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DaveS


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PostPosted: Thu 16 Apr 2009, 09:01    Post subject:  

Ok, thanks. I will just run fixmenu............ Now if I could just get Ptray to display the correct icons...............................................
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PostPosted: Thu 16 Apr 2009, 21:02    Post subject:  

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If that was the truth he would drop his Pburn burning backend and upgrade it to libisofs, libburn, libisoburn, cdrskin, xorriso and save over 500kb compressed and have a more stable backend

I could be wrong, but I don't think he could "upgrade" pburn to use those libs. I think he would have to learn C and gtk programming, and write a completely new, proper compiled program. He is really a Bash+gtkdialog expert, so it is an enormous task you are suggesting.

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PostPosted: Thu 16 Apr 2009, 21:24    Post subject:  

disciple wrote:
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If that was the truth he would drop his Pburn burning backend and upgrade it to libisofs, libburn, libisoburn, cdrskin, xorriso and save over 500kb compressed and have a more stable backend

I could be wrong, but I don't think he could "upgrade" pburn to use those libs. I think he would have to learn C and gtk programming, and write a completely new, proper compiled program. He is really a Bash+gtkdialog expert, so it is an enormous task you are suggesting.


You can also run those via the console, C would be ideal, but Pburn could be adapted to use them, I know this because when I compiled bashburn it used the newer libs.
Also there are loads of documents on it, http://libburnia-project.org/
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PostPosted: Fri 17 Apr 2009, 02:10    Post subject:  

Oh, OK, you just want to use the command-line front-ends from libburnia. The website says cdrskin is cdrecord compatible, so it shouldn't require an upgrade from Zigbert - whoever releases Puppy would just have to decide to make the switch - now, I wonder about xorriso... You could always try using it instead.

I'm curious about this claim of greater stability - do you have personal experience?

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PostPosted: Fri 17 Apr 2009, 02:48    Post subject:  

disciple wrote:
Oh, OK, you just want to use the command-line front-ends from libburnia. The website says cdrskin is cdrecord compatible, so it shouldn't require an upgrade from Zigbert - whoever releases Puppy would just have to decide to make the switch - now, I wonder about xorriso... You could always try using it instead.

I'm curious about this claim of greater stability - do you have personal experience?


Well when I made the 512kb xfburn package http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?search_id=1877194735&t=38757 , I was getting emails from people like telling me of how many issues they had with pburn and that they were extremely happy with xfburn, I've been using it ever since I made up the package and its worked perfect every time, really I wish we had some C programmers to add some extra functions to xfburn, The size is excellent for your getting in the package, Really I would like to see puppy move over to xfce and rox, They do have a few nice applications, even a leafpad version called mousepad.lol strange

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PostPosted: Fri 17 Apr 2009, 03:50    Post subject:  

Yes, I like xfce. But I'd prefer to see it as a standard .sfs addon, as it takes up a huge amount of ram compared to JWM + Rox (Although I haven't tried 4.6 yet).
What xfce really need is a paint program - maybe they should adopt Nathural Smile

I think almost all problems with Pburn have been bugs in Pburn, rather than instability in the backends. Personally I'd also expect at least that many bugs in a program so complicated, that has developed so fast, with relatively little testing. (Unless you have quite a thorough programmer - but IIRC Zigbert has claimed he isn't really a programmer Sad )

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PostPosted: Sun 19 Apr 2009, 02:54    Post subject:  

Version 0.2 with Language support
Download in main post

Language support
Would you kindly translate these variables to your language and post them here.
Code:
LOC_SHUTDOWN="  Shutdown  "
LOC_REBOOT="  Reboot  "
LOC_LOCK="Lock screen"
LOC_PROMPT="Exit to prompt"
LOC_RESTART="Restart"



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PostPosted: Sun 19 Apr 2009, 03:06    Post subject:  

JERK for continuing this crap, why don't you and ecomoney join forces and really screw over as many people as you can, why not have a competition and the winner could get the biggest jerk of puppy linux award? !!!!
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PostPosted: Sun 19 Apr 2009, 07:48    Post subject:  

Maybe it's best to send your translations as a pm. It is no need to put yourself in an exposed position.


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PostPosted: Sun 19 Apr 2009, 07:55    Post subject:  

Looking good zigbert!

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PostPosted: Sun 19 Apr 2009, 08:26    Post subject:  

trapster wrote:
Looking good zigbert!

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Nope I keep them in Canada, I don't have any in Australia Smile
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aragon

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PostPosted: Sun 19 Apr 2009, 18:33    Post subject:  

lang = de_DE

Code:
LOC_SHUTDOWN="  Ausschalten  "
LOC_REBOOT="  PC neu starten  "
LOC_LOCK="Bildschirm sperren"
LOC_PROMPT="X-Sever schiessen"
LOC_RESTART="Neustart von"


sometimes it's better to leave the stealth-mode Wink

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PostPosted: Sun 19 Apr 2009, 20:52    Post subject:  

For single words surely Babelfish would suffice? It's not a user manual you are translating here.

Shutdown. Reboot. Lock screen. Exit to prompt. Restart.
Translates to:
Выключение. Старт снова. Зафиксируйте экран. Выйдите для того чтобы пробудить. Рестарт.

Which goes back to:
Disconnection. Start again. Fix screen. Leave in order to wake up. Restart.

Maybe not. Oh well, I did try.

Incidentally, taking that and doing the same again provides us with:
Separation. Start again. Screen of repairing. Leave in order to oversleep upward. Restart.
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PostPosted: Sun 19 Apr 2009, 23:48    Post subject:  

Cripes ttuuxxx, give it a rest already. I don't think he's trying to bother you, but, if he his, he's sure doing a good job! You're doing exactly what you think he wants you to do.

Instead of fighting over a shutdown script, leave zigbert to reinvent wheels in peace, while you go invent something new. And if he then reinvents those new things too, we'll all realize something, won't we?


Incidentally, a quote I'm fond of, and which is particularly useful to open source:
Somebody wrote:
Only fools compete to beat eachother. The wise compete to strengthen eachother.

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PostPosted: Mon 20 Apr 2009, 01:28    Post subject:  

Pizzasgood wrote:
Cripes ttuuxxx, give it a rest already. I don't think he's trying to bother you, but, if he his, he's sure doing a good job! You're doing exactly what you think he wants you to do.

Instead of fighting over a shutdown script, leave zigbert to reinvent wheels in peace, while you go invent something new. And if he then reinvents those new things too, we'll all realize something, won't we?


Incidentally, a quote I'm fond of, and which is particularly useful to open source:
Somebody wrote:
Only fools compete to beat eachother. The wise compete to strengthen eachother.


Thats why in all future Puppies 4.2+ releases will be anti-Zigbert
gone are the following
4.2 deep thought themes icons&GTK
- pburn
- pfind
- Pprocess
- Pmusic
- Pwidgets
they have been fully replaced(other than Pwidgets) and then some Wink with better software versions that shut down when closed, work better, and less resources due to the fact they actually shutdown properly Smile 2 can play Zigberts twisted game.
And lets not forget over 78% wanted it the way I re-invented the wheel of 4.2. So zigbert can Ppissoff. So stay tuned it only gets better.
lol ttuuxxx

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