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rjbrewer


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PostPosted: Wed 13 May 2009, 17:42    Post_subject:  

Installed upup_471, frugal and full, to have a look.

Using Gxine to watch Pup-tv Scifi-channel:
Cpu usage is only 40 to 50% that of the 4.xxx Puppies.
Runs cooler and smoother.

Excellent!!

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ttuuxxx


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PostPosted: Thu 14 May 2009, 00:02    Post_subject: Gnome Games Lite Version 6.3MB pet  

Hi guys well I figured why not have some games for the repo, I had a look at the default Gnome Games package in jaunty well it was big, I had it around 21MB pet plus it still needed Python and Python gtk, to be added, well lets just say for the average puppy user this is a bit much for like 17 games, so I figured out whats what with the package and removed 3 games and knocked it down to 6.3MB pet all included, doesn't need Python and others deps that way.


removed

-gnome-gnibbles
-gnome-sudoku
-gnome-glchess

http://www.puppylinux.asia/tpp/ttuuxxx/UpupJ5.0/Games/gnome-games-Lite_2.26.1-i486-uj.pet

gnome-games-Lite_2.26.1-i486-uj|gnome|games-Lite_2.26.1-i486-uj||Fun|14000K|pet_packages-5|gnome-games-Lite_2.26.1-i486-uj.pet|+aiksaurus,+gtk2|Gnome Games Lite|ubuntu|jaunty|5|

well enjoy, maybe a little feedback??
ttuuxxx

PS it comes with tons of card games Smile if you look at the fullscreen.jpg below you'll see a small part of the actual amount Smile, must be around 100 different card games in the menu.
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PostPosted: Thu 14 May 2009, 04:13    Post_subject: Latest Gimp 2.6.6  

Hi Guys I figured whats a repo without the latest Gimp Smile So here it is , most people will only need the first file below, the other 3 are for Locales, help documents, and compiling files. This package is way smaller than the Ubuntu one due to it not using Python, and also being broken up like it should be.
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Gimp
http://www.puppylinux.asia/tpp/ttuuxxx/UpupJ5.0/Graphics/gimp-2.6.6-i486-uj.pet
gimp-2.6.6-i486-uj|gimp|2.6.6-i486-uj||BuildingBlock|20000K|pet_packages-5|gimp-2.6.6-i486-uj.pet|+gtk2|Image Editor|ubuntu|jaunty|5|

Gimp Locales
http://www.puppylinux.asia/tpp/ttuuxxx/UpupJ5.0/Graphics/gimp_NLS-2.6.6-i486-uj.pet
gimp_NLS-2.6.6-i486-uj|gimp_NLS|2.6.6-i486-uj|||28000K|pet_packages-5|gimp_NLS-2.6.6-i486-uj.pet||Locales|ubuntu|jaunty|5|

Gimp Documents
http://www.puppylinux.asia/tpp/ttuuxxx/UpupJ5.0/Graphics/gimp_DOC-2.6.6-i486-uj.pet
gimp_DOC-2.6.6-i486-uj|gimp_DOC|2.6.6-i486-uj|||8044K|pet_packages-5|gimp_DOC-2.6.6-i486-uj.pet||Documents|ubuntu|jaunty|5|

Gimp Dev Files
http://www.puppylinux.asia/tpp/ttuuxxx/UpupJ5.0/Graphics/gimp_DEV-2.6.6-i486-uj.pet
gimp_DEV-2.6.6-i486|gimp_DEV|2.6.6-i486|||28000K|pet_packages-5|gimp_DEV-2.6.6-i486.pet|+aiksaurus,+gtk2|Locales|ubuntu|jaunty|5|

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PostPosted: Thu 14 May 2009, 04:48    Post_subject:  

@ttuuxxx

Thanks for the gnome games. Nice size too Smile .

Had to use fixmenus to see the menu entries under "Fun", but all seems to run OK

How about putting the chess stuff in a different pet?

I know from having tried it, that gnuchess does run OK in uPup Alpha 6 using xboard as the front end for the gnuchess engine.

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PostPosted: Thu 14 May 2009, 05:01    Post_subject:  

tronkel wrote:
@ttuuxxx

Thanks for the gnome games. Nice size too Smile .

Had to use fixmenus to see the menu entries under "Fun", but all seems to run OK

How about putting the chess stuff in a different pet?

I know from having tried it, that gnuchess does run OK in uPup Alpha 6 using xboard as the front end for the gnuchess engine.


Hi tronkel,

I trying to stay away from installing python, because once I do, Then I'll have to start over fresh again on my pc, There was a nice flash chess game in the forum, actually I think it looked better, lol it was only like 40kb hmmmm here's a link
http://home.no.net/zigbert/downloaders/top10_games/flash-chess.pet
I'm also moved on now, deleted the games sources files, well I kept the game pet Smile If you still have the chess game maybe shoot a package together, I'm working on Xsane for gimp and then maybe one more big program before bed.
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PostPosted: Thu 14 May 2009, 05:36    Post_subject:  

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Had to use fixmenus to see the menu entries under "Fun", but all seems to run OK


m m m . . . must remember that
games and Gimp working OK on Alpha 7 - thanks Ttuuxxx Cool

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PostPosted: Thu 14 May 2009, 05:46    Post_subject: Gimp-Xsane  

This version will only work if you have Gimp installed, So don't install it unless you have Gimp, This package will allow you to directly user your scanner with Gimp Smile
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PostPosted: Thu 14 May 2009, 06:21    Post_subject: Galculator the Calculator ,lol  

Well heres the most changed to calculator, I know we have one in 4 series but I figured we should have one in 5 series also.
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Jim1911

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PostPosted: Thu 14 May 2009, 11:50    Post_subject:  

ttuuxxx,

Thank you for those new Rox themes and your excellent instructions for installing them. They look great.

Also, thank you for the Gnome games and gcalculator .pets. (Also tried these on 4.2.1 and games did not work properly.)

One question, how do you get these to show up in the menu? Usually, just editing the /usr/share/applications *.desktop file to assure that the *.desktop has the right category (or adding a *.desktop file) is sufficient to get them recognized for the menu. However, that doesn't work with upup.

Your contribution's continue to amaze. Looking forward to your Living Water based on upup or dpup.

Thanks,
Jim
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PostPosted: Thu 14 May 2009, 13:47    Post_subject:  

Jim1911 wrote:
ttuuxxx,

Thank you for those new Rox themes and your excellent instructions for installing them. They look great.

Also, thank you for the Gnome games and gcalculator .pets. (Also tried these on 4.2.1 and games did not work properly.)

One question, how do you get these to show up in the menu? Usually, just editing the /usr/share/applications *.desktop file to assure that the *.desktop has the right category (or adding a *.desktop file) is sufficient to get them recognized for the menu. However, that doesn't work with upup.

Your contribution's continue to amaze. Looking forward to your Living Water based on upup or dpup.

Thanks,
Jim


Upup has a the new2dir script, and plus it has been updated, once its finished making the script it launches a new application the makes those big long entries you see on my post.
Probably have to "fixmenus" and "restart X server", and if that don't work try "fixmenus" and the exitX and go to the prompt that "xwin jwm"
Hope that helps, Wink

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PostPosted: Thu 14 May 2009, 15:02    Post_subject:  

ttuuxxx,

I spoke too soon, your gnome games showed up properly after a reboot. On some others, ie Bibletime, Firefox, Thunderbird, Pidgin that I had installed using Install, I had overlooked that the Categories were wrong. After editing, they now appear properly. I also discovered that after using "fixmenus" and going to the prompt that "xwin jwm" must be entered. For some reason, although "xwin" restarted jwm, that wasn't sufficient to get the new menu items.

Thanks again,
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PostPosted: Thu 14 May 2009, 15:27    Post_subject:  

Jim read my previous post , LOL LOL LOL
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PostPosted: Thu 14 May 2009, 23:40    Post_subject: Pidgin 2.5.5 baseline version 1.7MB  

Hi guys well I wanted to make a small version of pidgin like Barry has done in the past and after like 10 different tries I managed to bring it down to a 1.78MB pet, wow not bad at all. Its a lot harder to make pidgin this small due to the all the extras you get with added gnome libs in Upup and utf8 adds around 500kb of extras in a gnome config script, I had to manually remove over 4000 lines of code scattered in it. What a pain, way easier to make a full blown version of pidgin.
anyways please test it and report back what plugins aren't working and I'll remove them, I was thinking about stripping it down of some of the IM clients anyways. Later on when woofs released I'll build a full version with gstreamer, etc for voice.
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PostPosted: Fri 15 May 2009, 02:08    Post_subject:  

@ttuuxxx

running pidgin from Woof Alpha 8
1. remember to put in fixmenus at console - and restart X
2. when running pidgin an icon appears bottom right - goes straight in to background - click on that to have program on screen

Many thanks Smile

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PostPosted: Sun 17 May 2009, 04:32    Post_subject:  

Hey Ttuuxxx, do you mind in future packaging things like gnome-mplayer separately from big dependencies like Mplayer? It means people can install or update them separately... it is particularly relevant in this example as people often need to use special builds of Mplayer for various reasons.
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