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tasmod

Joined: 04 Dec 2008 Posts: 1459 Location: North Lincolnshire. UK
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Posted: Wed 05 Aug 2009, 15:27 Post subject:
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Dave,
many thanks, I messed around a bit and this time tried GB rather than UK and it all worked.
I had been trying to alter my Psync Time Synchroniser to work correctly with 214 but 214 doesn't handle 'locales' the same.
It works but the main report is incorrect.
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ecomoney

Joined: 25 Nov 2005 Posts: 2183 Location: Lincolnshire, England
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Posted: Wed 05 Aug 2009, 16:23 Post subject:
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| Ttuxxx wrote: | | As for ecomoneys bookmarks, well I might add a few of the sites, but a really once again they are tailored to ecomoney, lol man thats funny, the first site on the list is his. |
| ecomoney wrote: | | if added to the toolbar they make nice drop down bookmarks by catagory (you will need to remove the "local" one as they only relate to sites in this area). |
Yes, my own site is under the "local" catagory also, I allowed myself the indulgence of this blatant self promotion as I supply the computers these bookmarks usually reside on Ive found that including the pre-defined bookmarks, as well as being convenient, make people explore more things around the www, instead of just sticking to ebay/facebook/youtube like so many do. Edit them as you feel fit, but I would recommend keeping www.media-convert.com as it allows registration-free file conversions that offer a way past the few remaining file compatibility issues people still sometimes encounter when switching to Linux.
Regarding impartiality of news, international, reader-edited/submitted sites such as digg, reddit and the original slashdot (where I discovered Puppy Linux) should definitely be on the list. MSNBC is owned by General Electric, who do very well out of both the manufacture of Weapons of War and "financial services"....which makes me very skeptical of their coverage of these issues. Other American news networks have similar "influences". Im unsurprised the BBC uses ads (from ING bank?) for revenue generation outside the UK. Here we have no such ads as the BBC is funded from a compulsory government TV licience fee (a law that has been threatened with revocation when their coverage becomes to anti government, i.e. during the start of the Iraq Invasion). Whatever news links should be included, I think they should be TOTALLY unbiased, or not included at all. No offence intended DaveSurrey (I will test your suggested settings, and yes I am using V7). For the OpenOffice 2.2 I literally copied the files out of the ecopup eco_save.2fs and ran them. I can make an .sfs or .pet if you wish to test.
I have a big presentation tommorow with the Merchant Seaman Welfare Association (which will hopefully enable me to avoid another government work programme should they take me on), but I will take a look at the initrd script to enable netbooting (for which I have a test rig here) and the psubdir parameter.
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Colonel Panic

Joined: 16 Sep 2006 Posts: 1225
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Posted: Wed 05 Aug 2009, 16:52 Post subject:
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| ecomoney wrote: | | Ttuxxx wrote: | | As for ecomoneys bookmarks, well I might add a few of the sites, but a really once again they are tailored to ecomoney, lol man thats funny, the first site on the list is his. |
| ecomoney wrote: | | if added to the toolbar they make nice drop down bookmarks by catagory (you will need to remove the "local" one as they only relate to sites in this area). |
Yes, my own site is under the "local" catagory also, I allowed myself the indulgence of this blatant self promotion as I supply the computers these bookmarks usually reside on Ive found that including the pre-defined bookmarks, as well as being convenient, make people explore more things around the www, instead of just sticking to ebay/facebook/youtube like so many do. Edit them as you feel fit, but I would recommend keeping www.media-convert.com as it allows registration-free file conversions that offer a way past the few remaining file compatibility issues people still sometimes encounter when switching to Linux.
Regarding impartiality of news, international, reader-edited/submitted sites such as digg, reddit and the original slashdot (where I discovered Puppy Linux) should definitely be on the list. MSNBC is owned by General Electric, who do very well out of both the manufacture of Weapons of War and "financial services"....which makes me very skeptical of their coverage of these issues. Other American news networks have similar "influences". Im unsurprised the BBC uses ads (from ING bank?) for revenue generation outside the UK. Here we have no such ads as the BBC is funded from a compulsory government TV licience fee (a law that has been threatened with revocation when their coverage becomes to anti government, i.e. during the start of the Iraq Invasion). Whatever news links should be included, I think they should be TOTALLY unbiased, or not included at all. No offence intended DaveSurrey (I will test your suggested settings, and yes I am using V7). For the OpenOffice 2.2 I literally copied the files out of the ecopup eco_save.2fs and ran them. I can make an .sfs or .pet if you wish to test.
I have a big presentation tomorrow with the Merchant Seaman Welfare Association (which will hopefully enable me to avoid another government work programme should they take me on), but I will take a look at the initrd script to enable netbooting (for which I have a test rig here) and the psubdir parameter. |
Good luck with this tomorrow!
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davesurrey
Joined: 05 Aug 2008 Posts: 1201 Location: UK
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Posted: Wed 05 Aug 2009, 17:10 Post subject:
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ecomoney wrote;
| Quote: | | Whatever news links should be included, I think they should be TOTALLY unbiased, or not included at all. No offence intended DaveSurrey |
No offense taken either...but I think it's an almost impossible task to find any news agency that doesn't have any bias at all. After all the news is written and edited by human beings and as such we all have some bias in us.
| Quote: | | For the OpenOffice 2.2 I literally copied the files out of the ecopup eco_save.2fs and ran them. I can make an .sfs or .pet if you wish to test. |
That's kind of you but no need as I have access to several OOo sfs files. It was more that I can't see a way to install sfs files in 214x like I can using BootManager in puppy 4 series. It doesn't seem to exist. I would eventually like to run 214X with several sfs files.
And good look tomorrow as well.
Dave
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davesurrey
Joined: 05 Aug 2008 Posts: 1201 Location: UK
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Posted: Wed 05 Aug 2009, 17:14 Post subject:
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Hi Rob,
| Quote: | | many thanks, I messed around a bit and this time tried GB rather than UK and it all worked. |
I can't remember which distro it was but I got a really weird keyboard output recently when I selected UK ...only to find out that it was the Ukranian version.
Glad it's working now.
Cheers
Dave
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ttuuxxx

Joined: 05 May 2007 Posts: 10720 Location: Ontario Canada,Sydney Australia
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Posted: Wed 05 Aug 2009, 17:28 Post subject:
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Yes ecomoney I do view online newsfeeds from BBC, have been doing it ever since they started newsfeeds, plus many other western countries, but when you view the BBC news clips/feeds they have a Australian content, It used to be ING Direct but for the past few months its been global destiny, http://www.globaldestiny.com.au/TvAdvert.aspx#
That's the actual commercial they play here in oz, The video doesn't work in 2.14X due to its a windows format. but you can still listen to it with gxine, Below is a tar.gz with the actual ad-brite script they use to localize the commercial for Australia Viewers.
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sinc

Joined: 22 Jul 2009 Posts: 523 Location: Tampa, FL USA
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Posted: Wed 05 Aug 2009, 22:29 Post subject:
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maybe this is just for me but ttuuxxx since you mentioned the next release might not be too far off i wanted to make a list of the issues/ideas that have been brought up since page 64 when you announced v7. I'm obsessive and like to keep track of things
1. minnesota says the connection wizard is old and needs updating 2. mhhp would like an easy way to change mouse cursors 3. davids45 and davesurrey have brought up a few times an sfs boot-loader 4. tempestuous - spaces in directory names issue pg 67. 5. transplant the "MODULES PREFLIST" pg 67. 6. olddog mentioned updating adobe flash 7. davesurrey's list 8. parcellite 9. xlock icon? 10. clarf - searchmonkey gtk errors 11. pupsave expansion fix 12. ecomoneys ideas 13. tasmod mentioned the psync time sychroniser, that would be nice:)
and 2 other questions of my own.
a. how do i turn off the 2 barks after every reboot?
b. any thoughts on making rutlit startup as the default wireless manager without having to start the program?
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OlddogNewtricks
Joined: 07 Jun 2009 Posts: 124 Location: U.K.
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Posted: Thu 06 Aug 2009, 01:04 Post subject:
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| sinc wrote: |
a. how do i turn off the 2 barks after every reboot?
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Hi sinc, go to /usr/sbin & open as text delayedrun then comment out lines 38-45 to give you this:-
#rc.modules should have detected sound, loaded module, written to /etc/modprobe.conf.
#rc.local0 executes rc.alsa to start sound. now bark...
# if grep -F -q 'alias snd-card-0' /etc/modprobe.conf ;then
#sleep 1
#aplay /usr/share/audio/2barks.au &
#wavplay /usr/share/audio/2barks.wav &
#PIDAPLAY=$!
#sleep 3
#kill $PIDAPLAY 2> /dev/null
#fi
#...one laptop has bug, aplay barks forever, so kill it.
save the file & reboot to test.
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ttuuxxx

Joined: 05 May 2007 Posts: 10720 Location: Ontario Canada,Sydney Australia
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Posted: Thu 06 Aug 2009, 01:21 Post subject:
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Ok to change a cursor go to http://www.kde-look.org/?xcontentmode=36 and download any cursor you want to try out, then extract it to /root/.icons right click on the extracted folder and select "link" and make a link to the folder called default and then restart X-server. I've tried to patch the kernel but all the kernels so far that Barry prepared are already patched and they don't like to be updated, well 2 out of 3 so far, I did want the latest patched version of this kernel, the last releases of it was in 2.16. I don't think I'm at the level where I could take a pristine kernel and do all the patching needed, but there's one more prepared one I'll try
Hey sinc great followup list that's really helpful. I'll work on the list a bit also and keep ya informed
ttuuxxx
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davesurrey
Joined: 05 Aug 2008 Posts: 1201 Location: UK
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Posted: Thu 06 Aug 2009, 08:29 Post subject:
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ttuuxxx
I just tried out 01micko's Versioninfo-1.6.pet and whilst it worked fine in Puppy 412 it doesn't in 214X.
Specifically it will run by manual intervention ie from a terminal or by clicking the script but not automatically on boot or restarting the xserver.
At the suggestion of 01micko I made a new script to run rox at startup and that also didn't work in 214X7 automatically only manually. So it looks like a problem associated with /root/Startup of 214x7
If you want the thread is in the forum's Additional software section.
Thanks
Dave
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tasmod

Joined: 04 Dec 2008 Posts: 1459 Location: North Lincolnshire. UK
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Posted: Thu 06 Aug 2009, 09:36 Post subject:
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OK, after a bit of detective work I've altered Psync to suit 214R.
The pet contains a slightly modified rclocal0 where for some reason it saved the TZ as PUP. (Any special reason tuuxxx?)
The first reported offset is always 0.0000 but on setting via Psync214R it will report actual offset.
Hope you don't mind tuuxx I'll post the pet here as it's 214R specific, please test.
Updated due to omission
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sinc

Joined: 22 Jul 2009 Posts: 523 Location: Tampa, FL USA
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Posted: Thu 06 Aug 2009, 10:06 Post subject:
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tasmod,
thanks for making that pet. it installed corectly with no issues. i am in eastern time US and i don't know if it has anything to do with daylight savings or any of my settings but it set my clock back 1 hour. its 10 and the time adjusted to 9. it pops up with a dialog box that says the "offset was" ... ? nothing? i really want to use this puppy as my main OS is there anyway to set the settings and then automate the service at bootup?
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davesurrey
Joined: 05 Aug 2008 Posts: 1201 Location: UK
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Posted: Thu 06 Aug 2009, 10:16 Post subject:
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tasmod.
Well with my set-up I get an offset reported but it sets my UK time to GMT not BST ie an hour behind when I select a UK Time Region Server.
Dave
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sinc

Joined: 22 Jul 2009 Posts: 523 Location: Tampa, FL USA
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Posted: Thu 06 Aug 2009, 10:19 Post subject:
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i changed my timezone to a few different timezones and it sets it to GMT -5 no matter what I change my timezone to.
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davesurrey
Joined: 05 Aug 2008 Posts: 1201 Location: UK
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Posted: Thu 06 Aug 2009, 10:31 Post subject:
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Looking in the Help file it seems to say changing GMT offsets may not do anything.
And if I read it correctly it seems to say to set the TimeZone by City/Place but in 214X7 I have only GMT offsets and no separate list of Cities. Whereas in puppy 420 there is such a list.
Dave
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Moved the directory /usr/share/zoneinfo from a Puppy 420 installation and replaced the 214X version with it, rebooted but still don't have a list of countries.
ttuuxxx....where are you
Dave
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