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Turbopup Xtreme v1.0 - The fastest dog on Earth
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greengeek

Joined: 20 Jul 2010
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PostPosted: Sat 25 Jan 2014, 05:06    Post subject: Re: Download problem Turbopup
Subject description: Sendspace wants me to download download.exe
 

sindi wrote:
Where can I download Turbopup without 'download.exe'?
Theres a link on this post:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=476783#476783
that takes you to this download site:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/6nmy5c

The md5 link and readme link seem dead.

EDIT : Oh yes, I see what you mean - somethings wrong with that link. Ally posted another link as follows:
http://archive.org/details/Puppy_Linux_Turbopup
(I'm not quite sure how to drive archive.org but there seem to be isos in the left hand pane...)
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ally


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PostPosted: Sat 25 Jan 2014, 07:09    Post subject:  

just click https and it will show all the ISOs

non ISO files will be in the main body of a page

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sindi

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PostPosted: Sat 25 Jan 2014, 12:30    Post subject: archive.org link for turbopup works  

archive.org and sendspace (if it even works) appear to be the only remaining working links to turbopup files. [/list]
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greengeek

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PostPosted: Sat 25 Jan 2014, 14:55    Post subject: Re: archive.org link for turbopup works  

sindi wrote:
archive.org and sendspace (if it even works) appear to be the only remaining working links to turbopup files.

It's a shame really because this is an astounding puppy. A little difficult to understand at first, and even more difficult to customise it the way other puppies can, but the speed tradeoff seems worth it and it still has what I consider to be the best browser setup - straight out of the box it allows me to view youtube vids, and has flashblock fully activated (and has heaps of rightclick options to tailor flashblock etc too).

I'm guessing smokey probably has a copy on his server too but I don't know if that would include the earlier versions that ally pinpointed on archive org (which I was trying to find here)

@ally : thanks for the links and thanks for that excellent tip of clicking on the HTTPS link! Finally I understand how to use that site! Smile

Turbopup versions available for download here:
https://ia801009.us.archive.org/4/items/Puppy_Linux_Turbopup/


NOTE : As he progressed from the early versions of Turbopup through to the final one (v 1.0) Synth appears to have progressively stripped out lots of code, and more tightly customised the iso, so that some users may be more comfortable using the earlier versions.
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sindi

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PostPosted: Sat 25 Jan 2014, 15:56    Post subject: Turbopup works beautifully except for sharing save files  

Downloaded, extracted vmlinuz, initrd.gz and the sfs file to a partition in /hda1 (fat32)

Booted frugal perfectly and very quickly with loadlin (which puppy 5's won't do).

Politely asked whether to use pup_save.2fs from 4.1.2 and update it (N).

Chose Xorg. Network and sound wizards worked easily. (Dell D600 from 2003).

Let me change scaling_min_freq with acpi-cpufreq to run at full speed all the time
(which puppy 5's won't do). modprobe acip-cpufreq and echo 1600000 > /sys/pertinent file/

free - used minus cached memory 35M, of which 5M is X and jwm.
(4.1.2-based pulp linux uses about 65M, and when I stop a lot of unused processes
in 4.3.1 such as cupsd and blinky, it is still about 75M. Pulp favors gtk1).

you2pup is as expected no longer working due to youtube's frequent changes.
The standalone youtube-dl (python incorporated in it) or movgrab should work instead.

I can add lynx and mplayer (uses less memory than xine) and upgrade glibc so as
to use opera 12.16.

e3pi console text editor is included (but not on the menu).
blinky can be started manually. freememapplet - gives message about usage kill ???

I don't see fbcon (for framebuffer console) and hope the kernel supports it so I can
hopefully borrow the required modules from puppy 4.3.1 with the same kernel.
This allows running without X, with much more text on the screen.

Is there some way to point puppy 4.1.2 and 4.2.0 at differently named save files
with loadlin (or lilo, or grub) rather than choosing while it is booting? I can't see
anything on the screen while booting with framebuffer, until halfway through the boot
process, so if there are two pup_save*.2fs files it stalls waiting for me to choose
blindly. (Same problem with 4.3.1 and 4.3.2 pupsave.2fs but they don't try to update
from 4.2 or 4.1 so ONE 4.3 can coexist with ONE 4.2 or 4.1 with save files).
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greengeek

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PostPosted: Sat 25 Jan 2014, 17:05    Post subject: Re: Turbopup works beautifully except for sharing save files  

sindi wrote:
Is there some way to point puppy 4.1.2 and 4.2.0 at differently named save files with loadlin (or lilo, or grub) rather than choosing while it is booting?

Not sure but possibly by using the psubdir parameter?
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partsman

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PostPosted: Sat 25 Jan 2014, 19:53    Post subject:  

Hi all Smile
Just a little FYI Akita was based ot turbo pup Wink
Akita will boot just as fast and has alot of customizations !
It might be worth a look Wink

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Dewbie

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PostPosted: Sat 25 Jan 2014, 20:12    Post subject:  

partsman wrote:
Quote:
Hi all Smile
Just a little FYI Akita was based ot turbo pup

Turbopup evolved into Puplite, followed by Akita...
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greengeek

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PostPosted: Sun 26 Jan 2014, 14:56    Post subject:  

Some of the alpha versions of Turbopup are less radical than Turbopup Xtreme v1.0 (yet still optimised for speed) so I have started a thread for testing those:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=91591
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sindi

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PostPosted: Mon 27 Jan 2014, 23:34    Post subject: Turbopup Xtreme Windows Installer  

See the thread on Puppy Linux Windows Installer v. 1.1 released.
There is a way to package puppy to self-install in Windows, as an .exe.
Premade .exe's for 511, 520, 525 and 550 linuxes, and Turbopup 420 (in Spanish?)
http://ubuntuone.com/637eWS83J8cuW1402jXHy - or follow the link from the
installer discussion. The download link works.

I plan to try it on a computer which boots only from hard drive or network
(or proprietary CD-ROM or floppy drive). People usually remove the hard drive
and install files to it in some other computer (not simple with Windows so I
don't want to trash what came with it). Then on a Win98 computer with 64MB RAM.
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sindi

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PostPosted: Tue 28 Jan 2014, 18:17    Post subject: turbopup kernel panic on PI 133Mhz  

Tried booting turbopup with loadlin on a 133Mhz 1997 laptop,
upgraded to RAM 64MB and HD 3GB.

Since there is no CD boot or USB, I transferred the files
there via network (using Basiclinux 3.5 from two floppy disks).
Kernels 2.2 and 2.4 worked with BL. Windows 98 worked.

Kernel panic not syncing (after setting up layered file system).

I think this means my hardware is not supported. I got the same
error message with wary 5.5 on a 400MHz or 900MHz laptop.

What puppy versions would work in 64MB RAM on a PI (possibly
without X, and full install)? Which have 2.4 kernel?
Puppy 4.1.2 worked on a 233MHz Thinkpad but that is P55C and this
is probably P54C. I want to use it as a internet radio with mplayer
compiled for P54C.
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Dewbie

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PostPosted: Wed 29 Jan 2014, 00:20    Post subject:  

sindi wrote:
Quote:
What puppy versions...have 2.4 kernel?

Some of these do.
(Read the top post over here.)
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James C


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PostPosted: Wed 29 Jan 2014, 01:16    Post subject:  

To add to Dewbie's post.....

Puppy 1.09 (k-2.4.27) and earlier have a 2.4 kernel. Puppy 2.00 moved to k-2.6.16.7.

Dewbie's first link looks to have most of the earlier versions.
HTH.
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sindi

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PostPosted: Wed 29 Jan 2014, 01:19    Post subject: Turbopup sfs corrupted causing kernel panic  

I tried to transfer the 100MB sfs file via network and it kept messing up (screen full of messages about superblocks) at about 29MB. Apparently the one time I got it all, it was also no good (I checked md5sum). 64MB RAM might be a problem (and 96MB swapfile). Maybe something in the file?

I tried burning the iso to CD but my usual computer stopped recognizing its CD-ROM drive again.

A 29MB barebones 2.10 transferred but does not boot with loadlin. Neither it nor 1.09 can find its sfs file. No CD boot possible. I would prefer turbopup anyway.

How have other people installed puppy without USB or bootable CD?

This was supposed to be an internet radio. I got the original radio working by noting that the network port on the wireless router was bad and using wifi instead.

The crystal cs4232 sound on the 133MHz Omnibook is so far unusabl e (with OSS in Basiclinux installed from 2 floppies) but worked with Win95 before the drive died. How can I determine IRQ, dma, and io without reinstalling Win95? I can download programs under 30mb or run from floppy.
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PostPosted: Wed 29 Jan 2014, 04:38    Post subject: Re: Turbopup sfs corrupted causing kernel panic  

sindi wrote:
How have other people installed puppy without USB or bootable CD?.

One method is to swap the HDD to another machine which has a working CD drive and load puppy to the HDD then swap the HDD back to the original machine.

With regard to getting puppies to work in low spec systems it might be worth sending a PM to forum member 'tommy'. I have seen several very good posts from him detailing useful info. (I did make a list of his relevant posts but can't find it at the moment...)
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