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bark_bark_bark

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PostPosted: Wed 16 Jan 2013, 20:38    Post subject:  

Does JohnMurga even have decent php version to even run 3.0.11
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PostPosted: Wed 16 Jan 2013, 20:41    Post subject:  

bark_bark_bark wrote:
Does JohnMurga even have decent php version to even run 3.0.11


Only he knows. No one else that im aware of knows anything about the server config. And I'm not about to launch exploit scripts at the forum/server to find out what version he's using.

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PostPosted: Thu 17 Jan 2013, 01:09    Post subject:  

@Q5sys, I don't think anyone has suggested that we step beyond JohnMurga's work, currently.

I glean that this thread is discussing Forum improvements in a way as to view methods of moving the forum from its current release to a version that brings added functionality to forum use.

This includes ideas on personnel approaches, product information availability, ideas of methods of accomplishing build and testing, etc.

You and others are being very helpful with ideas and experiences to consider.

I view this thread as providing insights which will be useful should a forum change occurs by providing helpful info and hints to accomplish it in a safe and easy manner.

I not taking issue, but, I think that is, simply, all thats being shared thus far.

Any ideas that we bring to bear could be helpful to John.

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PostPosted: Sun 10 Mar 2013, 12:03    Post subject:  

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PostPosted: Sun 10 Mar 2013, 12:23    Post subject:  

simargl wrote:
It would be nice to have chat box feature like it's provided in Porteus http://forum.porteus.org/
Then, people could get answers more quickly...


Wouldn't it just make more sense to have a page that has an applet that can let people log into the official puppy chatroom on freenode?
I've seen several sites with php based irc clients that allow people to connect to an irc chatroom.

Since we already have a chat system in place I think it makes more sense to just use that one instead of creating another place for people to check.
Great idea for a 'chat' area.

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PostPosted: Tue 12 Mar 2013, 15:00    Post subject:  

Can we please get a lower time between searches for registered users?
I understand having a time buffer for guests to do repeated searches. If you accidentally put in a typo in your search query... you have to wait an annoyingly log time to be able to re-search

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PostPosted: Tue 12 Mar 2013, 21:29    Post subject:  

Well, people who have been around for a while, perhaps. I believe the limit was put in for spammers/bots, and those are less likely to stick around for a while. (We have had some spambots who have waited six months to a year, or more, before posting.)

I think I've run into the limit a few times while running the occasional search for older spam. Mr. Green

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PostPosted: Tue 12 Mar 2013, 21:44    Post subject:  

Makoto wrote:
Well, people who have been around for a while, perhaps. I believe the limit was put in for spammers/bots, and those are less likely to stick around for a while. (We have had some spambots who have waited six months to a year, or more, before posting.)

I think I've run into the limit a few times while running the occasional search for older spam. Mr. Green


why is a spam bot going to be using the search function? Even if it did... most spambots are automated and post rapidly. We dont have a post timer that Im aware of. why would we have a search timer?

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PostPosted: Tue 12 Mar 2013, 22:38    Post subject:  

I'm not sure why. Embarassed As far as I'm aware, though, the limits are primarily put into place on forums to discourage spammer/bot abuse. I'm guessing it's the ones that try to find a 'relevant post' for adding their spam replies.
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PostPosted: Tue 12 Mar 2013, 23:46    Post subject:  

I don't know why for sure. I get the impression it's the result of a general limit on how rapidly you can access the forum. Probably an anti-spam thing, but I could be wrong. In any case, it doesn't seem to be consistent. It seems to me that I can usually repeat searches pretty quickly. Only sometimes does the forum complain.
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PostPosted: Fri 20 Dec 2013, 18:09    Post subject:  

User watchdog was good enough to provide an easy and much-needed upgrade to SeaMonkey for Wary 5.xx and Puppy 4.31+ users:

Seamonkey2.23-en_US-w5.pet
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=90882

I hope this essential upgrade can be given a conspicuous placement here in the forum, as a sticky. But even more, perhaps a useful upgrade like this might justify starting a new category, Upgrades, which are, generally, sorely needed by the Puppy Project, since we don't have a rolling release version and since upgrades are, in effect, provided by (inconvenient) point release versions. Inconvenient to some users, anyway. How do I explain to any outside party, that I can't upgrade my browser because I am locked in to a static point release version of Linux? Needless to say, I can't expect much sympathy on the common issue of browser upgrades.

Opinion: I might also add that the browser is a significant and fundamental component of the Puppy OS, important enough to justify a separate forum category just for Browsers, not just a minor sub-category buried in Additional Software. I am reminded of the fundamental importance of the browser every time I have to upgrade Puppy to a later version because the browser is no longer supported, which is usually the primary, if not exclusive, reason for the upgrade. Conspicuous and easy access to browser-related forum activity would benefit both regular and, especially, new Puppy users.

Additional Software sub-fora related to pages of posts
Package Collections/Repos - 2 pages
REQUESTS - 20 pages
Browsers and Internet - 16 pages
Business - 2 pages
Compiling - 3 pages
Desktop - 9 pages
Documents - 9 pages
Drivers - 5 pages
Educational - 1 page
Engineering/Science/Simulation - 4 pages
Eye Candy - 6 pages
Filesystem - 5 pages
Games - 26 pages
Graphics - 8 pages
Multimedia - 19 pages
Network - 7 pages
Security/Privacy - 4 pages
System - 5 pages
Utilities - 13 pages
Virtualization - 3 pages
Unsorted - 167 pages

Excluding Unsorted, 5 sub-fora stand out in usage, in order of most pages of posts:
1 Games (26)
2 REQUESTS (20)
3 Multimedia (19)
4 Browsers and Internet (16)
5 Utilities (13)
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PostPosted: Fri 20 Dec 2013, 21:12    Post subject:  

Q5sys wrote:


Wouldn't it just make more sense to have a page that has an applet that can let people log into the official puppy chatroom on freenode?



Even easier, and less of the forum resources used would simply have a thread with this link in it:

http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=puppylinux

Drop in and say Hi....we speak Puppy there

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PostPosted: Fri 20 Dec 2013, 21:17    Post subject:  

tlchost wrote:
Q5sys wrote:


Wouldn't it just make more sense to have a page that has an applet that can let people log into the official puppy chatroom on freenode?



Even easier, and less of the forum resources used would simply have a thread with this link in it:

http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=puppylinux

Drop in and say Hi....we speak Puppy there

Thom


Doesnt require forum resources. It runs entirely in the browser on the users machine, the only hit (at most) would be a few mb download of the chat client. Which in most cases, isnt hosted on the forum anyway. that's downloaded from the chat vendors site (like with kiwiirc), so site is only hit with a line or two of extra HTML code.

nubc wrote:
Opinion: I might also add that the browser is a significant and fundamental component of the Puppy OS, important enough to justify a separate forum category just for Browsers, not just a minor sub-category buried in Additional Software. I am reminded of the fundamental importance of the browser every time I have to upgrade Puppy to a later version because the browser is no longer supported, which is usually the primary, if not exclusive, reason for the upgrade. Conspicuous and easy access to browser-related forum activity would benefit both regular and, especially, new Puppy users.


Good luck with that. About a year ago I asked for a 64bit sub-forum. After a month or so and a few PMs, John let me know that he didnt have time to make a sub-forum.

A 64bit forum and an ARM forum would be a good thing, but it requires Admin to make them. But apparently... he doesn't have the time.

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PostPosted: Tue 05 Aug 2014, 10:36    Post subject:  

What I really hate about some forums: You can't contact any support without beeing logged in! If you have an account, but Login is not working, you need to register again. But then you don't need the old account, except you want your username back. Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: Tue 05 Aug 2014, 11:00    Post subject:  

Usually there are just two reasons why a registered user can't log in:

1. He/She forgot the username/password
2. He/She has been removed for some reasons

If he/she just forgot the password he/she can request a new password - at least in this here forum.

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