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ttuuxxx


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PostPosted: Mon 13 Apr 2009, 08:29    Post subject:  

ecomoney wrote:
Thanks for fixing this up Ttuxxx Smile

Erm....how would I put the "bling" back in?

Pwidgets etc

Sorry...I want the best of both worlds...my "linux newbs" like it, I wont force it on anyone else Wink

P.S. This would make a great base for a puppy 4.2.1 if this were to happen, thank you for fixing the bugs


Hi you would be better to ask Zigbert, I'm not supporting Pwidgets Smile or any bling other than WM,icons,backgrounds Smile
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PostPosted: Mon 13 Apr 2009, 08:38    Post subject: Re: Alsa sound  

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PostPosted: Mon 13 Apr 2009, 08:40    Post subject: Re: Alsa sound  

Firefox wrote:
Hi Thuuxxx

I`m running your v2 version on a full hard drive install and think it`s really great, I like the rc3 icons.
I have found however just like many other recent pups that when I configure Alsa sound it finds my via82.xxx chips and loads up. However as it displays what it is doing, a list of missing sound modules comes up as it swiches to the next input screen. Gxine still works but it does NOT remember the setting and I have to configure it again every time I switch on.
Also I have noticed that when I play some mp3s from on line I have to wait for buffer refills 4 seconds soundplay and 4 seconds off - it really is a pain. I am on dialup but I`m sure I could hear continuos sounds before using some other player in the far past -maybe at a lesser quality. I like to listen to net radio broadcasts or their saved talk shows for later playback. One of them is www.kevinsmithshow.com a talkshow on paranormal ufo`s etc. I get the buffer problem when clicking on Latest show, top of left menu.
Is ther another player that can handle this? I noticed something about Javascript.


Thanks for all your time and effort.



I'm just wondering if this is a direct link to your show?


http://kevinsmithshow.com/program/today.swf
try opening that with gxine
or you can actually download it using puppy multithread downloader
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PostPosted: Mon 13 Apr 2009, 08:53    Post subject:  

ttuuxxx wrote:
ecomoney wrote:
Thanks for fixing this up Ttuxxx Smile

Erm....how would I put the "bling" back in?

Pwidgets etc

Sorry...I want the best of both worlds...my "linux newbs" like it, I wont force it on anyone else Wink

P.S. This would make a great base for a puppy 4.2.1 if this were to happen, thank you for fixing the bugs


Hi you would be better to ask Zigbert, I'm not supporting Pwidgets Smile or any bling other than WM,icons,backgrounds Smile
ttuuxxx


ttuuxxx, understand you not supporting bling, but of course you know how to put it back Wink

Just go to the first post in the Pwidgets thread... enough instructions there Smile

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PostPosted: Mon 13 Apr 2009, 09:47    Post subject:  

tunyawat wrote:
ttuuxxx - I found another bug.

The JWM configuration reports an error when I try to do something with the Tray Management (e.g. Number of Virtual Desktop).

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By the way, can you tell me how to remove the Ptray out from the original puppy? I used petbegone to remove it but it comes back on a remastered CD.


How I removed Ptray is that I downloaded from the software section and renamed it to tar.gz then extracted it and deleted the files, then I read the install method posted on the thread and deleted that Smile
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PostPosted: Mon 13 Apr 2009, 09:52    Post subject:  

ttuuxxx, understand you not supporting bling, but of course you know how to put it back Wink

Just go to the first post in the Pwidgets thread... enough instructions there Smile[/quote]

Ya I could put it back in blindfolded lol
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PostPosted: Mon 13 Apr 2009, 10:31    Post subject:  

Its ok Ttuxxxx, dont blindfold yourself on our account, someone has already produced a bugfixed 4.2 with the usability features people need (bling?). It has SMP (dual core processor) support also.

All thats needed is to regress the still buggy abiword back to how it was before you upgraded it (I can hear the cursing around the world) and it will make a top base for the next CE or even official version. Wink

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PostPosted: Mon 13 Apr 2009, 10:52    Post subject:  

ecomoney wrote:
Its ok Ttuxxxx, dont blindfold yourself on our account, someone has already produced a bugfixed 4.2 with the usability features people need (bling?). It has SMP (dual core processor) support also.

All thats needed is to regress the still buggy abiword back to how it was before you upgraded it (I can hear the cursing around the world) and it will make a top base for the next CE or even official version. Wink


yes I know of it, its using some of my fixes which is cool, But don't forget this version is built for no bling, 72% of almost 100 voted against bling. Which that version does not cater for.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?search_id=1175303056&t=39511

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PostPosted: Mon 13 Apr 2009, 11:14    Post subject:  

I don't think you can seriously recommend that smp version since it has no kernel source available. You can't compile nvidia drivers, vmware, or anything else kernel related.

I this version is pretty nice. no bling, and the choice to bring it back. also with the patches. Only a big shame you removed the JQ8flat-lite icons. Wink

those are my favourites.

But a big thanks for your work ttuxxx. Because I prefer this nobling version, and i'm using it.

I'm trying to get the JQ8flat-lite icons back. And i tried with a pet, but it wasn't applied 100% in the menu for example. Half of it was the JQ8flat-lite icons, and the rest the default icons. But perhaps i did something wrong or used the wrong JQ8flat-lite pet.


ecomoney wrote:
Its ok Ttuxxxx, dont blindfold yourself on our account, someone has already produced a bugfixed 4.2 with the usability features people need (bling?). It has SMP (dual core processor) support also.

All thats needed is to regress the still buggy abiword back to how it was before you upgraded it (I can hear the cursing around the world) and it will make a top base for the next CE or even official version. Wink
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PostPosted: Mon 13 Apr 2009, 15:01    Post subject:  

Hi ttuuxx,
Have you tried your vlc-0.8.6h-engv5.pet in Puppies 4.2-v2?
I reported my problem in the vlc post
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=31890&start=165

I would be very greatfull if you could sort out the problem as I really prefer vlc for my installs and have now got your Puppies 4.2-v2 installed and working well.

thanks

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PostPosted: Mon 13 Apr 2009, 18:34    Post subject:  

DC wrote:
Hi ttuuxx,
Have you tried your vlc-0.8.6h-engv5.pet in Puppies 4.2-v2?
I reported my problem in the vlc post
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=31890&start=165

I would be very greatfull if you could sort out the problem as I really prefer vlc for my installs and have now got your Puppies 4.2-v2 installed and working well.

thanks

DC


Hi DC

The next time I have 4.2 running I'll look at VLC Smile I also feel its a must have application, Its always been a bit touch and go with the skins2, The default theme is the one that works best I find because drag and drop works Smile
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PostPosted: Mon 13 Apr 2009, 19:29    Post subject:  

deniros wrote:
Only a big shame you removed the JQ8flat-lite icons. Wink


Funny you like those icons, I'm having a bit of trouble removing those icons from Dpup, Barry even included the mime's in a newer/default original location grrrr, I just can get around to getting used to them.
Just make sure that the icons have the same name as the other theme. located in /usr/local/lib/X11/themes
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PostPosted: Tue 14 Apr 2009, 09:31    Post subject:  

As I mentioned on the bling poll, it was a poll of current puppy users, not new puppy/linux users.....puppies aim. What it did prove is that there was a sizeable proportion of existing (not future) forum users that thought adding the extra useability features offered was worth the extra bloat.

I recognise there is a need for a bugfixed "no-bling" version 4.2, but there is also a need for a bugfixed "with-bling" version too.

Would you spare 5 minutes of your time to document what you did to take the "bling" out, so those that want/need it can have a bugfixed version too? No one is expecting you to "support" it, just to recognise that some people have different needs to yourself.

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PostPosted: Wed 15 Apr 2009, 05:10    Post subject:  

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As I mentioned on the bling poll, it was a poll of current puppy users, not new puppy/linux users.....puppies aim. What it did prove is that there was a sizeable proportion of existing (not future) forum users that thought adding the extra useability features offered was worth the extra bloat.


I really want to know what people think after including the blink in puppy 4.2. Do they still like it?

Personally, I don't like it. I think the strengths of Puppy over other distros are its size, speed, and various hardware support. ttuuxxx's Puppy is what I think it is the Puppy should be.
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PostPosted: Wed 15 Apr 2009, 20:34    Post subject:  

Ecomoney,

I agree with you that we need a bug fixed bling version. However, you cannot expect Tuxxx to do it and should not be hijacking this thread to request it. Tuxxx has made his views on the matter very clear and we should respect that.

I think there is a place for the no bling version and I congratulate Tuxxx in getting it done and, more importantly, swiftly adding the patches.

I am disappointed that Whodo has not released 4.2.1, i.e 4.2 plus patches, now that the situation has stabilised. I was expecting it as an Easter present! To expect newbies to download the standard Puppy, which by the freememapplet alone is obviously broken, and then go find patches on a forum they may not know about I find ridiculous. I just cannot point to the standard 4.2 in the Lin'N'Win instructions because of this. I would look a fool pointing to a bugged Puppy and it does Puppy no favours. I will, of course, be pointing to the no bling version in due course.

Perhaps you, Ecomoney, can start with the bling version, add the patches and remaster and then offer up to Eric for hosting. If not then start a thread to ask for someone to do it.

Now let this thread get back to discussing no bling.
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