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WRCU2


Joined: 05 Jun 2009
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Location: Hamilton Ontario Canada

PostPosted: Tue 09 Jun 2009, 18:10    Post subject:  

I have installed slaxer_pup quick and dirty just to get the accelerated nvidia drivers and I'm pleased with how easy that was. The trouble now, is that firefox is unstable and my widgets and scroll bars have disappeared.

I didn't want to lose any bookmarks or small tweaks, but now I'm gonna need to fix a few things. Where is a good place to start after such a savagely shoehorned install?
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big_bass

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PostPosted: Tue 09 Jun 2009, 21:40    Post subject:  

WRCU2 wrote:
I have installed slaxer_pup quick and dirty just to get the accelerated nvidia drivers and I'm pleased with how easy that was. The trouble now, is that firefox is unstable and my widgets and scroll bars have disappeared.

I didn't want to lose any bookmarks or small tweaks, but now I'm gonna need to fix a few things. Where is a good place to start after such a savagely shoehorned install?


well great to hear

a little history why
the 412 sfs is completely different and then compressed with lzm

I had to keep the name 412 name the same because it was such a pain to modify every single call to that name and number
I should know I tried it got almost all but pet get got borked
and it wasnt worth the easy fix

1.)just rename your old 412 to something else
oldsfs.sfs if you need an example


2.) boot
Code:
puppy pfix=ram


then install slaxer_pup

now when slaxer pup is running you could mount your oldsfs.sfs


and take out your bookmarks or files you need

if you need firefox I can walk you trough a stable install
with a current version I posted in this thread somewhere before
or make you a pet ---> here's a pet
http://www.puppylinux.asia/tpp/big_bass/slaxer_pup_packages/mozilla-firefox-3.0.9-i686-slxr.pet

to get your old bookmarks they are here
Code:
rox -s /root/.mozilla/default/*.slt/bookmarks.html


don't use your old pupsave the configuration very is different
you could also rename that and take out what ever you need


great to hear the nvidia works for you now Very Happy

Joe
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big_bass

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PostPosted: Wed 10 Jun 2009, 10:27    Post subject:  

I updated pkgtools you need this instead if you downloaded my previous package this helps ease the transition to puppy
by registering the packages in JWM and icewm in the menu

I know there are quite a few people that don't understand what I am doing with slackware package tools and src2pk

I have been working on this since puppy version 3.01
to extend the package managment of puppy... umm slaxer pup too

what will happen is I will make puppy 4.12 compatible packages
also so any puppy based on 4.12 can use my work also
but all the tools I am adding makes that work much "easier"







pkgtools updated 6/10/09 to add JWM and iceWM fixmenus
slackware pkgtools as a pet to install official slackware packages
http://puppylinux.asia/tpp/big_bass/slaxer_pup_packages/pkgtools-12.1.0-patched-8-i486-slxr.pet
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gronos04

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Location: Radfordia QLD

PostPosted: Wed 10 Jun 2009, 15:20    Post subject:  

Thanks for your efforts in this derivitive. I like the concept.
I have tried Slaxer_Pup on many machines to date and all has worked well.
On the newer motherboards that I have it is not necessary to turn off the ACPI to get them to boot which is a big plus.
I am trying to get Virtual Box running and have downloaded the kernel-source-2.6.27.7-smp-1.lzm and rename it to kernel-source-2.6.27.7-smp-1_412.sfs.
Got Virtual Box installed OK but the driver won't compile.
I have installed Virtual Box on many versions of puppy so I am familiar with the method but the right kernel-source module is critical.

the error log reads

Makefile:156: *** Error: /usr/src/linux (version 2.6.27.7-smp) does not match the current kernel (version 2.6.27.7). Stop.

So it does not like the smp version. I cannot find a non smp version.

Thanks
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WRCU2


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Location: Hamilton Ontario Canada

PostPosted: Wed 10 Jun 2009, 20:07    Post subject:  

Thanks for the assistance Joe. I'm truly impressed with your puppy so far as I reinstalled from it scratch. I've got the nvidia driver back in and installed the Firefox you posted above. However, there is a boatload of missing library *.so's that the package manager hasn't got a clue about.

In my previous life I would've gone to rpmfind.net and determined which libraries contained the missing so's, but now I'm completely lost.

SOS
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gronos04

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PostPosted: Fri 12 Jun 2009, 09:43    Post subject:  

Hi WRCU2,
Have you tried to run Firefox to see if it works?
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big_bass

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PostPosted: Fri 12 Jun 2009, 09:55    Post subject:  

WRCU2
Quote:
Firefox you posted above. However, there is a boatload of missing library *.so's that the package manager hasn't got a clue about.


firefox is compiled to "include" gnome( mostly for distros that have gnome pre installed ) as a possible window manager
while slackware uses KDE

if you fill all those gnome dependencies and do not install gnome
thats a big waste of time and space which does not improve the basic function

thats is no cause for alarm
if it is working for you correctly
no problem so in this case you can ignore
any gnome libs needed


so as long as firefox is stable and flash works
celebrate the newer version until the next update comes along Laughing

thanks for posting
if you run into any snags let me know


Joe
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PostPosted: Fri 12 Jun 2009, 10:13    Post subject:  

gronos04
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I have tried Slaxer_Pup on many machines to date and all has worked well.
On the newer motherboards that I have it is not necessary to turn off the ACPI to get them to boot which is a big plus.
I am trying to get Virtual Box running and have downloaded the kernel-source-2.6.27.7-smp-1.lzm and rename it to kernel-source-2.6.27.7-smp-1_412.sfs.
Got Virtual Box installed OK but the driver won't compile.


I will upload sources I want to add in some support still
so I have been and still am busy with that

the good news is I would like to help you get VM running

I will up load the sources with a new initrd with the next iso
so I hope you don't mind to wait a bit

thanks for tying slaxer pup and posting

all the posts I receive help make slaxer pup better for more people

I am working on it

Joe
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WRCU2


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Location: Hamilton Ontario Canada

PostPosted: Fri 12 Jun 2009, 15:52    Post subject:  

I was wondering if I'm supposed to run Firefox from a console because there is no menu entry. Also I tried to install REALPLAYER 11 from http://www.puppylinux.ca/tpp/big_bass/ which was no problem but the menu entry appeared to be not executable. I uninstalled and went with RP10.

I'm curious, what is the likelihood of getting a fully enabled iptables netfilter package and kernel? I noticed quite a few of my favorite modules are not present, especially ipt_recent.

So far I'm liking the Slaxer_Pup but I'm a little apprehensive about installing additional packages without a reliable means to resolve dependencies.
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big_bass

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PostPosted: Fri 12 Jun 2009, 23:31    Post subject:  

WRCU2

Quote:
I was wondering if I'm supposed to run Firefox from a console because there is no menu entry. Also I tried to install REALPLAYER 11 from http://www.puppylinux.ca/tpp/big_bass/ which was no problem but the menu entry appeared to be not executable.


uninstall firefox and realplayer here are the correct ones
I have a folder just for slaxer_pup the other packages on that site are for version 3.01

ok taken care of the icon in firefox firefox-here
and I downloaded the latest realpayer 11 and packged it for slaxer_pup realplayer11-here
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WRCU2


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PostPosted: Sat 13 Jun 2009, 07:36    Post subject:  

I should have been more specific, sorry about that. I installed the Firefox you posted previously and there is no menu entry or desktop icon at all. There is however an executable link:

/usr/bin/firefox -> /usr/lib/firefox-3.0.9/firefox which is why I asked if it needs to be run from a terminal. I used Gexec to fire up Firefox and it works fine but I don't relish doing this every time.

What is the best way to create a menu entry or shortcut with slaxer_pup?

Also, what can I do to get a more complete set of Netfilters?

Thanks for all the help Joe.
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PostPosted: Sat 13 Jun 2009, 10:49    Post subject:  

WRCU2
Quote:
What is the best way to create a menu entry or shortcut with slaxer_pup?

Also, what can I do to get a more complete set of Netfilters?



Yesterday, at 23:31 I posted the solution
just install those packages click on the blue firefox link and the blue realplayer link

now for the Netfilters
netfilters-click-here

after you install add block you will be asked what other filters you want

let me how it went

Joe
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PostPosted: Sun 14 Jun 2009, 07:15    Post subject: Installing Apache on Slaxer_Pup
Subject description: Raising your puppy as a web server's watchdog
 

Thanks again Joe. I'm sticking with Realplayer 10 for now and I'll be okay with starting Firefox the old-fashioned way when I need it, since I already set-up Firefox with the extensions I like. Besides, Seamonkey is much quicker for simpler tasks like this.

When I spoke of Netfilters, I was referring to:

/lib/modules/2.6.27.7/kernel/net/netfilter
/usr/lib/iptables

When my puppy grows up, I'd like to DNAT some pesky bots to it from my normal webserver and I'll need to have some rudely configured netfilter rules in place to keep them busy as they snoop around.

Right now I would like to learn more about using src2pkg. I need to install a webserver and I'm most comfortable with Apache. From where do you recommend I go and grab that source?
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PostPosted: Mon 15 Jun 2009, 10:45    Post subject:  

WRCU2



this is a sfs from forum member "growler" he
can give you some tips with the package

hosted on raffy's site
http://minipc.org/lamp/


I have my own way to make desktop icons
that allows them to work for any window manager Cool
paste this code in geany or leafpad

then save it as firefox
*don't use the .desktop extention tagged to the end*
when used for a launch icon on your visual desktop



you now will have the icon
since the icons are already with the package I uploaded
it will look nice

you can drag it or copy it wherever you want

Code:

[Desktop Entry]
Encoding=UTF-8
Exec=firefox
Icon=/usr/share/pixmaps/firefox.png
Type=Application
Categories=X-Internet
Name=Firefox web browser
MimeType=text/html
X-KDE-StartupNotify=true



Joe
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WRCU2


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PostPosted: Wed 17 Jun 2009, 17:55    Post subject: Why not use the installed Hiawatha?
Subject description: HTTPD is already included in Slaxer_Pup
 

Hey Joe I thought to try Hiawatha since it is already a part of Puppy Linux and configured pretty good. There is just one issue I have regarding Puppy's Personal Blog and that is these errors in the error.log:

Wed 17 Jun 2009 16:59:22 +0800|127.0.0.1|/root/httpd/hiawatha/blog/smilies/cool.gif|access denied via filesystem
Wed 17 Jun 2009 16:59:22 +0800|127.0.0.1|/root/httpd/hiawatha/blog/smilies/cry.png|access denied via filesystem
Wed 17 Jun 2009 16:59:22 +0800|127.0.0.1|/root/httpd/hiawatha/blog/smilies/doh.gif|access denied via filesystem
Wed 17 Jun 2009 16:59:22 +0800|127.0.0.1|/root/httpd/hiawatha/blog/smilies/happy.gif|access denied via filesystem
Wed 17 Jun 2009 16:59:22 +0800|127.0.0.1|/root/httpd/hiawatha/blog/smilies/n_n.png|access denied via filesystem
Wed 17 Jun 2009 16:59:22 +0800|127.0.0.1|/root/httpd/hiawatha/blog/smilies/worried.gif|access denied via filesystem

I did a chmod 774 for the smilies directory but this had no affect. What is the problem that these images are denied by the filesystem? All other images are displayed with no problem. Thanks Wink
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