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luther349

Joined: 01 Apr 2009
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PostPosted: Tue 30 Jun 2009, 00:07    Post subject:  

yes i was going to do one with more support but i also wanted to get the gma945 into dri mode so the eee has full video and light gaming ability on puppy. but i have ran into a wall with dri. even with the drm installed all i get is a black screen.

as for the guy asking on how to make a puplett its not that hard puppy has all the tools you need to make one. make your changes be it extra pets or patches or other changes and use the re-master tool to make a new iso. and post it hear in this fourm.

i never thought pupeee 4.2 would get such a large user base Smile form the few changes i did. but by time puppy 5x comes out i may not need to make another. support may be truly out of the box.
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sirAlex

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PostPosted: Wed 01 Jul 2009, 19:21    Post subject:  

eeepc 701
1) pupeee4.2 does not remember brightness level after reboot and brightness changing sometimes to max level during video playback
2) package manager in 4.2 does not fit to screen so it is very hard to delete packages.
3)touchpad has problems with sensitivity (vs ubuntu or win)
4)sometimes hangs up while saving session before power off.

there are no problems 1,2,4 in pupeee3
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jakfish

Joined: 18 Jul 2008
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PostPosted: Wed 01 Jul 2009, 20:15    Post subject:  

Search for xbacklight-1.1 and its thread. That'll take care of your backlight issue.

Search for pet uninstaller for eee (maybe called "petget package manager"). That'll show all your installed apps.

Haven't noticed touchpad problems with my eee 900. As for shutdown problems, make sure networks/wifi shut down BEFORE you turn off. That'll help. Shutdown still not perfect.

Jake
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luther349

Joined: 01 Apr 2009
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PostPosted: Wed 01 Jul 2009, 21:26    Post subject:  

sometimes the ssd does hang of saving but if you wait it out it does save. but the build was made to be installed.
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tempestuous

Joined: 10 Jun 2005
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PostPosted: Wed 01 Jul 2009, 23:00    Post subject:  

Shutdown fix -
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=238714#238714

xbacklight is here -
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=250629#250629
but read further down the thread; the asus_acpi control method might be better.

Touchpad - somewhere on the forum someone mentioned an xorg.conf adjustment which will fix touchpad sensitivity.
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luther349

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PostPosted: Sun 05 Jul 2009, 16:59    Post subject: new pupee  

hey im back at it

if anyone knoes where i can find a drm pet for 4.2 so i can get opengl working please point me to it.
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tempestuous

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PostPosted: Sun 05 Jul 2009, 19:56    Post subject:  

Puppy 4.x already contains the DRM kernel modules. For the Eee it's i915. Check with this command
Code:
modinfo i915


For 3D you also need the Xorg DRI libraries -
http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/puppylinux/pet_packages-4/xorg_xorg_full_dri-7.3.pet
But I warn that 3D with the Intel driver under Puppy's current Xorg7.3 hasn't met with success by the various people who have tried it.
I believe there's a proprietary Intel 3D driver which might work. I think MU posted information about it at one stage.

Apparently the opensource Intel driver is much improved in Xorg 7.4. There is some discussion on the Developer Blog about this.
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luther349

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PostPosted: Mon 06 Jul 2009, 03:06    Post subject:  

yes all i get is a black screen with 7.3 and 7.4 wont go into dri at all. i tried loading libdrm using rmmod drm and it said not found. trust me i tryed many guides on this matter nothing works. best i can do is lock x up. even installing a newer intel driver and drm did not work. getting puppy into 3d is just a pain. why they dont include it as a recompiled add on is just dumb. almost every media player uses it for better video modes.

why i said i hit a wall on another release being i want this feature to get the eee gma 945 into full video acell. and even light gaming lol but i never got anything other then anarchy and runscape to run playable.

but i guess ill play with 7.4 more and see if i can get anywhere with that if 7.3 is broken byond patching.
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tempestuous

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PostPosted: Mon 06 Jul 2009, 03:45    Post subject:  

luther349 wrote:
getting puppy into 3d is just a pain.

Only with certain graphics devices/Xorg drivers, such as the infamous Intel GMA series. That's Intel's fault, not the fault of Puppy. Do a Google search and you will see that all other Linux distros are struggling with the same problem.

But with the nVIDIA proprietary driver, 3D is a breeze, and very reliable.

luther349 wrote:
i tried loading libdrm using rmmod drm and it said not found.

I think you may be confusing an Xorg library with a kernel module.
Puppy 4.1/4.2 definitely contains the drm module, and the i915 module depends on it. So both modules will load when you do this
Code:
modprobe i915

But strictly speaking, that's not necessary because when DRI is activated in xorg.conf, with this line -
Code:
Load "dri"

those two modules should be automatically loaded by the DRI/DRM libraries.
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luther349

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PostPosted: Mon 06 Jul 2009, 22:17    Post subject:  

ubuntu supports the gma just fine. but i believe its 7.4.its 3d acell is dirt slow tho even for a gma.
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tempestuous

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PostPosted: Tue 07 Jul 2009, 00:14    Post subject:  

luther349 wrote:
ubuntu supports the gma just fine.
its 3d acell is dirt slow tho even for a gma.

Puppy can do just as well.
tombh explained how to set up Intel 3D driver to work with Compiz-Fusion here -
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=32242

aarf confirmed that Compiz-Fusion (and therefore Intel 3D) is working with his Eee 701 here -
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=250664#250664

Now that I have another look at tombh's HOWTO, I see some interesting configuration lines he added to the "Server Layout" section of his xorg.conf file -
Code:
Option "XAANoOffscreenPixmaps" "true"
Option "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "True"

This might be the magic bullet.
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ColinB

Joined: 03 May 2008
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PostPosted: Wed 08 Jul 2009, 15:49    Post subject:  

sirAlex wrote:
eeepc 701

2) package manager in 4.2 does not fit to screen so it is very hard to delete packages.


Find the solution here courtesy of Gyro.

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?search_id=1960241100&t=36824
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ColinB

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PostPosted: Wed 08 Jul 2009, 17:17    Post subject:  

I installed pupeee 4.2 to SD card on my 701(4G) this week and everything so far is great. Wifi, sound etc working fine. Very Happy
Now, can anyone tell me the best version of wine to install with 4.2?
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luther349

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PostPosted: Wed 08 Jul 2009, 17:35    Post subject:  

tryed that guide it did get the intel into dri but x crashes everytime i type glxinfo or glxgears. meaning wile it did work on getting 3d to start its very unstable(not working). i just dont think theirs anything i can do with xorg 7.3.

i beleve they are using 7.4.

i did link the new chipset wifi driver for the 701sd and other new model eeepc. for those needing it
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tempestuous

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PostPosted: Thu 09 Jul 2009, 22:49    Post subject:  

luther349
Forum member Patriot has just compiled upgraded Intel DRM kernel modules here -
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=44388
For the Puppy 4.1/4.2 kernels you need intel-via-agpdrm-upd-2.6.25.16-i486.pet

I should add that the Intel 3D successes I pointed out earlier apply only to the 700-series Eee models.
I have been told (but can't confirm) that the more recent Eee models have an updated Intel graphics chip, and it seems that these newer devices are the really problematic ones.
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