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dalmemail · Joined: 22 Apr 2014 Posts: 6

It depends.....
about 75-150-170 MHZ

Colonel Panic · Joined: 16 Sep 2006 Posts: 1502

Dalmemail;

In 2014 that's very old, and you're doing well if you can still use them at all.

I'd say go ahead and use Turbo Extreme on your computers, at least until someone else knows of something better to put on them (I don't).

Best wishes,

CP .

inoxidabile · Joined: 13 Sep 2008 Posts: 148

tommy · Joined: 04 Oct 2005 Posts: 93 Location: Italy

dalmemail, I never succeeded in booting Puppy in 16MB ram PCs. The only one who booted in 16MB was onebone that is a non-graphical puppy (no X server). If you try onebone, download the 'elinks' version, so you will be able to surf internet with elinks text web browser.

If you want X server, I think the best choice is Barebones 2.01r2: read my posts here and here. To install Puppy without wasting CDs, read here.

Turbopup is my preferred puppy in PCs with at least 128MB ram, I wouldn't use it in your PCs.

If you don't really need 30 PCs, you can pick up some RAM sticks from unneeded PCs and insert it in empty ram slots of another PC (I think pentium I motherboards need Edo Ram 72 pin, they need to be inserted in couples of 2) so to increase Ram to at least 32MB. Be sure to format your hard disc in ext2 and add a swap partition of at least 128MB (I hope you know how to use fdisk).

Kolibri is cute, but not so useful and lacks a real web browser. If you have 2 floppies, try Blueflops instead: a console only Linux distribution featuring 2.6.18 kernel, ethernet and serial modem ppp support, usb pendrive support, GRAPHICAL and text web browser. It can also boot from cd (download and burn the 'eltorito' iso) and hard disk using grub (kernel memdisk ; initrd blueflops-2.0.15.ElTorito-2.88-boot.img - rename it in shorter blueflops.img !).

Good luck! Wink

Colonel Panic · Joined: 16 Sep 2006 Posts: 1502

Yes, or there's Basic Linux, which also runs off 2 floppies or a DOS partition on a hard drive. I remember running it on a Pentium 100, browsing the Web using Opera 5, and Blackbox for the window manager; happy days Smile

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There are two different versions of Basic, BL2 and BL3;

http://mujweb.cz/basiclinux2/

http://distro.ibiblio.org/baslinux/

I had 32 MB of RAM to run it in though. I don't know how it'd be in 16 MB but it should be OK.

Failing that, you could set it up as a DOS computer, using either MS-DOS or FreeDOS and surf the Web in Arachne. I did that on a 486 (8 MB of RAM) at the start of the noughties.

Or; there used to be a floppy based demo of an operating system called QNX, which was absolutely amazing. It could write using a basic text editor, play a simple game (Tower of Hanoi if I remember rightly), and surf the net using dialup (and post on forums). All from one 1.44 MB floppy.

The only downside it had was that I never found a way to save the settings, so I had to reconfigure the Internet connection on it every time I used it.

dalmemail · Joined: 22 Apr 2014 Posts: 6

KolibriOS is a good system but Turbopup have got support and software.
THANKS

Shep · Joined: 08 Nov 2008 Posts: 851 Location: GIRT-BY-SEA

cthisbear · Joined: 29 Jan 2006 Posts: 3399 Location: Sydney Australia

Try my cheat frugal method dalmemail.

Just copy the main file onto the hard drive in lower case.

It will extract like this >> pup_420xtreme.sfs

Works like a cheap ram upgrade.

Boot Puppy cd...
hopefully Turbopup boots from the >> sfs file on the hard drive

faster than from cd.

Exclusive to Puppy since Puppy 2.02.

Costs you nothing....try this method.

Chris.

saintless · Joined: 11 Jun 2011 Posts: 2226 Location: Bulgaria

Actually I'm running Turbopup quite well on PIII - 600Mhz, 128 RAM, 512 MB SWAP partition.
Works fast as long as you don't use ram hungry applications. Default Seamonkey is old version and can't open some sites but it is still useful for such old hardware. I even can boot Turbopup from USB on this machine using Plop boot floppy disk.
http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager/download.html
One disadvantage is the USB is mounted read-only and you can't use save file on it but you can have save file on the hard drive.

But with Processor 50-175 Mhz and 16-24 Ram I think it will be a pain for the user to use Turbopup even if it boots. I doubt that BTW.

As much as I hate to admit this but based on my experience with old hardware such yours, dalmemail, Windows 95 (maybe even 98 ) will work much better than any puppy available.

This does not mean you should not try, but I would look here instead Turbopup:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=48214

Toni

inoxidabile · Joined: 13 Sep 2008 Posts: 148

I agree with cthisbear...
But, in my opinion, the points are more or less as said by Shep:
- what is the target in terms of user friendly graphical interface for user
- what are the uses (and then the softwares) he wants.
If anyone would like to surf on web, then a lot of sites (maybe the main parts... ) need of graphical support and then that hw would be useless in every case.
If the target is only to write some text, with few extra needs, maybe some text editor from terminal could be enough... Smile