Puppy Linux Discussion Forum

[MU]

Compared to x.org, the Freedesktop-Kdrive that Puppy uses is very small.
This version here has some extensions, so you can add shadows to Windows or set them transparent.
It also has additional xservers for different grafics-cards.
Try this small solution (2-3 MB), if Puppys inbuilt Kdrive is not sufficient for you, but if you do not need all the options from the huge x.org-Xserver (35 MB).

I did not include all files I compiled, as it works fine with some of Puppys files, too.

There is 1 Bug: Mozilla crashes when opening a Website with Flash, but this just happens with a color-depth of 16k, and might be grafics-card-dependant.

I added the Background-setter wmsetbg, as Puppys xli does not work with the composite-manager "xcompmgr", that draws the shadows.
I also modified Rarsas "set-Background" Roxapp to use wmsetbg.

You can access everything from the new menue-entry.

The new Kdrive will not destroy the existing one, as it resides in /usr/local/fdo.
My Menue backups "Xvesa" from Puppy to "Xvesa-Puppy", and then creates a symlink Xvesa pointing to it or to the FDO-Xvesa.

Download (2,2 MB extracted):
http://dotpups.de/dotpups/XServer/FDO-Kdrive/

Also try the "XServer-chooser", that adds a menue to select one of the additional XServers you will find here (you must install the one or more of your choice first):
http://dotpups.de/dotpups/XServer/FDO-Kdrive/Xservers/
The "Xchips" seems to work with several Graficscards, so try it as an alternative to XVesa, if there is no other one for you.

Some xservers like i810 also require a modification of /usr/X11R6/bin/xwin , see bombayrockers message below!
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If you are one of the unlucky guys without a working X:
HOWTO Install from the commandline (example: Xi810):
Download the necessary files for example in Windows:
http://dotpups.de/dotpups/XServer/FDO-Kdrive/FDO-Kdrive.pup
http://dotpups.de/dotpups/XServer/FDO-Kdrive/FDO-Choose-Xserver.pup
http://dotpups.de/dotpups/XServer/FDO-Kdrive/Xservers/Xi810.pup


Best will be to the folder, where pup001 resides, so you can access it inside puppy as /mnt/home/

In puppy, type these commands to install the new Kdrive:
mkdir /root/FDO
cp /mnt/home/FDO-Kdrive.pup /root/FDO/
cd /root/FDO
unzip FDO-Kdrive.pup
mv FILESYSTEM.tgz /
cd /
tar -xzvf FILESYSTEM.tgz
/usr/local/fdo/bin/usefdokdrive

Now the new XServer is installed, but it is XVesa.
If your Graficscard does not support XVesa, install Xi810.pup:

cp /mnt/home/Xi810.pup /root/FDO/
cd /root/FDO
unzip Xi810.pup
mv FILESYSTEM.tgz /
cd /
tar -xzvf FILESYSTEM.tgz


Now install the xserver-chooser:

cp /mnt/home/FDO-Choose-Xserver.pup /root/FDO/
cd /root/FDO
unzip FDO-Choose-Xserver.pup
mv FDO-Choose-Xserver.tgz /usr/local/
cd /usr/local
tar -xzvf FDO-Choose-Xserver.tgz

/usr/local/FDO-Choose-Xserver/Choose-FDO-Xserver

Mark

[pakt]

[MU]

Hm,but I do not understand, what could be done to fix that?
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I uploaded additional modules for several Graficscards, plus a grafical "Chooser".
It works in X and on the commandline.
Mark

[GuestToo]

the workaround is to enable xkbd support in xvesa

the fix is to compile gtk with the pango_dir patch

i think Puppy is using gtk-2.6.1

see here and here

[BarryK]

Mark,
Yes, you need to compile all the X servers with "xkbd extension" enabled.

[MU]

Ok, I will have to find out how to do it.
It compiled a /usr/local/fdo/lib/libXkbfile.so ,but that seems not to be what I need?
I will look closer tomorrow.
Today I tried to write a transparency-script for the rox-icons, but it does not work.
rox produces ugly artefacts, you can try it by setting an icon manually transparent, and then clicking on it.

Mark

[MU]

Now the documentation is available online and for Download.
I converted the man-pages to HTML:

http://dotpups.de/dotpups/XServer/FDO-Kdrive/Documentation/

[bombayrockers]

MU,

Great Work. thank you .

Here is some feed back -> Xvesa worked straight out with no problems. However xwin is not properly coded to handle Xi810 so I edited it. I have already posted a solution to Barry so an updated xwin would be available in 1.0.7.

Xi810 and Xvesa do not support the same options. Xvesa support -mode, where as in Xi810 and other we have to use the -screen option to set the resolution

-screen 800x600x24 does not work in fdo-Xi810 while it works in the puppy-Xi810.

Some tips for all users -
1. use the X server appropriate or your hardware to get best performance in terms of speed, resolution and fonts. (will post screenshots to show the difference)

2. set the resolution to 96 dpi (dots per inch). To find the screen resolution to get 96 dpi use the formula a=(x/96)*25.4

eg if I want 800x600 with 96 dpi then
a = (800/96)*25.4 = 211
b = (600/96)*25.4 = 158

now set the -screen to 211x158

3. use windows fonts if possible

[BarryK]

[BarryK]

Mark,
In XFree86 4.3.0, to turn on X keyboard extension, I had to edit
config/cf/kdrive.cf:

[MU]

I found another bug (tried Xvesa and Xchips):

When I open a Website using Flash in Mozilla ( like the videos here: http://rhinoweb.us/ ), Mozilla crashes:

The program 'Gecko' received an X Window System error.
This probably reflects a bug in the program.
The error was 'BadMatch'.
(Details: serial 95 error_code 8 request_code 129 minor_code 3)
(Note to programmers: normally, X errors are reported asynchronously;
that is, you will receive the error a while after causing it.
To debug your program, run it with the --sync command line
option to change this behavior. You can then get a meaningful
backtrace from your debugger if you break on the gdk_x_error() function.)

I have no idea how to fix that

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Barry, thanks, that will help a lot.
Unfortunately I will have to wait for my new computer in the middle of December, before I can compile on Mandrake again.
Or I try to patch Mandrakes image.gz to boot with my broken notebook, too.

Mark

[MU]

my compilation-problems were caused by wrong tools.
I reinstalled them with
./configure --prefix=/usr

Now I get
# autoconf --version
autoconf (GNU Autoconf) 2.59

# automake --version
automake (GNU automake) 1.7.4

# pkg-config --version
0.9.0

# libtool --version
ltmain.sh (GNU libtool) 1.5.10 (1.1220.2.130 2004/09/19 12:13:49)


Puppys automake (1.9) does not work.
I wondered on the newspage Barry wrote about a SIS-Module.
In CVS there are just some files, there is missing a lot (compared to i810 for example).
It also is not in the makefiles.

I also looked to the x.org -sources, but there the Kdrive is not included any more

Mark

[Guest]

The SiS module is a kernel framebuffer driver module.
It is part of the kernel, not X.
It is in PupGet package modules_fb-2.4.29

The Kdrive Xfbdev X server requires the screen to already be running in framebuffer mode.
This is achieved either at kernel boot by a parameter in the kernel boot params,
if I recall rightly, something like "vga=791" (some number, for the reqd mode), and vesa framebuffer module has to be built-in to the kernel.
Or, framebuffer modules can be loaded later, before X is started, like:
# modprobe sisfb mode=800x600 rate=72
After that, the Xfbdev server is executed.

[Guest]

That is BarryK not logged in, posting above.

[MU]

ok, I can compile with xkb by adding it as an option in the installscript: