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What is the best Puppy Version ever, LOL
2.14x
20%
 20%  [ 6 ]
2.14x
13%
 13%  [ 4 ]
2.14x
30%
 30%  [ 9 ]
Other: 2.14x only
36%
 36%  [ 11 ]
Total Votes : 30

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tasmod


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PostPosted: Mon 03 Aug 2009, 17:22    Post subject:  
As a clue, if I run Alsa wizard it will play woof sound. I load a tune in gxine and it commences playing with a high pitched whistle BUT touch any control and sound is lost.
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PostPosted: Mon 03 Aug 2009, 17:40    Post subject:  
Tried BMP again after a reboot.

Instead of starting by using list, I pressed the + key and then selected add files. Selected add all and presto a correct list. Wonder if it's a bug with the list control or I'm not using it right?

Tried adding alsa start to rc.local but still no joy. Sad
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PostPosted: Mon 03 Aug 2009, 17:43    Post subject:  
Not sure about 214x; but a high pitch whistle or squeal is
usually caused by internal mic feedback. Check to see if mic
is turned up in alsamixer or whatever other mixer 214x is
using.
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Minnesota

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PostPosted: Mon 03 Aug 2009, 18:04    Post subject: Don't neglect the wife :)
Subject description: Bubble work		  
ttuuxxx wrote:
Minnesota Still painting,lol more off than on, but my wife is after me, well I did about 60hrs of work during that week on the rooms Smile Man she won't be happy until I finish. Shocked lol
ttuuxxx

Don't neglect the wife.. nor fixing the house... You will enjoy using "new". Bubbles work on 417. Smile Dare I tell you back splash is part of a job I started with new cabinets, then floor, now finally back splash in the kitchen.. bet started for or five years ago.. oh well....FINALLY
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davesurrey

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PostPosted: Mon 03 Aug 2009, 18:27    Post subject: SFS files  
I've just read clarf's post about SFS files and ttuuxxx's answer and I have to say I've only just noticed that I don't know how to load an sfs in this distro. In Puppy 4-series I would go to Menu>System>Boot Manager and set it up there after moving the sfs file to /mnt/home. But how to do it here as I can't find a similar menu?

And also not sure I understand ttuuxxx's reply. ttuuxxx are you saying any SFS file that works in Puppy 4 series will work in 214X but not those of upup/dpup etc?

I use SFSs a lot so this is critical for me.

Thanks
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PostPosted: Mon 03 Aug 2009, 19:09    Post subject:  
ttuuxxx.

Thanks for the info on Bmp, I had discovered it the the hard way... Laughing

BTW dpup uses the 2.6.27.x kernel and sfs3, just thought i'd let you know that...the no backward compatability for sfs4 is a pain so I kept it at 3, and 3 support is already in the kernel.

Cheers
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davesurrey

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PostPosted: Mon 03 Aug 2009, 20:34    Post subject:  
Something strange happening with my pup_save file.

I had expanded it to 1GB (or was it 1.5GB) and then added some sfs files to test and noticed that Blinky was indicating I had only around 199MB free space so I tried to add a further 512MB.

On rebooting I had a whole load of red text which basically said it had failed to increase the size of the save file. Okay, so I did an fsck to clean up the partition (using another distro with the partition unmounted) and tried again to increase the file size.

Still get error messages on boot saying the increase has failed and Blinky and PartView still say I have 199MB free and 298MB used but Menu>Utility>Resize Personal Storage reports the save file as around 2500 MB size.

Anyone able to explain what is happening.

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clarf


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PostPosted: Mon 03 Aug 2009, 20:38    Post subject:  
sinc wrote:
clarf, i am sorry if i am way off on this but are you referring to searchmonkey instead of seamonkey. i just bring that up b/c you mention searching inside of files. nevermind if i misread your post.


Excuse me, my fault. Embarassed

You are right sinc I was talking about SearchMonkey. Each time I open it an error warning is written into /temp/Xerrs.log (try yourself). It also crash when you make a deep search, in example searching content inside files from /root...
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davesurrey

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PostPosted: Mon 03 Aug 2009, 21:01    Post subject:  
clarf:
Yes I confirm that I also get error messages in /tmp/xerrs.log for each SearchMonkey search but I can't get it to crash for example searching in /root/my-documents/clipart.
Dave

Quote:
searchmonkey 2578 Gdk critical : gdk_window_invalidate_rect: assertion 'GDK_IS_WINDOW (window)' failed

or
Quote:
searchmonkey 2624 Gtk-WARNING Unable to find default local directory monitor type.
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clarf


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PostPosted: Mon 03 Aug 2009, 21:13    Post subject:  
davesurrey wrote:
clarf:
Yes I confirm that I also get error messages in /tmp/xerrs.log for each SearchMonkey search but I can't get it to crash for example searching in /root/my-documents/clipart.
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searchmonkey 2578 Gdk critical : gdk_window_invalidate_rect: assertion 'GDK_IS_WINDOW (window)' failed

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searchmonkey 2624 Gtk-WARNING Unable to find default local directory monitor type.


Hi dave, thanks for quick response, I get the same GTK-WARNING errors. After many test I believe the crash thing is random, but more frecuent in long and complex searchs...

I also have problems resizing my SAVE File, I think the script that searchs the file and then create the additional space fails in somepoint, seems to fail to get the actual file name. Could be related to the extensive use of "R" (214R) in some system files??? Need to do more test and read the initializtion files.
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tasmod


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PostPosted: Mon 03 Aug 2009, 21:32    Post subject:  
hi tuuxxx,

Sound is now working. Very Happy

I did some searching of the forum and found I needed a combination of two items.

Firstly, in Alsa the HDA-Intel drivers are odd in that they require an extra parameter in modprobe.conf to match hardware version.
The line was:
Code:
options snd-hda-intel model=6stack


6stack refers to my hardware version. See post http://www.murgha-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=22383

Secondly, change of the Alsa library files to match Alsa and kernel.

To explain, please see post http://www.murgha-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=16495

Thanks to tempestuous for his posts.
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sinc


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PostPosted: Tue 04 Aug 2009, 20:15    Post subject:  
hey ttuuxxx, you've been quiet today. been painting?. I almost starting missing you Shocked

a couple things
1. i just noticed this today, very minor, but nevertheless... all the icons on the desktop are lowercase ***except*** Audio and Video. I don't know if you want them that way but its a minor detail that i just noticed.

2. how can i permanently turn off the barks when the computer starts, other than never turning volume up? at night when i reboot i wake up my wife and that tends to not allow me to play around as much as i want Laughing can you make that an easy button to turn that on or off for people?
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PostPosted: Tue 04 Aug 2009, 20:20    Post subject:  
Greetings everybody,

I checked /initrd/sbin/init the initialization file when Puppy boots (actually Puppy first reads the simlink /initrd/linuxrc that points to init), searching a solution for the pup_save resize problem reported before. But in the way I found another feature that I miss in 2.14x, the search of pup_save in subdirectories,then i started to see the actual code.

The search command used in the init script is found in line 521:

Code:

´cd /mnt/$2; ls ${ADIR}/pup_save*.[23]fs 2>/dev/null; ls ${ADIR}/*/pup_save*.[23]fs 2>/dev/null;´


I believe if we add the following code

Code:
 ls ${ADIR}/*/*/pup_save*.[23]fs 2>/dev/null;


to this line, the search function will find any pup_save file in any "second" level directory without using a complete recursive search (that could take too much time to accomplish).

But I can`t test this code because any change made to init or any file in /initrd/ tree is not saved between sessions. Doing a remaster either save those files because the pup_214R.sfs don`t keep this directory (I actually can see the structure tree from this file using the unsquashfs app, thanks ttuuxxx for show me that tool. Smile ).

I`m thinking now to do a manual remaster just creating the full Puppy structure tree and using dir2iso or makeiso, following thecnosaurus manual, but I`m new to this and I`m not sure if this could work.

Any idea, ttuuxxx do you know how I could make those test?.

Thanks in advance for any information
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PostPosted: Tue 04 Aug 2009, 20:44    Post subject:  
clarf wrote:
Greetings everybody,

I checked /initrd/sbin/init the initialization file when Puppy boots (actually Puppy first reads the simlink /initrd/linuxrc that points to init), searching a solution for the pup_save resize problem reported before. But in the way I found another feature that I miss in 2.14x, the search of pup_save in subdirectories,then i started to see the actual code.

The search command used in the init script is found in line 521:

Code:

´cd /mnt/$2; ls ${ADIR}/pup_save*.[23]fs 2>/dev/null; ls ${ADIR}/*/pup_save*.[23]fs 2>/dev/null;´


I believe if we add the following code

Code:
 ls ${ADIR}/*/*/pup_save*.[23]fs 2>/dev/null;


to this line, the search function will find any pup_save file in any "second" level directory without using a complete recursive search (that could take too much time to accomplish).

But I can`t test this code because any change made to init or any file in /initrd/ tree is not saved between sessions. Doing a remaster either save those files because the pup_214R.sfs don`t keep this directory (I actually can see the structure tree from this file using the unsquashfs app, thanks ttuuxxx for show me that tool. Smile ).

I`m thinking now to do a manual remaster just creating the full Puppy structure tree and using dir2iso or makeiso, following thecnosaurus manual, but I`m new to this and I`m not sure if this could work.

Any idea, ttuuxxx do you know how I could make those test?.

Thanks in advance for any information


Nice find Smile I can add it, when I get back to 2.14X in about 1hr time, I've been playing the latest 4.22 for about 24hrs now, and painting a little, well enough to keep the wife happy:) 4.22 is stable enough, but its not 2.14X Smile funny how you get used to some things Smile Most things I like about it, just a couple small issues, was actually thinking of editing the sfs and removing, seamonkey, image viewer, e3. and adding, dbus,firefox,gpicview, 214X themes, wallpaper, Jwm with 24x24 icons. and then figured, screw it, i'll Just load-up 2.14X, lol

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OlddogNewtricks

Joined: 07 Jun 2009
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PostPosted: Wed 05 Aug 2009, 03:10    Post subject:  
clarf wrote:
Greetings everybody,

I checked /initrd/sbin/init the initialization file when Puppy boots (actually Puppy first reads the simlink /initrd/linuxrc that points to init), searching a solution for the pup_save resize problem reported before. But in the way I found another feature that I miss in 2.14x, the search of pup_save in subdirectories,then i started to see the actual code.

The search command used in the init script is found in line 521:

Code:

´cd /mnt/$2; ls ${ADIR}/pup_save*.[23]fs 2>/dev/null; ls ${ADIR}/*/pup_save*.[23]fs 2>/dev/null;´


I believe if we add the following code

Code:
 ls ${ADIR}/*/*/pup_save*.[23]fs 2>/dev/null;


to this line, the search function will find any pup_save file in any "second" level directory without using a complete recursive search (that could take too much time to accomplish).

But I can`t test this code because any change made to init or any file in /initrd/ tree is not saved between sessions. Doing a remaster either save those files because the pup_214R.sfs don`t keep this directory (I actually can see the structure tree from this file using the unsquashfs app, thanks ttuuxxx for show me that tool. Smile ).

I`m thinking now to do a manual remaster just creating the full Puppy structure tree and using dir2iso or makeiso, following thecnosaurus manual, but I`m new to this and I`m not sure if this could work.

Any idea, ttuuxxx do you know how I could make those test?.

Thanks in advance for any information


Hi clarf, you need to edit initrd.gz not remaster the pup-sfs file. But don't ask me how.
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