Classic Pup 2.14X -- Updated 2 series

[Minnesota]

zd1211rw-k2.6.18.1.pet Sure took a long time to moprobe... bet almost two minutes, finally a return to the terminal...SEEMS to be working.. .no freeze so far. Computer up half an hour. Will check again shortly.

TTUUXXX:
1) Secondary problem still exists- Only Recognizes ONE of the two usb dongles. Technically not a problem... but something is not right. All other Puppies have recognized two dongles. MY TWO LAN's show.

2) Have you tried opening /proc folder? Directory folders show.. but none of the files below.. as the computer hangs... try on any machine. Cancel at bottom of screen or x upper right will not exit.. must use kill and restart x to return to desktop.

Forty minutes wireless working, not hanging.

tempestuous, ttuuxxx: THANK YOU progress

Edit: attached is the interface information from 217.. is it possible the second interface is not included in the zd1211rw pet?

Just looked, pic is from 217... why I would like version on the screen....

[rjbrewer]

Tried latest tempestuous module. Zd1211rw does load but
still no interface found.
Tried with a full install on my pc.....same results.

Full install has a different issue. Will not see any usb device;
not even in gparted.

Tried usb utils pet....no difference.

[Minnesota]

rjbrewer:
Did you unload the old one, and reload? Modprobe might take a while so wait....

Once installed, there will now be 2 drivers trying to claim the same device, it may be necessary to unload the one you don't want, before loading the one you do want, like this -
Code:
rmmod zd1211b
modprobe zd1211rw

Now it will be necessary to run the Network Wizard.

My old one was zd1211, no b

[ttuuxxx]

Ok guys here's a completely useless waste of a download, but its cute lol its basically a little dockapp and if we had a working screensaver it could be a really nice screensaver, it has sounds and even a tetris game, just install it and refresh, you'll have a item listing in games.
here's the site for it.
http://aquariumapplet.sourceforge.net/
ttuuxxx

[ttuuxxx]

Well guys I've been busy all day hacking this little doc applet that shows you the realtime cpu usage, It was too big for the taskbar and everything was covered up etc, the nice thing about it when you left clicked on it, it would launch a gnome application, so I changed that to a launch Firefox instead then was the hard part of figuring out how to remove all the graphical lines from scrolling and how to position the actual number outputs in a different location since everything was cropped way smaller for the taskbar, but the end result is pretty nice, there's a pic below I'll include it in the next release
ttuuxxx

[sinc]

the little aquarium works fine for me. it is a tiny little thing . anyway to "fullscreen it" so I can see it? it opens up in a really small window. i changed the applet size ratio but it did not change its size. in the menu entry its called shermans_applet if you are planning on keeping this it might be more descriptive to call it shermans aqaurium as you did in the download. keep it up, i love it

the cpu usage app looks cool but if you need to save space i don't suppose you have to have the firefox logo in it. like i said, it looks good it just doesn't absolutely have to be there.

[sinc]

what is glipper for? why does it record EVERY single thing I do? it probably recorded that I just typed this.

[ttuuxxx]

what is glipper for? why does it record EVERY single thing I do? it probably recorded that I just typed this.

Glipper is a extra clipboard that make your copy and paste life much easier, The default copy/paste clipboards in linux are terrible, glipper fills the void, you can disable it if you want but it does help. I usually use parcellite, its another clipboard manager, has more functions and its a bit smaller.
ttuuxxx

[OlddogNewtricks]

News-flash!
Flash-10.0.32.18 now available. A quick test and all seems well.

[davesurrey]

Hello ttuuxxx and fellow 214X-aficionados,

I have been away from the forum for the last 2 weeks as my elderly Mother fell ill and had to go to hospital as an emergency so I needed to ensure she was okay. All well now so back to 214X.

Well a lot seems to have happened and I just installed 214x7 frugal and have the following observations which may be of interest.

1. up until v4 progress seemed to be very positive then I installed v6 and had a few probs. Life happens! However v7 seems a real big jump ahead again. Thanks for the new additions and the fixes. But it also seems even stabler than before. It may be because I have been away but I just get the feeling it's rock solid. Very encouraging.

However...... just a few issues....some of which I've reported before but it's a long thread

2. the installer (PUI) still seems to have a mind of it's own. Perhaps I have been spoiled with the installer in Puppy 412 and 420, but this one doesn't give the option of making a psubdirectory, it puts vmlinuz and initrd in /hdb1/boot/puppy214R and the rest in /mnt/home which in my case is hdb3. Not at all logical. I can easily sort it out manually but could be very confusing for a Puppy beginner.

3. No (Dillo based) welcome page at start-up. I guess you'll make one later?

4. All the choose-locale, keyboard language setup etc works just fine. Great. Thanks.

5. Desktop Drive Icon Manager still doesn't work.

6. Would you consider putting back the email desktop icon please.

7. Tried to select DVDRipper (vanRed) from the Menu but doesn't work. Trying from the CLI doesn't report any errors however.

8. As before if you run Firefox from the Menu then on exiting the desktop icons disappears temporarily (xserver reboots??) but this doesn't happen if you run FF from the desktop icon.

9. This is just my opinion but I think Beep Media Player really spoils the look of what is a good looking distro. Just my personal opinion. I'll probably use xmms-1.2.1.1.pet instead but it begs the question will pet-begone from pizzasgood work on 214X so I can delete a few of the applications I won't need. Am I correct that it would need a file listing all installed apps to work?

10. Launching MUT from the desktop works great but it doesn't launch from the Menu.

11. The volume labels for individual partitons in MUT don't overlap other info anymore. Many thanks for this.

12. In general there seems a disconnect between /etc/fstab and some functions.

If I add a partition, the icon is added to the desktop. If I then delete that partition the icon remains on the desktop. To get rid of the desktop icon I have to manually delete the line for that partition in /etc/fstab. MUT and PMount behave properly

Also if I, for example. have windows on hda1, debian on hda2, and puppy on hda3 then the desktop drive icons would be called hda1, hda2 and home.

If I had windows on hda1, puppy on hda2 and debian on hda3 then the icons would be called hda1, hda3 and home.

Okay that seems logical.

However if I then add another partition hda4 then the icons will be ordered: hda1, hda3, home, hda4. In other words the new partition icon comes after home. Not very logical. Again this can be fixed by manually re-ordering the partitions in /etc/fstab/ . But it seems to indicate to me a disconnect with /etc/fstab somewhere.

13. All (well most ) of the problems that I had previously with having loads of partitions seem to have been fixed for which many many thanks. Does v7 use MUT2 for this as the scripts seem different?

14. Still can't mount more than 9 partitions on hdb but I accept that this now seems to affect not just 214x but most Puppys and as I am most probably in the minority so will continue to add the extra nodes using "mknod /dev/hdXX b Y Z" as mentioned in this thread a while ago.

15. One thing I feel is of general interest is that if I mount a partition using MUT then I need to mouse-over the desktop icon for the green light to come on, and if I unmount I need to mouse-over for it to go off.

Whereas if I use Pmount I don't need to mouse-over for the green light to appear but I do need to mouse-over for it to go off after I unmount.

But....as I said before version 7 is a great leap forward for which many thanks. Please take this as constructive feedback and no criticism of what is turning out to be a great distro.

And if any of this has been covered before then my apologies but this thread is so long I can easily have missed something.

Cheers
Dave

[ttuuxxx]

Wow dave you had me laugh at most of that, just because of the size and the list, lol man I'm going to have to read it a few times.
but one quick answer
if you first place a dvd in a your dvdburner/player than try Vanred it should work, the program itself will not start unless you have a dvd in the burner/player

Also I took aftstep dock clock and shrinked it 50% in size and change the background, First Time I've seen a analog clock on the taskbar, its kind of cool with the second hand moving, takes a lot less space also.
What do people think of this?
ttuuxxx

[clarf]

ttuuxxx, While you play with the taskbar could you tell me please, those taskbar modifications are compatible with IceWM, How they look?. Like me, I know you are a IceWM fan too.

The analog clock seems a good addition, but I don´t like the CPU usage dock (although the launch application feature could be usefull, it could be used to launch Htop or another resources meter app).

I prefer the old graphic bar, because it has some historical record and you can see clearly the CPU usage in time. Please don´t remove this one from the taskbar.

[MinHundHettePerro]

Greetings!

CPU usage meter - Yes, please but, preferably with a bar, as well as a numerical percentage (perhaps better without the firefox launch icon, though).

Analog Clock in the tray - Yes, please. Is there a .pet, a .bin or some script available as of NOW ?

Desktop Drive Icon Manager, part of PupEventManager, I gather - I've also wondered about this, isn't this superfluous, since we already have the superb Hotpup? Or is it needed for some background event business?

cheers/
MHHP

[davesurrey]

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[MinHundHettePerro]

Greetings!
davesurrey, there were three posts between your second last and your last post, which you've seemingly thought the better of to edit, who pissed you off, so as to count to ten? If I unknowingly did, I'd be the first to apologise .

cheers/
MHHP

[clarf]

Hi ttuuxxx, I finally could test imagination the dvd slide show maker(after a month or more , sorry for my delay).

I liked it. It´s easy to use and has a good looking GUI, I could make a mpeg slideshow in just seconds, very fast application with nice features.

Thanks for making the pet now it´s in my app collection for Puppy, just don´t know if we have space to include it in the next release and don´t know if anybody else tried it.

[davesurrey]

MHHP:
Hi again (after a brief interlude):
Thanks for your concern but no, you haven't done anything at all to anger me. But I admire your decency and concern for which I thank you.
Cheers
Dave

[ttuuxxx]

Hello ttuuxxx and fellow 214X-aficionados,
Cheers
Dave

Ok I'ts not so late now, I'll try working on the list and sorry to hear about your mother, hope shes doings better.

2 - installer - I'll have to try to use a more current one
3 - I must I need a newer html based welcome screen, pdf doesn't work right with the current setup, its part of the delayed startup script.
5 - I'll look at the desktop drive manager and see whats wrong with that.
6 - If I put back the email on the desktop, It won't launch the Simple Mail plugin, So it would be a dead link on the desktop, I don't see why it would be needed?
7 - Insert dvd first than try VanRed
8 - I'll look into the menu thing for FireFox
9 - BMP vs XMMS well they are 2 of the same, The only real differnce is the menu, They use the same skins, do You have a xmms skin you like the most? If so I can add it to BMP, I like that the eq works on this one and plus this one has mp4 4acc.
10 I'll fix the mut link
12 - 15 fstab any ideas for fixes?

Thanks for the well documented list dave, great job on it.
ttuuxxx

[ttuuxxx]

the cpu usage meter is handy the other meter which was included wasn't a cpu meter it was a system load meter, which basically was a total system load including cpu, but since we already have a memory and now cpu that should cover the system load functions, having them separately gives you a better perspective on whats what, having a Firefox quick launch included with it is a bonus because you can easily launch multiple windows with it. as a quicklaunch item it would probably get most most used than any other application. I was trying to combine freememory and cpu in one applet but I failed miserably, lol
I can add back the system load status, ok lets talk about colours lol what should the background be, blue to match all the other desktop icons, themes, background?
ttuuxxx

[disciple]

Ttuuxxx, do you mind uploading the source to the cpu usage thing you've been hacking at? I'd quite like to play with it myself. Thanks.

9 - BMP vs XMMS well they are 2 of the same, The only real differnce is the menu,

But isn't BMP GTK2? So like audacious it would be a lot slower and not work well on some machines that xmms works fine on... what is actually better about audacious that makes you prefer it? If you're just getting rid of GTK1.2 that's fair enough too.