Project Coordinator Threatened ....

[Béèm]

I feel being teleported in a kindergarten.

[James C]

Exactly what is all of this back and forth bickering supposed to accomplish? A bunch of name calling back and forth isn't getting anyone anywhere.

I assume by now that many, if not most, people reading this thread and those familiar with the personalities involved have formed an opinion about this and more finger pointing and name calling is not going to help matters.

I don't have a lot of posts but I've been wandering around this forum for about a year and a half and it is sad to see things deteriorate to this point.

[jamesjeffries2]

Exactly what is all of this back and forth bickering supposed to accomplish? A bunch of name calling back and forth isn't getting anyone anywhere.

I assume by now that many, if not most, people reading this thread and those familiar with the personalities involved have formed an opinion about this and more finger pointing and name calling is not going to help matters.

I don't have a lot of posts but I've been wandering around this forum for about a year and a half and it is sad to see things deteriorate to this point.

here here, at the end of the day everyone wants the best for each release and everyone does their best to make it so. things have been said, and possibly taken the wrong way or possibly not but this is achieving nothing but causing a divide. lets get this behind and get another great version of puppy out there

[ecomoney]

I would dearly love to, and I really mean that, but until we get to the root cause of these problems its likely to just as problematic.

[elraven]

Whodo don't you dare give into this type of pressure. You do a super job here and don't forget that. It isn't easy to head a group and make a new puppy. Each person feels some passion in their suggestions as to what the next puppy should have in it. This has its proper place but with community efforts its a balancing act. Personally I feel that "homer" simpson needs a chill pill . If he thinks its so easy to come up with bugfixes and the like , then he should offer them up to the community. All of us here ARE A COMMUNITY , a collective of ideas , dreams, and hopes. Please don't let these things die . Now , as for those who get ticked off by my post here , and ask who the "!*#?" is this guy ? I'm a puppy user , and i've been around since puppy 106. Now you'll excuse me i'm getting off my soap box .
Your friend "like it or not"
elraven

[ecomoney]

Bug fixes start with bug reports, and those reports need careful and systematic identification....we all have our place in the process. Please post more in the future and give everyone the benefit of your long experience. You have your place too.

[Lobster]

We have to look at the effects of individuals.

Ttuuxxx has produced much valuable work. We need productive insanity - assuming he is lucky enough to be crazy.

Warren produced 4.2 and might still be persuaded to stay on for 4.3 but due to the recent effects, he might not be sufficiently crazy to do so . . .
Thanks again Warren.

What valuable effect can come from this?
I know I will diagnose what I will be doing to improve Puppy? m m m . . . [Lobster think hard - comes up with Nothing]
Anybody have a list of their intentions?

I am pleased to remind you that Barry will be producing
an Ubuntu depository based Puppy - Upup, that maybe of Beta quality in the next day or two.
Warren is working (I have no idea how) on a release on 27 April of Deep Thought (4.2.1)

. . . and now back to the records . . .

[ttuuxxx]

ttuuxxx From the deepest part of my soul I'm sorry to caused You and WhoDo so much pain, Sometimes I act like such a jerk, like how I posted the statement above, man I know how to put my foot up my own ass, once again I'm sorry, can you ever see it in your heart to forgive me?? I promise I won't ever act like that again With my deepest respect
Rob
ecomoney of ecomoney sys ltd.

P.s do you know a name of a good Proctologist? To get my foot out of my ass located in England??

Ya sure no problem bud, life goes on and I read Malcolm could help you with your 'little problem'

http://www.alexandrahospital.co.uk/cons ... n-(ms).htm

ttuuxxx
lol

[ecomoney]

a typical psychopath's behavior: for example, the psychopath's ability to tell vivid, lifelike, plausible stories that are completely fraudulent, without evincing any element of delusion. When confronted with a lie, the psychopath is unbothered and can often effortlessly pass it off as a joke

Source

If I were Mrs Ttuxxx....I would be worried

We have to look at the effects of individuals.

........

What valuable effect can come from this?

Some of the many other contributors to puppy linux, put off by Ttuxxx's tactics would return. The forum would be a friendly place again, where anyone could contribute without fear.

Time will tell.....

[ttuuxxx]

ecomoney,ecomoney I gave you a small doorway of opportunity to escape from all this hurt and suffering you've caused on here, I actually made a joke out of it, but being the knob you like to be you chosen the path of even being a greater knob, your like the supreme knob of knobsville lol
I bet you've had many blond moments like this , lol
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6j9gx ... -prank_fun
ttuuxxx

[ecomoney]

Hurt and suffering?

It was never here before you arrived Ttuxxx. Give me my happy puppy back!!!

[ecomoney]

P.S. your choice of viewing speaks volumes of you, a picture speaks a thousand words, but a video speaks a million.

[ttuuxxx]

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It was never here before you arrived Ttuxxx. Give me my happy puppy back!!!

Really there's been 2 FW in this forum you and Zigbert, Posting that page is no big deal, Sure I've said some things but really I don't give a stuff about the both of you one bit. Also don't try to shift the topic away from you and focus it on me, nice try. but thats what those other threads are made for, not this one, This thread is about how you verbally Threatened WhoDo, lets keep the focus, bud.
lol knob
ttuuxxx

[ecomoney]

It seems you were the one that went complaining to him that I used swearwords at you in a PM last time you publicly likened me to a male appendage Ttuxxx, no wonder he expected me to give him similar, and took it that way when he recieved my actually pretty diplomatically worked request for a timescale on fixing the bugs (strangely in the areas you worked on) in 4.2.

This is still pretty on topic as far as I can see. You cannot hide in the background, stirring up controversy and trying to pick off dissenting voices to your opinions......one by one. Your destructive tactics are obvious.

[ttuuxxx]

What a joke, Hey I was fine until 2 things changed around here
1st Zigbert tried taking away something I worked hard for on 4.2 and failed and then tried a month later.
What he gets in return is what is what he wanted in the first place, to piss me off. Jealousy is a terrible thing especially when your like Zigbert and can't let go.
2nd You getting mad and blaming and shaming the people who worked day and night to give you what your using on your pc, Didn't anyone ever tell you "You never bite the hand the feeds you" well you've more than bitten it, you ate the whole hand and arm.
That shows a great deal of disrespect, and hey I'm not the kind of guy who is going to say ya sure its ok you can crap all over everything. "No Can Do" lol knob Wake up Rob you act like your running things when actually you have no weight or pull around here at all, Next time you need something from me I'm just going to say "Get stuffed"
ttuuxxx

[Py]

I don't see any big reasons why we couldn't. The main thing, under the traditional method of Puppy development, is that two trees would have to be maintained. No big deal. In the Git method it would also be fairly simple (and more space efficient) - keep separate "stable" and "development" branches.

I think this is a very good idea. I would be a "stable" user - and back to using Puppy again. I stopped using it when too many things did not work out of the box.

This is no reflection on anyone's effort here. It is just the way I enjoy using Puppy.

Thank you all for all the effort you put in.

Best wishes,

[ecomoney]

Zigberts work on making puppy actually useable by non-developers has IMHO been one of the main factors puppies recent rise to popularity. Ive thanked him many times. From what Ive seen he is a very unassuming and modest character who is more than willing to lend his skills to provide what is actually needed in puppy more than anything else...a user friendly front end!

It seems I have you to thank for a bugged-out word-processor and printing system, and a browser that gives out security warnings on first bootup.....not things your average computer user appreciates, Windows or Linux. By your own admittance, you havnt contributed anything to standard puppy apart from a shutdown dialog?

If you hadnt "contributed" to 4.2, who would have? Would it be better or worse than it is?

If its respect your after Ttuxxxx

A. earn it
B. give it to others

FYI Im not running anything, but Im observing a lot, as are others....so please moderate your language on the forum.

P.S. Please remember Ive contributed a relatively stable java/flash/enabled firefox that works with all features on the most popular websites, and a modern office suite to the latest puppy....not that im a great "technical" developer....just a little more in touch with what people want than some!

[elraven]

while this might not be the place , i'll throw out my question any how. It might be helpful if it were known on what computers were the problems happening? For instance , i run an intel 2.66 with an 80gig hd and 512megs of ram. My only problem was with gparted which would not show any of my partitions. Having pmagic on a disc i easily got around my problem. This is the reason i didn't report it. perhaps that was a mistake on my part. The other reason i didn't report it was Whodo was swamped already with reports. Any way , maybe by looking at the pc's running 4.2 perhaps it might shed some light on things.
elraven

[puppyluvr]

Hello,
You know, there are so many people who have contributed great things to Puppy....And isnt that the point.....Just imagine if they could all get along..

@Ttuuxxx,
Dude, you need a post in your defense...If I had something included in the "Official" Puppy, I`d be thrilled too...And if someone screwed me out of it, I`d be pissed off too...
But that is "Open Source"...
I believe you`ve been accused of "Riding Coattails" before..
I`ve said before, "If it says Ttuuxxx, it works"...
I wasnt kissing butt..its true...your stuff works..I trust it....
You got there by learning from others, and adapting what you learn to suit your own needs...
That is what Linux is...ask Richard Stallman....
The reality is that anything you create here, eventually, someone else will "recreate" later...
Please dont let that stop you, as there is a lot I want to steal...ahmmm LEARN. from you yet....
Get it dude,??? Dont be angry, it wont help...even if you are right..(and you are)... that don`t help does it???

Well, I was so hoping to say something to make you feel better...

[tronkel]

Ecomoney wrote:

I admit these are bold statements against our "lead developer"

The above statement could really do with some further consideration.

As far as Puppy 4.2 is concerned, nobody (as far as I know) was never officially appointed lead developer as such. Ttuuxxx though, has seen fit to submit packages to be considered for inclusion in this version.

He submits the package to the builder (WhoDo in this case), who then test-runs the program on the hardware he happens to have at the time. If it seems basically OK the package can then get included in the build. At that point it is then down to the community to test and feed back any issues to the co-ordinator.

This is the way other distros do it.

The point here is, that the contributor of the package (ttuuxxx in this case) is, in no shape or form, offering any kind of guarantee as to its suitability for the purpose here. You take it or leave it mate. This is the land of free software - there are no guarantees at all.

Ecomoney, I have to say that I'm not at all impressed by your "diagnosis" and clarification of Ttuuxxx's alleged disturbed "societal adjustment" and the various comparisons you put forward. There is no place in this forum for such discussion and discourse where it concerns another forum member. It's really no concern of yours what the situation with "Mrs Ttuuxxx" is either.

This sort of ad hominem attack on another member has led to people having been banned before. I'm starting to change my mind on thinking that you should not be banned. That is not up to me personally but, I would watch my step here if I were you, just in case that comes to pass. We wouldn't want that now, would we?