser or Seamonkey ?
or do you want a firefox pet package? that installs in /lib ? so it doesn't kill Seamonkey.
ttuuxxx
Firefox, of course!

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