Slaxer_Pup 4.12 solid and stable non woof build

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#46 Post by 01micko »

Ok big_bass :mrgreen:

First impressions of Slaxer-pup 4.12. Nice!

I run an Asus A7S8X.... SiS chipset, (AMD 2100+ Athlon, 512DDR ram, shared with graphics, onboard Sata.... which in the verbose bootup was detected, though I've no Sata drives... Beem would like it!

Sound and network worked OOTB, both onboard, no probs with xorg, onboard 64M graphics.

Was a little slower to boot than a stock Puppy, extra things in the list to detect I expect, but none the less it looks and feels very crisp. :wink:

I like it! Now to try on a slower box... (don't think the 486 is quite up to it live though :wink: )

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#47 Post by 01micko »

8) Hi big_bass

Well I'm back on my oldish IBM Aptiva... SiS chipset AMD k6 400MHz, 256sdram, 8M shared graphics, onboard sound and USB... all the onboard stuff was detected at bootup plus my 2 realtek ethernet cards. All worked too. :wink:

Had some trouble with wireless, that's the only way this box connects. Using my netgearWG111V2 (realtek.. rtl8187) was a failure, but I blame the card. I can only get it to run sweetly on a fast box in any puppy, and then it needs tweaking, depends how far from the router I am... :roll: . It was detected at bootup but I couldn't raise it, even with "if config wlan0 up" command. So I plugged in my el cheapo TP-link wireless B-G adapter and it was not detected at bootup. I racked my brain and remembered it is a Ralink using rt37usb module. I loaded that and here I am in about 60seconds. :P

So for me slaxer-pup is great.. now to try the lappy :twisted:

One thing I forgot to mention... for some reason this OS seems to play an mp3 file better than 4.2 and marginally better than spup using BK's woof kernel. This box is too slow to test flash. I need this kernel for my spup!!!!
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#48 Post by Lobster »

mans best friend is
puppy pfix=ram


The truth :)

Many thanks.
I am using it on an AMD Athlon X2 dual processor - with the newer ISO you have posted.
I don't seem to have two processors running - what is the command line scriipt - that show this? (I ran top view from the menu)

Seems OK so far . . . :)
I tried the 'flush memory' script you included but that did not seem to close the audio player used to test audio (worked)

I have been through the thread 3 times now.
I am trying hard to understand what you have done and why? 8)
It seems quite technical - the good news for those wondering it looks and feels like Puppy 4.12 8)
The real question I have is how is this different to woof built spup?
Is it in the kernel and compression used?
You have started from Slackware with the configuration file rather than with Puppy?
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#49 Post by 01micko »

big_bass

Back again.

Lappy is an IBM Thinkpad R31, Celery 1066(P3 architcture), 512sdram, 8M Intel graphics, again, everything on board works OOTB! Even the Trackpoint stick thingy. Nice.

Ok, wireless. I have a Netgear WG511V2 pcmcia card on this one... crappy Marvell chipset unsupported by Linux... however it works a treat in all Puppies with ndiswrapper. This is where I hit a snag. :cry: . All seemed to be going ok when I got a fatal error.... no ndiswrapper module! Please load another module! Ah well, two outa three aint bad! And if I tried another adapter I know it would work :wink: But I couldn't be bothered ATM (Sorry!)

Hope some of this helps... and if not, at least puts a smile on your dial knowing that three vastly different sets of HW work just fine OOTB with Slaxer_Pup :mrgreen:

Does BK know what your up to? I'm sure he'd be interested.

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#50 Post by 01micko »

@Lobster

I think that what big_bass has done is used the slackware 12.2 kernel only, obviously with patches to get it to run live. I think all the packages are stock 4.1.2.

Spup from woof uses either a stock 4.1.2 kernel or Barry's woof kernel... sorry forget the number ATM and I'm not near a running spup box. Then many of the packages come from the Slackware 12.2 repo or the Slacky.eu repo and are stripped by woof's scripts.

So essentially, Slaxer_Pup is Slackware 12.2 in Puppy clothing and spup is woof in Slackware clothing. Sheep don't come into it. Does this make any sense at all??? :lol: :lol: :lol:

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#51 Post by aragon »

01micko wrote:Ok, wireless. I have a Netgear WG511V2 pcmcia card on this one... crappy Marvell chipset unsupported by Linux... however it works a treat in all Puppies with ndiswrapper. This is where I hit a snag. :cry:
hi micko,

if i interpret barry's actual notes on his 2.6.29.1-kernel right, ndiswrapper uses the fuse-modul. so ndiswrapper maybe needs a recompile agains the slaxer-kernel/slaxer-fuse-module.

just a thought.

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#52 Post by Lobster »

01micko wrote:So essentially, Slaxer_Pup is Slackware 12.2 in Puppy clothing and spup is woof in Slackware clothing. Sheep don't come into it. Does this make any sense at all??? :lol: :lol: :lol:
Slaxer is Slackware with a Puppy front end
Spup is Puppy built from Slackware files

and the sheep are . . . eh . . . :oops:
will have to read the thread again . . .
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#53 Post by aragon »

Lobster wrote:Slaxer is Slackware with a Puppy front end
Puppy with a slackware heart?!?

"Let me now present big_bass as Dr. Christiaan Barnard..."

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#54 Post by elraven »

Thank you , thank you, thank you ! This pup is cool beans ! it scoring big with people that have seen mine and want to know ,"how do i switch to puppy linux". Of course my phone bill is going up , mainly because ladies are calling me asking about it. You know how it is. " Hi, i'm a friend of so and so and i was wondering......" .
Anyway thanks Big Bass your top shelf in my book.
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#55 Post by Roy »

big_bass,

Small test on a SINGLE CORE Dell D610 as a Live CD:[/code]

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Computer
Processor	Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.86GHz
Memory	2062MB (121MB used)
Operating System	Slackware 12.2.0
User Name	root (root)
Date/Time	Tue 21 Apr 2009 05:16:43 PM GMT-8
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Resolution	1024x768 pixels
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Audio Adapter	ICH4 - Intel ICH6
Audio Adapter	ICH-MODEM - Intel ICH6 Modem
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Power Button (CM)	
Sleep Button (CM)	
AT Translated Set 2 keyboard	
USB OpticalWheel Mouse	
Video Bus	
Video Bus	
Video Bus	
PC Speaker	
PS/2 Mouse	
AlpsPS/2 ALPS GlidePoint	
Printers (CUPS)
CUPS-PDF	(Default)
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ST9160821A	
HL-DT-STCD-RW/DVD-ROM GCC-4244N	
SCSI Disks
hama Piko Business2.0
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Compiled	#1 SMP Mon Nov 24 13:32:01 Local time zone must be set--see zic
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est	
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Printers
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Serial Number	4499
Sensors
ACPI Thermal Zone
THM	44°C
Input Devices
Input Devices
Lid Switch	
Power Button (CM)	
Sleep Button (CM)	
AT Translated Set 2 keyboard	
USB OpticalWheel Mouse	
Video Bus	
Video Bus	
Video Bus	
PC Speaker	
PS/2 Mouse	
AlpsPS/2 ALPS GlidePoint	
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IDE Disks
ST9160821A	
HL-DT-STCD-RW/DVD-ROM GCC-4244N	
SCSI Disks
hama Piko Business2.0
Unfortunately, the Universal Installer script would not allow me to create a USB-drive version (as you have already noted). No wireless access points are available for testing, but Ethernet functions fine.

-Roy

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#56 Post by Roy »

big_bass,

I also tried Slaxer_Pup on my own Dell Mini 9 (Inspiron 910) with an Atom SMP-capable processor. It is actually a single core chip that uses multi-threading, as I understand it. This is a finicky machine that does not like any official Puppy release since the Dingo-retro kernel... but I think this is a puppy thing since it does fine with past and current releases of Ubuntu, Anti-X, Mint, Slitaz, etc.

And the Live CD would not load past this point:

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Loading kernel drivers needed to access disk drives...squashfs: version 3.4 (2008/08/26) Phillip Lougher
squashfs: LZMA support for slax.org by jro
aufs 20081117
fuse init (API version 7.9)
                                                                       done
Searching for Puppy files in computer disk drives...kjournald starting.  Commit interval 5 seconds
EXT3 FS on hda2, internal journal
EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode.
pup_412.sfs not found. Dropping out to initial-ramdisk console...
/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off
#scsi 2:0:0:0: CD-ROM        HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-E50L  NE01 PQ: 0 ANSI: 0
sr0: scsi3mmc drive: 24x/24x writer dvd-ram cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray
Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.20
_
In an attempt to bypass this problem, I loaded Slaxer_Pup onto a 2GB USB memory stick via a Windows version 319 of unetbootin. Other folks have successfully run the later official Puppy distro (k2.6.25.16) on their Mini 9s using this method (and version of unetbootin) on a USB drive. This was as far as that attempt loaded:

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Loading kernel drivers needed to access disk drives...squashfs: version 3.4 (2008/08/26) Phillip Lougher
squashfs: LZMA support for slax.org by jro
aufs 20081117
fuse init (API version 7.9)
                                                                       done
Searching for Puppy files in computer disk drives...kjournald starting.  Commit interval 5 seconds
EXT3 FS on hda2, internal journal
EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode.
pup_412.sfs not found. Dropping out to initial-ramdisk console...
/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off
#scsi 2:0:0:0: Direct-Access    hama     Piko Business2.0 1100 PQ: 0 ANSI: 0 CCS
sd 2:0:0:0: [sda] 3963904 512-byte hardware sectors (2030 MB)
sd 2:0:0:0: [sda] Write Protect is off
sd 2:0:0:0: [sda] Assuming drive cache: write through
sd 2:0:0:0: [sda] 3963904 512-byte hardware sectors (2030 MB)
sd 2:0:0:0: [sda] Write Protect is off
sd 2:0:0:0: [sda] Assuming drive cache: write through
  sda: sda1
sd 2:0:0:0: [sda] Attached SCSI removable disk
_
I would be more than willing to make another attempt with this netbook, if someone could give me directions to follow. Oh, and I tried typing "Puppy Pupdirectory" that was mentioned in a previous poster (this thread), but obviously am not seasoned enough in Linux to pursue the subtle Pupdirectory hint further.

-Roy

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#57 Post by big_bass »

thanks Loster, micko,Roy

for testing and reporting

here is a cheat
to get the info fast
I'll add more


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#!/bin/sh
#quick info grabbing for testing
dmesg >/root/dmesg.txt&&gzip /root/dmesg.txt 
cat /proc/cpuinfo>/root/cpuinfo.txt&&gzip /root/cpuinfo.txt
cp /tmp/bootkernel.log /root&& gzip /root/bootkernel.log
 
#only for xorg uncomment
#cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log>/root&&gzip /root/Xorg.0.log
#cat /tmp/xerrs.txt>/root&&gzip /root/xerrs.txt


Lobster this is what you were looking for
duo detection
see image see the number 2 highlighted


I will make an easy summary of what was done to make Slaxer_Pup
different



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#58 Post by 01micko »

if i interpret barry's actual notes on his 2.6.29.1-kernel right, ndiswrapper uses the fuse-modul. so ndiswrapper maybe needs a recompile agains the slaxer-kernel/slaxer-fuse-module.
I think that's right aragon.... I read that too on BK's blog.

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#59 Post by Béèm »

01micko wrote:I run an Asus A7S8X.... SiS chipset, (AMD 2100+ Athlon, 512DDR ram, shared with graphics, onboard Sata.... which in the verbose bootup was detected, though I've no Sata drives... Beem would like it!
I'll give it a try then. :wink:
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#60 Post by Béèm »

Worth trying, but no joy for the second sata HDD.
Also I didn't see something about my second cpu.
I am pretty sure the kernel I need is 2.6.29.1

With upup-015 (2.6.29.rc7) I have my second sata HDD.
Fortunately Barry announced that he had chosen the 2.6.29.1

I tried wow's unamed also, this one having 2.6.28.5, but this one don't pass the boot.. I get an error message I don't understand and didn't get an answer. But I know wow is very busy.
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#61 Post by davids45 »

G'day Béèm,
I see you've tried the latest smp-capable Pups but still are having no luck with your unmodified Medion 8818. I was going to suggest you try the Slaxer Pup as something different but you beat me to it. Sorry to hear it did not work for you.
On my BIOS-modified 8818, I had not had any problems with any Pups until I tried wow's unnamed and MU's newyear's Pups. I think I have the same problem on my 8818 you report where there is an error during live-CD boot-up and the computer freezes. On my hyper-threading 8383 at home and HT Pentium-4 HP at work, I had these live Pups boot up OK so it may be something else in the dual-core 8818 BIOS setting that is incompatible with these particular Pups.
Here's hoping Woof will be the answer for you and the 8818, in one version or another,
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#62 Post by Béèm »

Hi davids45,
Glad to hear from my fellow MD8818-er.
An as the saying is: A shared burden is half a burden. :wink:

On the smp front, the 420smp is working and I can the two processors.
But the kernel level is too low to see the second sata HDD.

As is with this slaxer 4.12.

I didn't know MU's newyears pup was kinda like wow's unamed, so using the 2.6.28.5 kernel as well?
But giving a problem at boot as well.

So the onlu pup around now id Barry's upup-015 (Intrepid) which supports the second HDD and the kernel being at 2.6.29.rc7
Therefor I was happy to read that Barry did choose the 2.6.29.1 kernel.
However this upup-015 doesn't support the older sfs 3 files, as it is now at sfs 4.
Barry has mentioned this, and I think he is working on the issue.

So to have f.e. OOo in this upup-015, I couldn't use the OOo 3.01 sfs, but with the help of another puppy I made the /opt directory with OOo in it and copied it to upup-015.
This took quite some space of the personal storage, but I can use OOo 3.01 now.
As I have access to my second sata HDD now, I can access my data files on the desktop and don't have to use the laptop for it.

And with the 1GB of ram, puppy's are now very snappy.

As upup-461 (Jaunty) has a lower kernel, it doesn't see the second sata HDD.

So you have in a nutshell my puppy and woof experience.

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#63 Post by big_bass »

Béèm

thanks for posting

if you want to get some help

the best way will be running
this script and attaching the info to this thread
many people will be able to read it
improving your chances

I am working on the USB problem now
but having detailed info helps to solve problems
more quickly

there are a lot of programs that interact
the support may be there but not configured correctly
in the scripts so the first step is to see if the support is there
if it is what is needed to correctly configure it

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#!/bin/sh
#quick info grabbing for testing now all the
#important info is in root with a .gz format
#making it easy for you to upload information
#and attach to a forum post....big_bass
#the files below get placed in root
 
#dmesg.txt.gz
#bootkernel.log.gz
#cpuintfo.txt.gz
#xerrs.log.gz
#Xorg.0.log.gz



dmesg >/root/dmesg.txt&&gzip /root/dmesg.txt
cat /proc/cpuinfo>/root/cpuinfo.txt&&gzip /root/cpuinfo.txt
cp /tmp/bootkernel.log /root&& gzip /root/bootkernel.log
cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log>/root/Xorg.0.log&& gzip /root/Xorg.0.log
cat /tmp/xerrs.log>/root/xerrs.log&& gzip /root/xerrs.log
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#64 Post by tony »

Hi big_bass,

Is there a gslapt package that would work with this ?

Regards Tony.

big_bass
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#65 Post by big_bass »

tony wrote:Hi big_bass,

Is there a gslapt package that would work with this ?

Regards Tony.
Hey tony

gslap works well with slackware people say .......
but even on the "official" slackware
I don't use it

what I do use on "official" slackware is
src2pkg which is a source to package tool

that gives me much more control of how and what I install
since I do a lot of work on the computer
I cant afford to lose work

and auto installing as fun as it could be is too"risky" for me

now if you set up another machine as a test bed thats fine

*DISCLAIMER*
and on "puppy" if you had good results
using gslapt on version 4.12 puppy and documented
working packages they would also work in slaxer_pup
that said



I personally use pkgtool "official slackware tools" on puppy
the old fashioned way still works for me

I will make a pet package for puppy of pkgtool because if not done
right locks the computer I fixed that problem

I use this myself but didn't want to complicate things at this point
since I was hoping to get feedback on if all the hardware
was getting detected

I have many "tools " for package building that I have been using for a long time so they are well tested
that will get included as pet packages and do work
with the official 4.12 also
so .......


did slaxer_pup detect all your hardware correctly :)

big_bass

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