Turbopup Xtreme v1.0 - The fastest dog on Earth

[greengeek]

Where can I download Turbopup without 'download.exe'?

Theres a link on this post:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 783#476783
that takes you to this download site:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/6nmy5c

The md5 link and readme link seem dead.

EDIT : Oh yes, I see what you mean - somethings wrong with that link. Ally posted another link as follows:
http://archive.org/details/Puppy_Linux_Turbopup
(I'm not quite sure how to drive archive.org but there seem to be isos in the left hand pane...)

[ally]

just click https and it will show all the ISOs

non ISO files will be in the main body of a page

[sindi]

archive.org and sendspace (if it even works) appear to be the only remaining working links to turbopup files. [/list]

[greengeek]

archive.org and sendspace (if it even works) appear to be the only remaining working links to turbopup files.

It's a shame really because this is an astounding puppy. A little difficult to understand at first, and even more difficult to customise it the way other puppies can, but the speed tradeoff seems worth it and it still has what I consider to be the best browser setup - straight out of the box it allows me to view youtube vids, and has flashblock fully activated (and has heaps of rightclick options to tailor flashblock etc too).

I'm guessing smokey probably has a copy on his server too but I don't know if that would include the earlier versions that ally pinpointed on archive org (which I was trying to find here)

@ally : thanks for the links and thanks for that excellent tip of clicking on the HTTPS link! Finally I understand how to use that site!

Turbopup versions available for download here:
https://ia801009.us.archive.org/4/items ... _Turbopup/


NOTE : As he progressed from the early versions of Turbopup through to the final one (v 1.0) Synth appears to have progressively stripped out lots of code, and more tightly customised the iso, so that some users may be more comfortable using the earlier versions.

[sindi]

Downloaded, extracted vmlinuz, initrd.gz and the sfs file to a partition in /hda1 (fat32)

Booted frugal perfectly and very quickly with loadlin (which puppy 5's won't do).

Politely asked whether to use pup_save.2fs from 4.1.2 and update it (N).

Chose Xorg. Network and sound wizards worked easily. (Dell D600 from 2003).

Let me change scaling_min_freq with acpi-cpufreq to run at full speed all the time
(which puppy 5's won't do). modprobe acip-cpufreq and echo 1600000 > /sys/pertinent file/

free - used minus cached memory 35M, of which 5M is X and jwm.
(4.1.2-based pulp linux uses about 65M, and when I stop a lot of unused processes
in 4.3.1 such as cupsd and blinky, it is still about 75M. Pulp favors gtk1).

you2pup is as expected no longer working due to youtube's frequent changes.
The standalone youtube-dl (python incorporated in it) or movgrab should work instead.

I can add lynx and mplayer (uses less memory than xine) and upgrade glibc so as
to use opera 12.16.

e3pi console text editor is included (but not on the menu).
blinky can be started manually. freememapplet - gives message about usage kill ???

I don't see fbcon (for framebuffer console) and hope the kernel supports it so I can
hopefully borrow the required modules from puppy 4.3.1 with the same kernel.
This allows running without X, with much more text on the screen.

Is there some way to point puppy 4.1.2 and 4.2.0 at differently named save files
with loadlin (or lilo, or grub) rather than choosing while it is booting? I can't see
anything on the screen while booting with framebuffer, until halfway through the boot
process, so if there are two pup_save*.2fs files it stalls waiting for me to choose
blindly. (Same problem with 4.3.1 and 4.3.2 pupsave.2fs but they don't try to update
from 4.2 or 4.1 so ONE 4.3 can coexist with ONE 4.2 or 4.1 with save files).

[greengeek]

Is there some way to point puppy 4.1.2 and 4.2.0 at differently named save files with loadlin (or lilo, or grub) rather than choosing while it is booting?

Not sure but possibly by using the psubdir parameter?

[partsman]

Hi all
Just a little FYI Akita was based ot turbo pup
Akita will boot just as fast and has alot of customizations !
It might be worth a look

[Dewbie]

partsman wrote:

Hi all
Just a little FYI Akita was based ot turbo pup

Turbopup evolved into Puplite, followed by Akita...

[greengeek]

Some of the alpha versions of Turbopup are less radical than Turbopup Xtreme v1.0 (yet still optimised for speed) so I have started a thread for testing those:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=91591

[sindi]

See the thread on Puppy Linux Windows Installer v. 1.1 released.
There is a way to package puppy to self-install in Windows, as an .exe.
Premade .exe's for 511, 520, 525 and 550 linuxes, and Turbopup 420 (in Spanish?)
http://ubuntuone.com/637eWS83J8cuW1402jXHy - or follow the link from the
installer discussion. The download link works.

I plan to try it on a computer which boots only from hard drive or network
(or proprietary CD-ROM or floppy drive). People usually remove the hard drive
and install files to it in some other computer (not simple with Windows so I
don't want to trash what came with it). Then on a Win98 computer with 64MB RAM.

[sindi]

Tried booting turbopup with loadlin on a 133Mhz 1997 laptop,
upgraded to RAM 64MB and HD 3GB.

Since there is no CD boot or USB, I transferred the files
there via network (using Basiclinux 3.5 from two floppy disks).
Kernels 2.2 and 2.4 worked with BL. Windows 98 worked.

Kernel panic not syncing (after setting up layered file system).

I think this means my hardware is not supported. I got the same
error message with wary 5.5 on a 400MHz or 900MHz laptop.

What puppy versions would work in 64MB RAM on a PI (possibly
without X, and full install)? Which have 2.4 kernel?
Puppy 4.1.2 worked on a 233MHz Thinkpad but that is P55C and this
is probably P54C. I want to use it as a internet radio with mplayer
compiled for P54C.

[Dewbie]

sindi wrote:

What puppy versions...have 2.4 kernel?

Some of these do.
(Read the top post over here.)

[James C]

To add to Dewbie's post.....

Puppy 1.09 (k-2.4.27) and earlier have a 2.4 kernel. Puppy 2.00 moved to k-2.6.16.7.

Dewbie's first link looks to have most of the earlier versions.
HTH.

[sindi]

I tried to transfer the 100MB sfs file via network and it kept messing up (screen full of messages about superblocks) at about 29MB. Apparently the one time I got it all, it was also no good (I checked md5sum). 64MB RAM might be a problem (and 96MB swapfile). Maybe something in the file?

I tried burning the iso to CD but my usual computer stopped recognizing its CD-ROM drive again.

A 29MB barebones 2.10 transferred but does not boot with loadlin. Neither it nor 1.09 can find its sfs file. No CD boot possible. I would prefer turbopup anyway.

How have other people installed puppy without USB or bootable CD?

This was supposed to be an internet radio. I got the original radio working by noting that the network port on the wireless router was bad and using wifi instead.

The crystal cs4232 sound on the 133MHz Omnibook is so far unusabl e (with OSS in Basiclinux installed from 2 floppies) but worked with Win95 before the drive died. How can I determine IRQ, dma, and io without reinstalling Win95? I can download programs under 30mb or run from floppy.

[greengeek]

How have other people installed puppy without USB or bootable CD?.

One method is to swap the HDD to another machine which has a working CD drive and load puppy to the HDD then swap the HDD back to the original machine.

With regard to getting puppies to work in low spec systems it might be worth sending a PM to forum member 'tommy'. I have seen several very good posts from him detailing useful info. (I did make a list of his relevant posts but can't find it at the moment...)

[sindi]

On my third attempt I transferred the sfs file via a CD (using an older linux).
First - wireless transfer (300KB/sec) produced a corrupted file.
Second - wired transfer (750KB/sec) produced error messages as 29MB.
Third - fixed my 'no hdc' problem with mknod /dev/hdc. I have no idea why the computer lost /dev/hdc in two versions of puppy linux. /dev/hdc does not exist despite dmesg finding hdc. Then bulrned turbopup to CD.

Total memory 60.5MB. Free memory 1.5MB.
I added 96MB swap. Would need full install.

Xvesea 800x600x16 worked perfectly.

The wizard could not find smc, pcnet, or orinoco pcmcia cards nor when I manually inserted the modules (with network wizard or directly with modprobe) did it detect any interfaces. Basiclinux works fine with all the cards. Anyone know the fix for Puppy 4.2?

I spent hours trying to make OSS sound work in Basiclinux. ALSA sound (legacy, cs4232) worked perfectly with Turbopup. I found nothing relevant in /etc/modules.conf (where it says things get appended). Where are the ioport and irq and dma settings stored for legacy cards? [/quote]

[sindi]

This was a uplicate posting. I use lynx because the older versions of graphical browsers won't let me go to specific
pages. (Links browser won't even let me log in). I can't find a way to delete duplicate postings in lynx.

[sindi]

I rebooted and it took 15 min to set up the layered file system. 57MB RAM used of which 37MB is now cache, or 20MB actually used (including by top).

Sound is very stable but was muted. Zmixer fixed that. Alsamixer I think requires an up arrow to increase volume and my up arrow is not working. Or it may be what keeps loading up to 8 copies at a time of Mtpaint.

(In Basiclinux OSS sound stops working after a while with DRQ/IRQ error and I have to unplug power and battery and reboot to get it back).

pccardctl ident cannot find any cards in either pcmcia slot. pccardctl ls shows that both slots have bridges. This keeps it from being a radio.

Lots of people had trouble with pcmcia cards in puppy. I will solve this.

[sindi]

Puppy 1.07 and 2.17 won't boot for me with loadlin. They can't find their sfs files despite looking in the right partitions. I burned a CD of 1.07 and am using it on another computer with CD boot and it has kernel 2.4 and the older pcmcia setup similar to the one from 1999 that works with my Omnibook.

I attempted to install Smart Boot Manager to the MBR so as to boot the Omnibook from CD. (Usually it installs to floppy disk but I have swappable floppy or cd drives). It requires cwsdpmi.exe. There are instructions for installing to hard drive to be tried earlier in the day.

Any other ideas of how to boot with loadlin or another boot manager?
Maybe they would find their sfs files on the CD?

1.07 (with three dialup modem programs) is supposedly the last puppy to use OSS (which did not work so well in Basiclinux for sound). 1.09 has ALSA sound. Thanks to whoever collected and preserved these older versions.

[sindi]

Puppy 1 and 2 can't find their sfs files with loadlin so I found a way to boot from CD on a computer 1;2c1;2c
that boots only from FD or HD but has a CD-ROM drive, swappable with floppy drive.

I installed "smart boot manager", to the hard drive. Normally I would install to floppy drive but
you can't have floppy and cd in at the same time.

Search on sbminst linux, download smbinst for linux and the tgz package of help files.
Read index.html (or the Czech or Chinese versions if preferred). I put this all in /sbm.

To install to MBR of hda in English with backup.
sbm -t us -d /dev/hda -b sbm-bak.dat

The last part lets you uninstall it from MBR and restore original MBR.
If using lilo, put lilo in hdax not hda.

This computer needs the power plug pulled to behave properly on next boot - otherwise sound does not
work and also boot with sbm fails (isolinux: Disk erro 0c, AX=42C8, drive E0).

Power on, eventually you get a boot menu. Arrow down to CD-ROM, Enter.

Puppy 1.07 booted giving me five choices (including no APCI, no save file).

I chose keyboard and Xvesa, changed from 640 to 480.

With ROX-filer, 60MB RAM used, 34MB cached. Without ROX 59MB used. About 25MB usage, on first boot.
It made a 256MB pup001 in hda1 ? mounted on /root (for saving to). Turbopup used slightly less RAM
after setting up a layered file system. I will experiment with lilo and maybe full install.

Wired network setup wizard worked perfectly.

I found no sound setup. I manually inserted all the modules that had worked in Basiclinux since this
is also OSS sound. It worked.

There are two mixers to adjust this faint sound. With ALSA, sound was by default set to zero but
here it is mid-range. I can use my P54C mplayer after upgrading glibc (with a deb package, to 2.11.3
or at least 2.3.6). Or probably gxine would work but takes more memory and takes longer to start up.

1.07 is the last version with OSS, 1.09 last version with 2.4 kernel (which uses the older pcmcia,
and .o.gz modules instead of .ko). Older pcmcia worked for me in Basiclinux with 2.4 kernel.

No small browser included so I ssh'ed to sdf.org to use lynx.
Had to first rxvt -fg white -bg black to be able to view it properly.